Paul;y, yes i post picture if it ripens maybe a picture if it does not too!
So Ottawan has temp going into the low 40s yup thats getting down there.
Several weeks back we had temps in mid 40s for several nights i think i posted about that as i had to bring the smaller tender plants in the shed during that span as i felt it would set them back for rest of season, madeira , sals c, pastiliere, kalamata, argentile,baby portuguese, baby italian unknown all had to be put away then brought back out .