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Favorite Fig

I did a search on "favorite" and it came back empty.

So I'm almost afraid to ask... but as a newcomer to growing figs, and given the large number of varieties available, it would be really useful information to have.

Currently, do you have a favorite variety? If so, what makes it your favorite?

Search again. There is a pageful of links to the word.

Figs taste profile behave differently, at least in my zone. Last year my favourites were RdB, Granthams Royal and Brunswick.
Other years have been I258, Aubique Petite, Gypsy, Enrico etc. I suppose it depends where I locate my pots too. I have
sample awesome tasting H.Chicago, VdB, Dark Portuguese from other zones and they were awesome.
 

Last year:  Longue d'Aout, Preto, Atreano.  These all have distinct flavors.

My favourite changes every year based on new figs that come into production and the weather for that year.

Maybe the question should be what figs don't people like?

In my case the only figs I didn't like are the few that regardless of the pampering and attention they refuse to ripen properly. 

I think the climate is the biggest factor in your decision. The other is yes Ebay has a lot of fig cuttings to buy from. But, many do not ship international. I read on a seller's rating that a customer complained that it took 30 days to get his cuttings and blamed the seller. The customs officials can hold the cuttings for a long time. I believe that Asia has its own Ebay for your area. So you may find some good ones there..???

Every named fig variety at one point in time, and in a certain location, must have been someone's favorite fig.  I agree with Armando that the climate/location is a huge factor.  Try to reach out to other fig growers in your area to see what their favorites are.

Check with the real spelling "favourite", not the short cut 'favorite' !

I ask Mr James Robin this exact same question.  What is your favorite fig?  He said this and I agree, "my favorite fig is the current one that's in my mouth!"

You're not going to get a favorite fig.

For Thailand:  Panachee and Hollier would be my guess.  Depends on where you are in Thailand, though.

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Originally Posted by snaglpus
I ask Mr James Robin this exact same question.  What is your favorite fig?  He said this and I agree, "my favorite fig is the current one that's in my mouth!"


I'm going to say that this is without doubt the best answer ever!  Dennis, thank you for burning that into my head, it will be my standard answer from here on out.

Scott

A fully ripe lsu gold is a winner for sure. There are lost of fig with fancy name leaves and color but this fig grown properly really is sweet and fat.

Panache tends to split in high humidity areas.  You can also contact this guy - he has lots of varieties and if your import authorities allow he does sell cuttings.

https://www.facebook.com/figmalaysia?ref=br_tf

As a new fig grower myself, I can understand your frustration. You have to pick one fig to grow without ever having tasted it. Yes, they're all good, but which one to choose? Local nurseries just sell what is big, productive, pretty and don’t care about taste. What’s helped me is deciding which of the tastes of figs I prefer. This article might be helpful as a start, especially since the writer is growing figs in a hot and humid environment -perhaps similar to yours?:

“Choosing Fig Varieties......by their taste (flavor)”

http://cajunfigs.blogspot.com/2012/05/choosing-figsby-their-taste.html

AltadenaMara I've seen that article before, probably when I was new to figs, but now I know that everyone has specific likes and dislikes. 

I don't agree with cajunfig on Violette De Bordeaux.  That is a cold weather fig, and it's leaves shrivel in our heat and although it was my first fig and I have two planted on property, neither one pleases JD or I.  The figs are dry and small.  They taste good, but not as good as VERTE!  That is one of the Adriatic-type figs.  It has a raspberry jam flavor and is so good, you just want to close your eyes and lean against something after you have one.  And from what cajunfig says about Bourjosotte Gris, I can't wait to taste mine!  In February, it is now loaded with figs!  Cajunfigs BG wasn't productive.  Mine has many figs per branch and it's got more coming.  Just checked it yesterday, and some are getting fat and plump.  The dude missed Kadota which, along with Marylane Seedless might just be our favorites. 

Climate really does affect flavor and production.

Suzi

Suzi, thanks for your feedback. I've tasted none of these figs fresh, so can only go on other people's feedback. I'm eating as many dried and frozen figs as I can find and am learning to enjoy them.
Several people here recommended Violette de Bordeax, so I now have two planted in the ground. I guess I can dig them up if I don't like them?
I have two baby Strawberry Vertes thanks to the generosity of one of the members here, and am looking forward to tasting the fruit. 

Also, my "Bible" for fruit tasting is Edward Bunyard's The Anatomy of Dessert. He writes: "Bourjosotte Gris with its brown-red almost jelly like flesh is in the very foremost rank of figdom." I have some cuttings of this that seem to be rooting. It's great to hear that it does well here.
 
