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pitangadiego

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Posted 1391796580	Reply with quote #1

We are doing the final inventory and hope to have info posted today or tomorrow. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

GeneDaniels

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Posted 1391796678	Reply with quote #2

yeah! __________________ Zone 7b (Central Arkansas) Seven trees in the ground: Hardy Chicago, Celeste(?), LSU gold, Italian Black, Southern Brown Turkey(?), Strawberry Verte, and Unk yellow. Trees in pots: VdB, CdD, and Sicilian?

RichinNJ

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Posted 1391796908	Reply with quote #3

Ok

GreenFin

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Posted 1391797066	Reply with quote #4

Woo-hoo! __________________ James, zone 6a Kansas (zone 10 greenhouses); wish list is in my profile http://www.FigCuttings.com

rafed

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Posted 1391798934	Reply with quote #5

Taking too long! I'm going to tyty.

farowyn

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Posted 1391801384	Reply with quote #6

LOL, Rafed! __________________ Jeff Central OH- Zone 6a Wish list-anything that will ripen in zone 6a.Souadi(obsessed with this one), Takoma Violet, Col de Dame anything -currently rooting: MBVS, DK, RdB, VdB. “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed, citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” ― Margaret Mead

DallasFigs

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Posted 1391801947	Reply with quote #7

* ready to pounce * __________________ James - Irving, TX - Zone: 8a Follow me on EBay Wish List: 187-25 · Ice Crystal · Maltese Beauty · Maltese Falcon

greenfig

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Posted 1391802898	Reply with quote #8

Cool! Jon is back from Bermuda!! __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

pitangadiego

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Rafed, "no figs for you." __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Lebmark

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Posted 1391805364	Reply with quote #10

Rafed, TyTy should pay for this endorsement... Mark __________________ Zone 7 Brooklyn,NY. Fig Wish List 2014: I-258 Genovese Nero, Violet Dauphine , Noir De Caromb, ROUGE DE BORDEAUX , BARNISOTTE, BARNISOTTE GRIS, Anything Lebanese ( I mean Fruit Plants...That I do Not Have...)

milehighgirl

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Posted 1391805454	Reply with quote #11

Okay guys, I feel like I'm gonna be left in the dust here. What is the procedure once the list is posted? __________________ USDA Zone 5b, Sunset 2b Looking for: Becane, Dalmatie, Doree, Florea, Hanc's EBT, Italian 258, LaRadek's EBT, Longue d'Aout, Marseilles White , Negronne, Nordland, Sal's EL, Strawberry Vert, ...anything cold hardy and short season. (Willing to pay for cuttings)

rcantor

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Posted 1391807237	Reply with quote #12

He'll post the procedure once the list is posted. I blew my week off so I'm going to have to quit my job so I can be right there when it comes out. Generally the procedure goes something like this: Jon's hidden clues in Ontario and you have to go there, get the first clue, which basically says something like, 'go to Morocco and bring back a certain native plant, and give it to a guy in Paris, who gives you the next clue', and on & on. Every year it gets more involved. Along the way you will find coupons for certain cuttings. You send them via carrier pigeons you've trained to go to Encanto Farms if you want that variety. If not you can offer it for trade on the forum. __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

DallasFigs

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Posted 1391808023	Reply with quote #13

aww.. he said he wasn't going to do that anymore after that big fiasco with the Hawaiian Hula dancers last year... I still feel bad about all those fig leaf hula skirts I gave out.... on the other hand, my stock purchase for Anti-Itch Cream paid off... I'm In! __________________ James - Irving, TX - Zone: 8a Follow me on EBay Wish List: 187-25 · Ice Crystal · Maltese Beauty · Maltese Falcon

milehighgirl

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Posted 1391808053	Reply with quote #14

Thanks for the heads-up. I don't think I can afford this. The cheapest flight from Denver to Ontario Canada is $866.00. Also, I thought carrier pigeons were extinct:) __________________ USDA Zone 5b, Sunset 2b Looking for: Becane, Dalmatie, Doree, Florea, Hanc's EBT, Italian 258, LaRadek's EBT, Longue d'Aout, Marseilles White , Negronne, Nordland, Sal's EL, Strawberry Vert, ...anything cold hardy and short season. (Willing to pay for cuttings)

jake

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Posted 1391808343	Reply with quote #15

Quote: Originally Posted by milehighgirl Also, I thought carrier pigeons were extinct:) The passenger pigeon is the one which is extinct. __________________ Jake Zone 8B Crystal clear Gulf of Mexico,White sand beaches,Citrus trees, Large hurricanes,and tornadoes. Wish list: Scott's Yellow ( now have cuttings, Spring will tell)

COGardener

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Posted 1391809799	Reply with quote #16

