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Encanto Farms Fig Cuttings 2014

BM = black Madeira

Brian, try looking up the varieties here: http://figs4fun.com/Varieties.html

If anyone of you orders the Black Ischia or Ischia Black get the AD strain.
I have that strain and it is a very healthy one.
Not knocking the other ones but just saying.

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Originally Posted by brianm
What is b mad? Also there are so many that have numbers for names is there any way to reference what they are or look like?


B Mad states that it's presumed to be a seedling from Black Madeira.  Check the Varieties page for images.

Thanks, Rafed! I was actually looking into possibly ordering ischia black but did not know if there was a difference between barnissotte, Nero, and ischia black. I think I will go with your recommendation.rps20140209_125018_122.jpg 


Scott,

You won't go wrong. I am very pleased with mine.
And the taste is out of this world.

Check out my thread,

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/ischia-black-070713-update-5885204


BTW,
I don't know about the other names it falls under.
I would go with the B/I "AD" strain first.

Very helpful! Thank you, Rafed! 

I've spent so many hours cross referencing fig names today. I have a headache.

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If anyone of you orders the Black Ischia or Ischia Black get the AD strain.
I have that strain and it is a very healthy one.
Not knocking the other ones but just saying.


The Black Ischia I purchased from Jon (twice - once on ebay, once directly)  is not the same as the BI that is distributed by UCDavis. Jon has said he got the one he sells from a fig collector who calls it 'Black Ischi', or something like that. A very nice fig, more of a VdB type, but not 'the real'  UC Black Ischia. Fig names....

We know from another thread that Richard Watts, another avid fig collector, changed the name of the fig - Black Provence- to Black Ischia because it fit the description, or were 'synonyms' or something, and has sold it as such.  Let the buyer beware. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/black-ischia-or-provence-6666387

I want to know the answer to Greg's question: "If there are multiple numbers with the same name and you order one of the numbers will Jon substitute with another if that one runs out, or should we order all of them?"

Ok my order is ready.

Gina,

You did not say which strain you purchased twice from Jon?
And most of UCD's collection was raised through private donors. Yours could very well be the same as UCD's. Or mine could be same as UCD's. Regardless of what Jon said. Who or how he got his.
That same source he is talking about could be the same source as UCD or vice versa.

Nonetheless,
I am speaking about the strain I have my collection with my own personnel experience with. To my knowledge, the leaves on my BI bare the same resemblance as any other true "Ischia". Whether it be the Black, or the Green or any other.
The leaf formation and the way they tilt from the stem are the characteristics of a true Ischia.

I have provided a link to my thread on post #157 as evidence.

He has substituted for me in the past. 

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Originally Posted by milehighgirl
I want to know the answer to Greg's question: "If there are multiple numbers with the same name and you order one of the numbers will Jon substitute with another if that one runs out, or should we order all of them?"


I believe this is covered in the ordering instructions and that they will sub. Not at my computer to verify sorry.

Tylt33, Yep, your are right. Thanks

Why are some varieties listed more than once?

 If a variety has more than one stock number, then the cuttings came from more than one tree. In many cases the trees are identical. In those cases, we may substitute depending on availability. Where there are differences, we will advise before substituting.

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Originally Posted by milehighgirl
I want to know the answer to Greg's question: "If there are multiple numbers with the same name and you order one of the numbers will Jon substitute with another if that one runs out, or should we order all of them?"


You need only order one of them.  If that one runs out, one of the other dupes will be substituted for it.

one USDA/UCD Ischia Black growing. it's not too bad as far as growth is concerned, but the other half of the original cutting croaked real quick. Barnisssotte isn't much better. compared to those two, Black Madeira was a piece of cake.

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Originally Posted by Gina
Quote:
If anyone of you orders the Black Ischia or Ischia Black get the AD strain.
I have that strain and it is a very healthy one.
Not knocking the other ones but just saying.


The Black Ischia I purchased from Jon (twice - once on ebay, once directly)  is not the same as the BI that is distributed by UCDavis. Jon has said he got the one he sells from a fig collector who calls it 'Black Ischi', or something like that. A very nice fig, more of a VdB type, but not 'the real'  UC Black Ischia. Fig names....

We know from another thread that Richard Watts, another avid fig collector, changed the name of the fig - Black Provence- to Black Ischia because it fit the description, or were 'synonyms' or something, and has sold it as such.  Let the buyer beware. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/black-ischia-or-provence-6666387

Another question about substitution. I plan to order just 3 varieties-already rooting a bunch and don't want to take on more than I can handle ( that makes me feel like I have the addiction under control ). But I want to be sure I get 3, even if the supply of my first three choices runs out. Would I be able to list a number of acceptable alternatives that Jon could choose from if needed?

Thanks for any advice and clarification!

just went down the list. there are handful i'm looking for, but already in trade agreement with other members. a lot of varieties talked about recently. great list.

I haven't seen anywhere that lists the financing options for these orders. Anyone know what the 30 year rate is? Will he go 40 years? ;-)

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Originally Posted by Figfan203
On the cuttings list there are 2 numbers... Do we include the "no" or the "ref" number? Sorry for showin my newb this early but I don't want to have to re-do this

We're supposed to use the stock numbers (i.e. the "no").  The reference numbers ("ref") are only for Encanto Farms' own internal use.

terms = a dollar down and a dollar a day for 20 years.  I also have lease, lease to own and rental programs.  With approved credit, of course.  Plus, for the first time, I am able to offer a reverse mortgage on fig trees.  Standby for Henry Winkler to provide the details. 

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that makes me feel like I have the addiction under control


Ed, you wouildn't be here if you weren't addicted:) 

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Originally Posted by eboone
Another question about substitution. I plan to order just 3 varieties-already rooting a bunch and don't want to take on more than I can handle ( that makes me feel like I have the addiction under control ). But I want to be sure I get 3, even if the supply of my first three choices runs out. Would I be able to list a number of acceptable alternatives that Jon could choose from if needed?

Thanks for any advice and clarification!


Ed, last year Jon said that an alternatives list is ok. I included one with my order and it was filled.
I put a list of alternitives after my order, under the heading "alternitives", organized the same way as the list I am ordering.

Feels like NFL Draft Day!

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