I found this taste classification helpful as well, which is similar to Cajun's, and decided to get one or two of the best fig trees from each category. Of course, who can stop at one or two?:

Flavors: http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/file?id=1658209

1,Sugar  “Sugar sweet....” Alma, Hollier,

2.Honey  “Honey sweet.... "sugar sweet ranging from lightly sweet to very sweet with rich (creamy) and/or complex additional flavors. Fig flavor can range from none to light. LSU Gold, Barada,

 3.Adriatic Berry  Sugar sweet...with berry flavor” Sugar sweet with a berry taste which is rich with slightly complex additional flavors. When ripe, jammy interior. Otherwise has a standard dark flavor. Fig flavor can range from none to light. Adriatic JH,Strawberry Verte, Bourjosotte Gris, Battaglia Green 

4.Bordeaux Berry  Sweet, with a berry taste which is rich...” Sweet with a berry taste which is rich with slightly complex additional flavors. Fig flavor can range from none to light. Violette de Bordeaux, Ronde de Bordeaux,

5.Dark Berry Mildly sweet to very sweet, some degree of berry flavor....” and some degree of acidity. Some with complex additional flavors. Fig flavor can range from none to some. LSU Purple,

6.Exotic Berry  Black Madiera, Figo Prieto

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ihfyIwZ8l5DyVMFvTOAthQf65jn-2bRRMPGR57AKSyw/edit#gid=210393602
 

This gives more information about specific tastes and origins, but only on cold tolerant varieties, I wish we had a similar db like this on varieties that do well in hot, dry desert areas like SoCal: 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ihfyIwZ8l5DyVMFvTOAthQf65jn-2bRRMPGR57AKSyw/edit#gid=210393602

AltadenaMara,

There are many of us in California growing figs, so maybe we'll have to make our own list :)) 

I have a 2 year old Ronde de Bordeaux in ground that has never had a fig, so maybe this will be the year.  I hope it's better than VdB! 

Alma is a wonderful, superior honey fig, and I have hollier cuttings on the way, but I would put Kadota and Marylane seedless (not seedless) above all in that category so far.  Of course, I do have LSU gold in it's 2nd year in ground.  This may be the year for my first taste.  It's starting to bud out. 

I have Adriatic growing but not sure if it's JH.  Could have been a start from UC Davis.  Gifted to me from a member who no longer posts here.  It's growing well in ground and I hope to taste figs from it this year.  You already know Verte is just fabulous in every way from my previous post.  I'll be updating myBourjosotte Gris thread later today.  It's at the highest point on our property, and I checked it yesterday.  There are some pretty big figs on it, so tasting might be sooner than I thought.  Taking a new photo today.  Stay tuned.

I have many 2 year old trees that haven't gifted a fig yet, so jury is out on Black Mission, Ronde de Bordeaux, Marseille Vs Black, Paradiso and some whose tags I lost when we moved here.  Once I get ripe figs from those, I'll be posting leaf and fig photos for ID.

I have not tasted Black Madiera or Figo Prieto, and don't have either one of those.

As to making our own list, there are so many microclimates in California that could be tough too!  My grandpa had a fig tree in La Crescenta, and I hated those things.  Probably the insipid Brown Turkey, LOL!

Suzi

And don't ever under estimate the simple sweet super "figgy" flavor of Celeste...which I don't know how hot it is in the summer where you are, but I assume Celeste likes heat...

Suzi, you’re right. We in SoCal need to make our own list. 

Cajun, the Varieties DB says about Celeste “Excellent fig -- arguably the finest Southern fig, but usually disappointing in California and the Southwest.”

Herman2 advises:  “When in pot Fig is stressed, and so Celeste when stressed, for any reason, like heat lack of water, etc, drops the fruits. When in ground,it is much relaxed. And when relaxed, it makes absolutely top quality fruits, even here in Nj, out of its normal climate range. Last word:If you intend to grow in pot in a hot climate, do not grow Celeste.”

Then there is the question: “Which Celeste?”

There seems to be general agreement that the Improved Celeste is better, but there are at least three such varieties like the LSU Improved Celeste, Improved Celeste Not, and the O’Rouke fig tree. Just Fruits and Exotics carries two of these trees but doesn't ship to California. Then there’s Celeste JR and LSU Golden Celeste.

In the Sugar/Honey flavor category, I have Alma, LSU Gold and Hollier as young whips, so may wait on Celeste.  

Mara,
In the place you live, the number One fig is the Unk. Pastilliere. It requires pollination and you wouldn’t see much written about it outside CA.
Very close second is Zidi (also requires pollination).  They are both the berry type figs. 

Greenfig, Thank you for your suggestions. I have given them top priority. You recommended:

“Unk. Pastilliere, Zidi, HdA, Strawberry Verte, VdB/Negronne, RdB DK, MBVS, CA BT”

 I couldn’t find any fig near to CA, but the others (I think) translate to:

Unknown Pastiliere, Zidi, Hative D’Argenteuil, Strawberry Verte, Violette de Bordeaux/Negronne, RdB=Ronde de Bordeaux, DK=Desert King, MBVS= Marseilles Black VS, CA=?, BT=Brown Turkey?

