Ok so I have been tryng to root 2 Bayerfeige Violetta Cuttings for months now just a couple days ago I noticed 2 tiny roots on one of the cuttings the other one does not even have any root bumps yet. Is the Bayerfeige Violetta one of those hard to roots Variants?? Starting to run out of patience with these.

Not for me, roots like a champ. Stick it some well draining soil and call it a day.

Thank Jose for some reason I have got the opposite results, These two cuttings tried growing leaves a few times they would grow then drop and never grow roots starting to think the cuttings used to much energy trying to grow leaves. Currently no leaves on either cutting one cutting has 2 visible roots the other is doing nothing and im giving it 3 more weeks to do something or its going in the garbage.

Mine is one of the ones I potted up into 1gl. about a week ago.
Not one of the best but it has a couple of branches with several small leaves.

Perhaps I could have waited a little longer to pot it.

I am no expert but just some experience and found that in most cases it mostly depend on the vitality of the specific cutting being rooted. I had heard that Black Madeira was hard to root and a few others like that but my two Black Madeira cuttings rooted just fine. Similarly was the case with a few other hard to root tyes. Conversely I had hard time with cuttings that I never read about them being hard to root. So many variables have been mentioned that can cause issues with rooting. Even the cuttings from the same branch can show different vitality and speed of rooting. It is not a total mystery to mention causes that can cause failure or delays to root but it is sometimes a mystery to find the problem with a specific cutting as to which of the many causes applies to it.
Some of the reason mentioned in the past (or personal experience) for rooting vitality are (if otherwise treated the same in rooting process);
- Lignified cuttings are better than green are less lignified
- Woody thick cuttings are supposed to be better than thin skinny cuttings (more reserve nutrient). It does not mean thin cuttings don't root.
- Cuttings with smaller pith succeed more than with larger pith
- Cuttings from the sunny side of the tree are better than shaded side
- Cuttings taken from the top are expected to be better than taken from the bottom
- Cuttings taken from tree fed with good nutrients the previous year have good vitality
- I found cuttings with goosebumps rooting fast and abundant roots.
- Cuttings with longer storage lose some vitality
- There are other reasons as well and of course the unknown fact that cutting or cuttings from a specific branch may have some disease or its hydraulic (capillary) system damaged that cannot be seen from outside and may cause rooting failure.

Some day, hopefully, it will become an exact science than art.

Akram,

I agree with you on the Black Madeira.
I already had one but I ordered cutting from Jon. It was one of the easiest to root. Now it's sitting in a 1gl. pot.

Nelson,
I think it would be a good idea to pinch off any roots for now. They may need all the energy they can get.

Not the brightest Idea what I just did checking the roots, but I seen 2 tiny roots maby half inch long on wednesday.

Just took these pics now



How the hell can roots not grow for 2 months and then in two days grow over an inch, I dont know im a little confused with this one.

Nelson,

Inside a branch are two types of cells: shoot apical meristem and adventitious meristem.  The shoot meristem is responsible for the growth at the branch's tip.  The adventitious meristem are quieter cells and lie in the branch waiting to do something.  These are the cells that become new branches when the growing tip is damaged or removed (see Herman's pinching technique to increase branching.)  When rooting a cutting, these adventitious cells are convereted to root apical meristem.  This takes time and, by the collective observation of the forum members, varies by variety, location, medium, etc.

FWIW: I am rooting 'Black Madeira' for the second time.  After a month in sphagnum moss, they did not form initials.  I went ahead and potted them up, after being potted up for 20 days, they still don't feel as if they've rooted.  They are my hardest rooter this year, followed by '278-128' and 'Peter's Honey'.

~james

James this year the Bayernfeige , Black Madeira & Hunt have been a real pain compared to the others. Well I have waited this long I guess I can wait a bit more and just see what the other cutting decides to do.

Hey There Nelson,
shame on you for uprooting it -- naw really i do the same thing sometimes as i dont want to be staring at a stick for several months only to carefully dig up and see its rotted.
I recently did the same as you and put it back and its showing roots around cup wall.
They sometimes take there sweet time and sometimes not.

Hey Martin lol I dont like doing that since I have broken roots in the past pulling a macGuyver move like that but thank god I didnt do that this time. Ya it seems some cuttings are in absolutely no hurry to show themselves.

I think that mine just did-the-dust this winter.
Had a few fruits before, nothing very special.
I think that there are better figs, and it may
not be a one for me worth to re-start...

Gorgi thanks for your honesty I was debating about this one and the english Brown turkey but was not able to obtain the english brown turkey yet so I will give the Bayerfeige a try.