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Favourite in ground figs for cold climates

Giuseppe, do you grow your Valle Calda in the ground and when does it ripen fruit for you?

Granthams Royal for brebas
RdB for main crop

Thanks Paul have heard many great things of Grantham's Royal.  What climatic zone in PNW are you in?
I managed to kill my gifted cutting didn't so I will put it back on my wish list.

OT. Paul you are deserting your Desert King that you have been touting about for so many years here and all Vancouver island and the area is full of DKs !!
DK is a good one too but I always mess up its pruning process. 

Pino,
I`m in zone 6a near Rochester ny,and I grow all my figs in containers,store them in a detached garage ,no heat.Ciao,
Giuseppe

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Originally Posted by pino


Ed you are in Zone 6 are you growing any figs in ground?  Thanks



Pino, I am in zone 6a (used to be classed as 5b, still 5b by the weather previous 2 years). I have just over 2 years of fig growing and rooting under my belt, and all of mine except a Sal's(Gene) are in pots so far, and the Sal's went in ground last May or early June.  It is protected by being beside an above ground pool, surrounded by a wire cage, 6 inches of pine bark mulch over the base, bags of leaves stuffed around the pruned back branches and trunk(pruned back to about 2 1/2 ft height, about 6-7 branch stubs), covered with a tarp, and then another 4 inches of mulch around the cage.  Hope it makes it.  I will report on my results in the spring.  If this survives and does well, I plan on putting a number of others in ground (they will not have the nearby pool advantage though, will be more in open) and will treat the same way. 

Thanks for posting your recommendations, Pino.  Good idea!

Thanks Akram! Desert King is a great suggestion for cold climates! 
I should have thought of that also since Adriano has his DK in ground against a fence for many years producing lots of breba figs.  That's a Zone 6 example.

Thanks Giuseppe, Valle Calda sounds like a nice fig but at this point looks like we don't know how it would do in ground in cold zones.  I am in same zone 6  as you it sure looks like a fig I would love to try in ground!

Ed, sounds like your Sal's Gene sounds well protected for winter!  Hope you get rewarded with lots of nice figs.

Thanks Meg!

Ottawan -- since we discover Granthams Royal, DK plays 2nd fiddle. Michael tasted GR and he too is convince it is better tasting.
It is a well balance tasting fig and juicy. This spring I am grafting GR to a few trees. It is really good for my zone. My wife says she would
like to air layer branches going into the neighbour property for air tickets since the neighbour property was sold -- making way to build
4 houses. I need to do a large air layer & bring it to a sunny spot as new homes will cut hours of sunlight. I hope to locate a couple of great 
tasting breba trees here in Vancouver as I am getting more info on trees grown by migrants from Europe.

Valle Cadda is less superior in taste compared to RdB for my zone, it is later too in ripening. Will likely use tree for grafting RDB.

Thanks for the update Paul!

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Originally Posted by jdsfrance
Hi,
As you know I'm in Zone7.
I'm trialing :
- Brownturkey - the real one with lots of brebas and vine colored soft brebas.
- Dorée (french) aka Brunswick (3 trees)
- Longue d'aout -  strain mild grower / Baud? - label was quoting his book (1 tree)
- Longue d'aout - healthy grower (1 tree)
- Dalmatie ( 3 trees )
- ufti - unknown from the Italian gardener (7 trees).
The others were too young to produce anything ( Osborn prolific, Panache,Dauphine, Violette Dauphine, 4 unknown, my ufti seedling , madeleine des deux saisons).

Ranking for production goes like this :
- Dalmatie - especially my older tree
- Longue d'aout healthy
- ufti - reliable fruiter but not a big haul, and maincrop is a bit too late.
- BT - especially for the breba crop
- Longue d'aout mild
- Dorée

Ranking for taste goes like this:
- Longue d'aout healthy / ufti / Longue d'aout mild / Dalmatie
- Dorée / BT

In the future, I may get rid of Dorée . The figs tend to have a mild flavor (like in none, but just sweet) if any. The figs take for ever to ripen, here. They often ripen one half of the fruit faster than the other.
In the future, I may replace some uftis with the healthy longue d'aout. The harvest is huge in size and number of figs on hlda . Its honey meaty texture, and berry flavor and color is just what I want in a fig.
I already have 3 spots of Dalmatie (8 trees/trunks coming from dirt) - so I'm not planning on adding more for now (in pots planting, doesn't count ;) ). My Dalmatie has few brebas but has a bountiful maincrop that ripens by the first of September, with is really early for a Zone7.

You already know my protection technique : The 80l/20Gal trashcan around the trunk with some dirt inside the container (I can use plastic bags to mound the extra dirt around the feet too).
This year, the winter was mild until last week, so I just installed milder protections, like trashcans with no dirt inside.
Starting last weekend we are experiencing some -5°C/23°F at night - The trees should survive that except for the yearlings that might or not have some die-back.
I'll see come Spring. Yesterday, the water in the containers in the garden was frozen solid - and no way to break the ice crust.