 Desert King and Violette dB were easy to find. A kind member of the board here sent me some cuttings of RdB and MBVS. Another kind member gave me two Strawberry Verte that she rooted. I have a bid going now on eBay for cuttings of Hative D’Argenteuil. I can’t find Unknown Pastiliere or Zidi anywhere, but check eBay daily for them. I may have a fig tree already that might be BT. I hope someone here might help me identify it once it’s leafed out with figs.
Thank you again for your input.

  

AltadenaMara it would be great if you would go to your control panel and put your planting zone in the signature field.  That helps others in the USA know your growing requirements, sorta.  Altadena was a no brainer for me.  Pretty much like my zone, but so many microclimates......  Does it ever drop below freezing where you live?  It mostly doesn't here, but snow falls because of the cold air currents above.  It usually doesn't stick at all.  Our highest summer temps lurk around 103 F.

I should be able to let you know how RdB and MBVS taste this year.

I'm pretty demanding when it comes to flavor profiles.  I like to know the following:
Juicy vs dry
Honey drop?
Berry (if so which one), Figgy, Honey, Peachy, Tropical?
First taste and after layered tastes
nutty crunch, a lot sort of or none
Skin.  Thick and tough, thin and easy.  Which?
Watery vs. Rich

See?  Not an easy thing...

Suzi

I apologize for my abbreviations :)
You were correct about all except the CA BT, it is the California Brown Turkey. 
It is not the same fig as a BT, the fig names could be misleading. This fig has many names, one of them is Black Spanish.
Quite a few figs I have were started from the UCD cuttings. Some complain about the FMV from there but I have not observed this to be a problem. At least their cuttings are true to the name.
Please be careful buying from eBay. Sometimes getting “a fig” is not the same as “the fig” you wanted. 

I may have extras of Unk. Pastilliere and CA BT later in the season, if you fail to locate any now.


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Originally Posted by AltadenaMara
Greenfig, Thank you for your suggestions. I have given them top priority. You recommended:

“Unk. Pastilliere, Zidi, HdA, Strawberry Verte, VdB/Negronne, RdB DK, MBVS, CA BT”

 I couldn’t find any fig near to CA, but the others (I think) translate to:

Unknown Pastiliere, Zidi, Hative D’Argenteuil, Strawberry Verte, Violette de Bordeaux/Negronne, RdB=Ronde de Bordeaux, DK=Desert King, MBVS= Marseilles Black VS, CA=?, BT=Brown Turkey?

 Desert King and Violette dB were easy to find. A kind member of the board here sent me some cuttings of RdB and MBVS. Another kind member gave me two Strawberry Verte that she rooted. I have a bid going now on eBay for cuttings of Hative D’Argenteuil. I can’t find Unknown Pastiliere or Zidi anywhere, but check eBay daily for them. I may have a fig tree already that might be BT. I hope someone here might help me identify it once it’s leafed out with figs.
Thank you again for your input.

  

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I should be able to let you know how RdB and MBVS taste this year.

I'm pretty demanding when it comes to flavor profiles.  I like to know the following:
Juicy vs dry
Honey drop?
Berry (if so which one), Figgy, Honey, Peachy, Tropical?
First taste and after layered tastes
nutty crunch, a lot sort of or none
Skin.  Thick and tough, thin and easy.  Which?
Watery vs. Rich

See?  Not an easy thing...

Suzi


Ugh.  I totally agree.  I want something more than "sweet and prolific green fig" or "rich and complex."  What does that even mean!?  I've only every tried about 5-6 varieties, and most were store-bought and far from dead ripe.  Moreover, I've got a bunch of cuttings going, more rooting, and ideally even more if/when UCD starts their thing.  I can google the crap out of them, but typically the best case scenario is when I find how people categorize a fig (e.g. adriatic type, honey type, or bordeaux berry type).  The newenglandgardening youtube channel has several varieties, but even that can be inadequate.  Or how about when people rate figs (e.g. 8/10, 9.5/10), is that an overall rating?  A rating for that "class" of figs (again...sugar, honey, adriatic, etc)?  Is this like....a thing for advanced tasters, or just casual and arbitrary?  I sure don't know.  I've surfed virtually all the threads over 50 posts at one point or another, but I still struggle to find out what I can expect a fig to taste like someday.  Alas.

Rant over.  Haha.

brettjm in GA, Someone here who is really savvy needs to do an excel spreadsheet with all the parameters for flavor on there, considering the planting zone, of course.  I guess it's just too hard.  But we have a vineyard, and there is a lot that goes into tasting wine.  I apply the same standards to figs.
Suzi

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