pitangadiego
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San Diego, Similar to or same as Violette de Bordeaux. Probably have been interchanged frequently. Excellent flavor and sweetness, Skin tends to be a little tougher than most, esp. if grown in low humidity. Very concentrated flavor if it begins to dehydrate just a bit.
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I hear these are great for potted culture. Do you agree? I planted one in the ground this year, and I have several in 1 gallon pots that will probably stay in pots.
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I still have never tried them yet, hopefully next summer, the couple I have are just now putting out some very small figglets but they probably won't ripen.
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I still want one... :(
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pitangadiego
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I have seen some that stayed relatively small and others that were complete growth monsters.
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Originally Posted by pitangadiego I have seen some that stayed relatively small and others that were complete growth monsters.
I like 'em on the bigger side! :)
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uh huh... Have you ever had a fig go from this cute lil' one gallon plant to...FEED ME SEYMOUR!! My trees got a day with the saws come winter.
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Thanks for the pictures I should get to try it next yr. sadly not this year though. goss
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Ulster, New York, Zone 6. My tree was labeled as Violet de Bordeaux / Negronne. Pictured are my container grown VDB / Negronne, although this summer has been cool, overcast and rainy (night low temperatures have been in the 50's for the past 3 weeks), I'm only a few days away from harvesting a few ripe figs. The larger plant is 2 years old, in a 5 gallon bucket in a modified 5-1-1 potting mix, has put on over 8 linear feet of growth and set over 4 dozen figs, most are currently at the stagnant stage. The smaller plant is a sucker that was separated from the larger tree this past spring, it has put on 5 linear feet of growth and I'm currently pinching figlets weekly. It is a visibly much healthier tree than its mother, hopefully it will be as prolific. The VDB / Negronne is currently one of my most productive fig cultivars. I had to pick the first figs a few days early, something (flying insect, not Ants) has started to eat the skin on one of the figs. I will be providing protection in the future.Inline image
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Beautiful trees, Pete. Thanks for posting.
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here is my Negronne ( a month ago photo) and they will probably ripen nexy week.
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I Picked this VDB / Negronne today after patiently waiting an extra day, It tuned out to be the second best fig cultivar that I have tasted this season and several more are right behind. It was sweet, complex flavor including hints of berry, chewy grape like skin and very pleasant seed crunch (small seeds). I was surprised by the concentrated flavor, even though it was not shriveled and partially dried. The figs that were picked earlier (8/28/13) do not even compare in taste, because they weren't ripe.
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when weather condition is right, an amazing fig. but when it rains days on end... flavor bleeds.
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can anyone send me cuttings of negronne or marseilles vs, my cuttings of two months ago fizzled out. Thanks mates. I am in Southern California, I will pay postage? God Bless
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all mine are breaking bud. maybe next yr.
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Those sure look good right now Jon with possible snow and all coming.
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can you spare 1 or 2 tips even if breaking bud?
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Here s my Negronne fig pic. Bought this past spring from Bay Flora. Arrived about 3 feet tall 1/2 inch thick trunk. Grew to about 7 feet by the end of August and gave out 6 awesome but very late figs.
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Mine was a bit too young this year, but definitely sounds like something to look forward to. Maybe next year. Beautiful pictures!
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My Violet de Bordeaux is one of my favorite figs. I have grown it in ground for about 4 years. The tree is about 13 ft tall and maybe 8 or 9 ft wide. the best flavor is when it is very ripe even soft and borderline starting to get a little mushy. I have it planted in front over by my split rail fence. I stand up there with my neighbor and chit chat when they are getting ripe as we eat the figs right off the tree. Almost like eating fig preserves !!! Fantastic !!! Border of Zone 8A & 7B Hoover, Alabama
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Originally Posted by TideFan My Violet de Bordeaux is one of my favorite figs. I have grown it in ground for about 4 years. The tree is about 13 ft tall and maybe 8 or 9 ft wide. the best flavor is when it is very ripe even soft and borderline starting to get a little mushy. I have it planted in front over by my split rail fence. I stand up there with my neighbor and chit chat when they are getting ripe as we eat the figs right off the tree. Almost like eating fig preserves !!! Fantastic !!! Border of Zone 8A & 7B Hoover, Alabama
Hey TideFan, how does the VdB do in your heat? I am right on the same line in Central Arkansas. I have heard that VdB does not like the scorching heat here in the south. I was thinking about planting mine in a spot that has afternoon shade.
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This is my Negronne's 4th year. The first year it was small and produced one mealy fig. The second year, I had moved the plant to a new location where it was much happier, and it grew like crazy. It put on quite a few plump very good black fits, better than Black Mission. That following winter was a really harsh one and killed it back to the ground. It came back up and once again only produced one or two very mealy little figs. This year it's growing like gang busters again and has lots of little main crop figs on it. So we shall see. I suspect it will be a very good fig once it sorts out our climate and gets some size to it. God bless. Marcus
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I have a Petite Negra (said to be the same as VdB) coming from figtrees.net next week. It, along with it's Italian Honey traveling companion, will be my first foray into growing figs. I am excited!
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I have both a Vdb and Negronne. Both started from cuttings last year, both overwintered in the shed. They are now in 5 gal pots. The Negronne is growing a little stronger of the two, and the figlets came on about a week earlier. I can't wait to try them both this year.
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Now we are starting the 2016 season and Negrone is putting out and has breva figlits on it. Last year the figs were great. They are way better if you pick them a little over ripe unless its really wet which it is here a lot during August. This one seems to start ripening figs latter than my other plants but last year it continuously produced figs right up until frost forced it into dormancy in November. God bless. Marcus
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