A carrier pigeon or messenger pigeon is a homing pigeon (specifically a domesticated rock pigeon, Columba livia) that is used to carry messages. Using pigeons to carry messages is generally called "pigeon post". Most homing or racing type varieties are used to carry messages. There is no specific breed actually called "carrier pigeon".

milehighgirl

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Posted 1391810198	Reply with quote #17

Scott, that's good to know. So, are these pigeons provided or do I have to train my own? __________________ USDA Zone 5b, Sunset 2b Looking for: Becane, Dalmatie, Doree, Florea, Hanc's EBT, Italian 258, LaRadek's EBT, Longue d'Aout, Marseilles White , Negronne, Nordland, Sal's EL, Strawberry Vert, ...anything cold hardy and short season. (Willing to pay for cuttings)

rafed

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Posted 1391810332	Reply with quote #18

Quote: Originally Posted by milehighgirl Scott, that's good to know. So, are these pigeons provided or do I have to train my own? You have to supply and train your own. Include a couple flipper (tumbler) pigeons to distract the hunters.

james

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Posted 1391810472	Reply with quote #19

Rafed, I was going to type an acronym for what happened when I read your post, but I did not think anyone would get "MIDASTWIRT" (Man, I did a spit take when I read that"). Jon, I want you to know instead of getting all anxious about how long it was taking, I have embraced the process. I was going through my wish list over and over examining the nuances of each cultivar. I have been fine tuning to get the maximum enjoyment from going through your offerings. I'm would be sticking to that story, even if it didn't get me preferential treatment. __________________ In containers - Littleton, CO (zone 5b) In ground - N.E of Austin, TX (zone 8b) 2016 Wish List: Dārk Pōrtuguese, Grānthāms Royāl, Lātarolla, Negrettā, Nōire de Bārbentāne, Rockāway Green, Viōlet Sepōr, Viōlette Dāuphine. Iranian figs are always welcome.

milehighgirl

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Posted 1391811451	Reply with quote #20

You guys are so unfair! The closest breeder of tumbler pigeons is in Albuquerque NM. It's gonna cost me even more to fly out of NM, and then I have to pay for the pigeons too. I'm gonna have a cry and then I will have to make an appointment with my counselor to get over all this meanness. All I want is just a few fig cuttings. Gee whiz. __________________ USDA Zone 5b, Sunset 2b Looking for: Becane, Dalmatie, Doree, Florea, Hanc's EBT, Italian 258, LaRadek's EBT, Longue d'Aout, Marseilles White , Negronne, Nordland, Sal's EL, Strawberry Vert, ...anything cold hardy and short season. (Willing to pay for cuttings)

Lebmark

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Posted 1391811957	Reply with quote #21

and i thought, he gonna do it Alphabetically, using your last name.... Mark __________________ Zone 7 Brooklyn,NY. Fig Wish List 2014: I-258 Genovese Nero, Violet Dauphine , Noir De Caromb, ROUGE DE BORDEAUX , BARNISOTTE, BARNISOTTE GRIS, Anything Lebanese ( I mean Fruit Plants...That I do Not Have...)

rafed

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Posted 1391811961	Reply with quote #22

Ok Milehigh, Find Waldo and we'll let you in.

DallasFigs

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Posted 1391812042	Reply with quote #23

He's standing right there next to the fig tree! __________________ James - Irving, TX - Zone: 8a Follow me on EBay Wish List: 187-25 · Ice Crystal · Maltese Beauty · Maltese Falcon

greenfig

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Posted 1391812142	Reply with quote #24

Rafed, that is cruel ! By the time she is done, there will be no figs left! __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

DallasFigs

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Posted 1391812434	Reply with quote #25

Jon, Let me know if you want me to proof read the list before you post it.... __________________ James - Irving, TX - Zone: 8a Follow me on EBay Wish List: 187-25 · Ice Crystal · Maltese Beauty · Maltese Falcon

rafed

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Posted 1391812498	Reply with quote #26

Quote: Originally Posted by Lebmark and i thought, he gonna do it Alphabetically, using your last name.... Mark If he does it will be unconventional. Like starting with Z to A;)

rcantor

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Posted 1391814010	Reply with quote #27

There are races all over the country where people bring dozens or hundreds of pigeons to a remote location and release them. The first ones to make it back win cash. People breed and sell pigeon progeny of the stars. When I lived in OR my next door neighbor did this. He has 16 feet of pigeon coop space (x 6 tall x 5 deep). When they sell a pigeon they mail it! __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

rcantor

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Posted 1391814526	Reply with quote #28

I've already told you. Priority is by the # of limbs you have. __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

johnnyq627

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Posted 1391815259	Reply with quote #29

Cool! __________________ Nick- Youtube: PA Figs \| eBay: tdepoala Zone 6B/7A - Douglassville, PA Wish list - Galicia Negra, Paritjal Rimada, Black Ischia UCD

rafed

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Posted 1391815423	Reply with quote #30

Bob, Better be careful none of the pigeons get you.

