and i do sit under my fig tree during the summer.. but i'm missing vine. what's good seedless table grape for NC? it's hot and humid here. i want something sweet, but not too sweet that it will make me thirsty. something refreshing. 

When we lived in humid southeastern PA , for us a grape called Mars was the best at resisting disease and was less attacked by Japanese beetles.
I think we got it from Fedco in Maine.

I don't know much about grapes, but you could try another vine fruit- kiwis. They are pretty hardy and produce a lot of fruit.

I remember Mars as seedless , but I could be remembering wrong .
Given how well it did in our case compared to the others we were growing , seedless wouldn't have mattered.
Worth checking out anyway . There certainly may be other varieties out now that could be much better. 
We planted them back in the early 90's and they weren't a main focus.

Scarecrow- I have heard they take several years to get established but I have not heard that long. I have a few plants (male and female) that I am going to put in the ground this year. I know a few people who grow them and get a lot of fruit off of them in my area but I am not sure how long they have had them in the ground. 

They have the hardy type although I do not know the varieties- I have tasted them and they are delicious. The store type I think is not very hardy and wouldn't survive here. I have heard that Issai is self fertile but I have not grown it so I am not sure. 

The Issai was the other type I was trying to think of.

I have Marquis, Mars and Reliance. I got them from Burpee.

These guys get good reviews on the grape forums

http://www.doubleavineyards.com/

If I was planting another Grape I would likely try one of the new Univ. Arkansas  releases Hope, Gratitude, Joy, and Faith. As new they don't have the track record of some, but for the Southeast grower they have a pretty good program for disease resistance. Mars is seedless and from that program a good proven choice. Jupiter is an interesting grape  from the same program. The new releases depart from the celestial naming of their prior grapes and Stark Bros has starting carrying them as one source. I have heard good things about the aforementioned DoubleA vineyards as well.

My Hardy Kiwi are very slow. They as well take up a lot of space. A couple of my females have bloomed the last 2 years but my male has not, so maybe this year.  Issai does not reliably set fruit without pollination. It is a smaller vine and mine would set fruit and drop 99.9%, and many other folks report the same issue.

Pete, check out the university of Arkansas grapes. Double a sells them, link above from Rich. He is suggesting some of them.

double a seems to have lot of wine grapes. burpee and stark bros. have some seedless mentioned here that seems to be reliable down here. i think i'll go with something reliable. i just want few vine. they will be planted in containers anyway. i'll be surprised if i ge to eat grape that i've grown. nothing is as easy as figs. 

Hey Pete,

When I lived in Massachusetts I grew the grapevine Jupiter.  It had good sized reddish purple grapes that were seedless.  The flavor was very nice.  When I moved to AZ I bought another Jupiter grapevine and planted it here.  In its second year it started showing signs of Pierce's Disease.  It turns out that certain types of grapes are very susceptible to disease when grown in hot climates.  Pierce's Disease is a widespread problem in Texas, the Deep South, and in other parts of the country that have hot summers and mild winters.  Before you get a grapevine you may want to do some research about what diseases affect grapevines in the area where you live and then only plant a grapevine that is disease resistant for your area.  I had to pull out that Jupiter grapevine and replant with Black Spanish, which is resistant to Pierce's Disease.  You don't want to plant something that is not adapted to where you live and then have to do the same thing as me.  Best of luck.

Pete,

I must have not had coffee prior. In your area if you can handle seeds Muscadine is the way to go. They do have tough skins and seeds. I eat skin seeds and all most folks don't. But If you want some complex explosive flavors on a low care plant Muscadine should be considered. Muscadine is a type of grape not the cultivar, but I can list some if you have interest. In NC you probably have them growing in your local woods.

just checked the location suitability on ncsu site and you are right. muscadine is the only one that's listed. i know there are few houses that grow them and there is pick your own farm thing that grows them less than 5 min away from my house. darn it. i wanted nice table grape. 

Hi
When my family comes over they finish all of my grapes and they say it reminds them ancient times...

the variety is called isabbella:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_(grape)

This. This quote is what spurred me here and on many walks through gardens and vineyards. This quote is what builds community among men and ensures their fraternity. Thanks for posting it. I recently started rooting some seedless Concord and Niagara grapes from the same data base we use at UC Davis. Ordered on 12/5/13 and they arrived the 17th of this month. Came from Geneva, the Cornell extension in NY. Try there, good selection and great price, gratis. Even paid the postage for me.

I have 3 seedless grapes;
Vanessa (light red), Himrod (green/white)and sovereign coronation (blue) they grow well here so would grow better in your area.

i think the main issue here is that my area is rather hot and humid during the summer and leading to problems. 

Muscadines will make great jelly and apparently great wine.  Even if you want table grapes you could extend your season by making wine giving you something to do when all the figs are away in the winter, or just get used to a thicker flesh and spitting out seeds like water melons.  

Pete
Grape growing in humid and wet areas is challenging because of the disease pressures (mildew, rot ...).
If you want to grow grapes organically you really need a hot arid environment if not be prepared to be challenged and disappointed.

Hardy Kiwis fruit in 2-3 years if you do spur pruning.  Edible Landscaping has info on it.  They also sell much better plants than anyone else I've bought from.  Generally you get one thin vine 4-12".  EL sells thick vines with spurs 12-18".  And they're very reliable with labeling.

People are raving about the Cotton Candy grape but I don't know how it grows in your area.  I grew Catawba seedless for a while but it couldn't handle our winters.  It had great flavors.