Because my different strains of fig trees ripen at different times with some overlapping, they are so far all my favorites with a little preference to hlda, mlda,Dalmatie and ufti.
The only deceiving one for now is "Dorée". I'll let her some more years to prove me that I'm wrong though - hell, I gave money to buy this stuff !
Hi jdsfrance
Thanks again for the detailed information.  I am wondering if you can provide some more details on;
"ufti - unknown from the Italian gardener (7 trees)".  It must be a good fig or you wouldn't have 7 trees.  Is it a mt. etna type fig?  A photo by any chance? 

Pino,
a good fig to grow in ground in zone 6a is Lattarula or Italian honey,some of my friends do grow this fig in my area with protection.Ciao,
Giuseppe

Thanks Giuseppe, those are excellent figs for in ground and certain to produce tons of figs with little work effort. 

latarrula, Osborne Prolic, Florea, Barbillone, Melanzana AF, Nebo are good in-ground figs for my zone. Other reliable ones in-pot
culture where I would like to trial in-ground are LSU O'rourke and Improved Celeste.

Paul thanks for the info those figs sound good. 
Where about are you in B.C. I am wondering what the climatic zone is? 

Fraser Valley, near Vancouver. 

Ginoso is another reliable + hardy fig to have in my zone. No protection in pot culture and after many years, roots have gone in-ground.
Got 2 large trees. One going to another family very soon. In terms of taste it is better than Florea. It ripens later than Florea & RdB.

I've noticed a few of you are from Canada... where are you getting your figs? I'm having a hard time tracking down cultivars.

My neighbours have Italian honey in ground which gets really sweet and a portuguese plant that is loaded with figs, but doesn't seem to get as sweet.

We're zone 7 generally...

Marc0: check here : http://brugmansia-quebec.com/Catalogue/Figuier%20Fonce_ang.html

However, the thread is for a specific topic "Favorite in ground fig for cold climate". Other  subjects can have their own thread to be more effective.

Brought in a bunch of figs from Encanto Farms. Not sure whether Jon does it anymore.
Best way to understand phyto requirements is to write CFIA in Ottawa. The localised CFIA gave me
many contradictory advises. Even when I brought in the figs, border security were not up to date on
CFIA phyto requirements. I have to show them copies of my correspondence with CFIA Ottawa to get
clearance.



Check with Bass which trees have done best for him in ground. I think he is in zone 6a or 6b. In 2014 he sent me a message saying his Sumacki tree had made it to -3 degrees F so far, unprotected, against a south facing wall. I don't know if that tree has had new record lows since he messaged me last. He's a wealth of knowledge and very helpful.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to derail the thread - I've just been having a hard time tracking down some of the cold hardy cultivars. Thanks for the suggestions about where/how to get figs.


I'll be planting Hardy Chicago and Marseilles Black Vs outside this Spring so hopefully they'll do alright for me.

Paully22, sounds like Ginoso is another one to add to the proven cold tolerant table. 
I have seen Ginoso mentioned as a Mt Etna type fig? but I haven't seen any photos of the fig or leaves do you happen to have a photo?

Thanks Jenny for the suggestion!  Bass has been growing figs in ground for many years hopefully he sees this post.  I planted his Brooklyn White in ground last year hopefully that will work out.

Marc, I think you will do fine with Hardy Chicago and Marseilles Black VS!  They are both Mt. Etna types and in IMO they are a sure thing for in ground to at least Zone 6 and maybe Zone 5 if they are well protected for the winter.  
At this time of year I only have Ciccio Nero cuttings left.  This mt. etna type black fig I have been growing in ground for over 21 years and it has been loaded with delicious sweet dark berry tasting figs every year and should also do well in your climatic zone.  Send me PM with your address and I will send some cuttings out to you if you are interested. 

I have Ginoso pictures. Will look for them and post. 

Interesting and very informative thread based on growers experiences in cold climate. I have moved last year to my new house, this is my second winter here. It is slightly colder here but I have a few fig trees in ground that has been here for a few years.
Macool is in ground and refuses to die, I let it grow freely in the middle of the property where it has always been, and gets some die back but grows back and fruits. 
Brooklyn white, is very vigorous grower, even when it dies back it grows over 10 ft. in one season. It's a late variety usually ripens in september/october, you can trick it to fruit sooner by pinching the new growth.
Dark Portuguese, excellent producer and seems to be the most reliable in my zone, planted it in ground at new property 2 years ago.
Other varieties that have done very well in ground in my area unprotected, Salem dark, Syrian Dark, Syrian Long, Ronde de bordeaux, Malone, Sumacki (cold hardy can be a shy producer), Chicago hardy and similar varieties. These are just some but there are several others. 

Bass

Pino,
no fig will survive in our zone without protection ,  6a is much colder that zone 6.I have tried so many different varieties with minimum protection ,and always being very disappoiment ,I store all my figs in a detached garage and cover them very well with old blankets ecc.but some years many dont make it,do the prolonged cold days that we have in zone 6a.Ciao

Giuseppe

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