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Posted 1391815879	Reply with quote #31

rafed, dang it.. i'm color blind! __________________ Pete Durham, NC Zone 7b "don't talk to me about naval tradition. It's nothing but rum, sodomy and the lash." - sir winston churchill "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - the baroness thatcher *** all my figs have FMV/FMD, in case you're wondering. * * and... i don't sell things. what little i have will be posted here in winter for first come first serve base to be shared. no, i'm not a socialist...***

pitangadiego

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Posted 1391817527	Reply with quote #32

James, proof-red this special list, just for you: "Brown Turkey" :-)) __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

DallasFigs

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Posted 1391820247	Reply with quote #33

Now see? You misspelled it. It's spelled "Col De Dame Gris" __________________ James - Irving, TX - Zone: 8a Follow me on EBay Wish List: 187-25 · Ice Crystal · Maltese Beauty · Maltese Falcon

Smaritza

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Posted 1391821010	Reply with quote #34

This is hilarious!!!! Such active imaginations!! __________________ Smaritza Bronx, NY Wishing for: Ronde de Bordeaux, Aubique Petit, Pananas Purple, Longue d Aout, Lebanese Red, Ischia Black, Scott's Black, Martineca Rimada, Tarantella, Jolly Tiger, Nero,

SoniSoni

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Posted 1391823125	Reply with quote #35

Ahhh but there was a very famous pigeon that saved 177 men in WW1 Did you ever hear about "Cher Ami"? __________________ Soni GA. 7-8. seeking Galicia Negra, Bianchi Guido, Violette de Sollies, Emerald Strawberry

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"Cher Ami" was a registered Black Check Cock carrier pigeon, one of 600 birds owned and flown by the U.S. Army Signal Corps in France during World War I. He delivered 12 important messages within the American sector at Verdun, France. On his last mission, "Cher Ami," shot through the breast by enemy fire, managed to return to his loft. A message capsule was found dangling from the ligaments of one of his legs that also had been shattered by enemy fire. The message he carried was from Major Whittlesey's "Lost Battalion" of the 77th Infantry Division that had been isolated from other American forces. Just a few hours after the message was received, 194 survivors of the battalion were safe behind American lines . "Cher Ami" was awarded the French "Croix de Guerre" with Palm for his heroic service between the forts of Verdun. He died in 1919 as a result of his battle wounds. "Cher Ami" was later inducted into the Racing Pigeon Hall of Fame in 1931 and received a gold medal from the Organized Bodies of American Racing Pigeon Fanciers in recognition of his extraordinary service during World War I. "Cher Ami" is on display at the National Museum of American History, Behring Center, in the exhibition "The Price of Freedom: Americans At War." __________________ Soni GA. 7-8. seeking Galicia Negra, Bianchi Guido, Violette de Sollies, Emerald Strawberry

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Posted 1391823389	Reply with quote #37

That's the trick how we can get fig cuttings into the country. Homming pigeons. __________________ Soni GA. 7-8. seeking Galicia Negra, Bianchi Guido, Violette de Sollies, Emerald Strawberry

RichinNJ

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Posted 1391826794	Reply with quote #38

Quote: Originally Posted by SoniSoni "Cher Ami" was a registered Black Check Cock carrier pigeon, one of 600 birds owned and flown by the U.S. Army Signal Corps in France during World War I. He delivered 12 important messages within the American sector at Verdun, France. On his last mission, "Cher Ami," shot through the breast by enemy fire, managed to return to his loft. A message capsule was found dangling from the ligaments of one of his legs that also had been shattered by enemy fire. The message he carried was from Major Whittlesey's "Lost Battalion" of the 77th Infantry Division that had been isolated from other American forces. Just a few hours after the message was received, 194 survivors of the battalion were safe behind American lines . "Cher Ami" was awarded the French "Croix de Guerre" with Palm for his heroic service between the forts of Verdun. He died in 1919 as a result of his battle wounds. "Cher Ami" was later inducted into the Racing Pigeon Hall of Fame in 1931 and received a gold medal from the Organized Bodies of American Racing Pigeon Fanciers in recognition of his extraordinary service during World War I. "Cher Ami" is on display at the National Museum of American History, Behring Center, in the exhibition "The Price of Freedom: Americans At War." We race pigeons here in the Garden State. One of my employees neighbors makes quite a bit of $ doing it I've been told. I have seen the trucks on I-80 regularly in the morning taking the birds out to western NJ from where they will fly back to Clifton and the wagers will be honored.

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Originally Posted by milehighgirl
Thanks for the heads-up. I don't think I can afford this. The cheapest flight from Denver to Ontario Canada is $866.00. Also, I thought carrier pigeons were extinct:)

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Wish list:
Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

milehighgirl

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Well I just want to tell you that not all of you here on F4F are meanies. I just got a list sent to me from last year and it says nothing about Canada or pigeons! __________________ USDA Zone 5b, Sunset 2b Looking for: Becane, Dalmatie, Doree, Florea, Hanc's EBT, Italian 258, LaRadek's EBT, Longue d'Aout, Marseilles White , Negronne, Nordland, Sal's EL, Strawberry Vert, ...anything cold hardy and short season. (Willing to pay for cuttings)

KyleW

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Posted 1391828045	Reply with quote #41

Hopefully no one cares that this thread has gone completely off topic... True Story- Several years ago I drove 100 miles to get a breeding pair of homing pigeons. These birds are often used to train bird dogs. When you release them they go back to the home coop. I wanted the breeding pair to acclimate their offspring to my coop. After bringing the pair home- I went to put them in the new coop I had made for them and the male escaped my grasp. Within 3 hours it was back to where I had bought him from. Since then I often have thought there was money in breeding and selling escape homing pigeons. Kyle

greenfig

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I almost could hear a deflation sound ... __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

rcantor

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Posted 1391829033	Reply with quote #43

Quote: Originally Posted by milehighgirl Well I just want to tell you that not all of you here on F4F are meanies. I just got a list sent to me from last year and it says nothing about Canada or pigeons! The directions are different every year. Two years ago the directions changed from the first list to the second list about a week apart. Jon will post this year's instructions just as I said. Until he does no one knows what they will be. Do not assume the presumably phony instructions you got from last year will be the same this year. "Orders that do not follow the procedures will be set aside until other orders have been filled." That's a quote, as near as I can remember, from the second set of procedures 2 years ago. Wait till you get this year's instructions. That's what I said and I'm sticking to it. __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

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Posted 1391829060	Reply with quote #44

Quote: Originally Posted by greenfig I almost could hear a deflation sound ... That was me. Sorry. I changed my diet recently ... : )

DallasFigs

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Quote: Originally Posted by RichinNJ Quote: Originally Posted by greenfig I almost could hear a deflation sound ... That was me. Sorry. I changed my diet recently ... : ) Do I detect a hint of Black Madeira? __________________ James - Irving, TX - Zone: 8a Follow me on EBay Wish List: 187-25 · Ice Crystal · Maltese Beauty · Maltese Falcon

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Posted 1391866875	Reply with quote #46

How quickly do these cuttings usually go? Is it gone that day type if crazy? Judging by the previous posts I'm not expecting a serious answer, but hoping for 1. __________________ Mike in zone 6B

musillid

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Posted 1391867767	Reply with quote #47

Depends on what is de rigeur. Any answer is a bit complicated, because all cultivars do not yield the same number of cuttings and those highly sought can be gone quickly. So, supply and demand by cultivar will influence your chances. Also, perhaps an east coast-west coast problem, as Jon is on the west coast and we east of the Mississippi may be napping when he finally let's loose the fig list. __________________ Dale non compost mentis in Zone 6a

greenfig

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Posted 1391867809	Reply with quote #48

I assume they are fist come fist served. It all depends on the variety and a suspense around it. Come up with your list now and stick to it otherwise you will get 2x more. Not all the varieties will be available but many to keep you busy. __________________ wish list: Violeta, Calderona. USDA z 10a, SoCal

rcantor

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Posted 1391870706	Reply with quote #49

A while back it was first come, first served but that made us put in multiple orders. We rapidly submitted an order for the best 3 cuttings, went back and ordered a few other important ones, and then other order(s). That, in Jon's words, "drove him crazy". So last year he gave a 3 day window, saying all orders arriving by a certain date would be treated equally. I haven't seen a comment on how that worked for him. The pricing structure was different 2 years ago than it was last year. Only Jon and possibly his helpers know how it's going to be this year. And, truth is, it's possible that Jon hasn't even decided yet. :) Being new doesn't put you at any disadvantage. I'm just trying to entertain you while you wait. You have to remember that this is a huge job. I've sent over 100 boxes of cuttings of 1 or 2 varieties and that drove me nuts. Jon has over 1000 varieties and probably 1000 requests. He charges much less than he'd make from ebay. This means that he needs to optimize his workflow and we have to fall in line with it so he doesn't get burnt out. Or at least so he can recover in less than a year. :) That being said; Jon, are we there yet? :) __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

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Posted 1391872028	Reply with quote #50

Since we have flown off topic, I finally noticed (when I was looking for the Fig that are available on the home page) that there is other Fruit. And, in addition, I noticed links to the California Rare Fruit Growers. My questions are these: 1) Are there any fig plants available? 2) Are there any other Fruiting plants available? 3) Is there any chance of posting other CRFG links? I.e.; Sacramento, CA, etc? __________________ Sacramento, CA 95825 Zone 9

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