Paully
I may have only a greenish thumb with really healthy green plants but this has been frustrating me because my other plants did not want to shed off the leaves (while dieseler in another zone 5 has already tucked away his plants). Most plants had deep green plants and the 28F~30F at nights for a week or more could not make them drop the leaves. Probably the rain water helped maintain the leaves. However, a good 25F last night with frost helped drop half of the leaves and the rest are probably just hanging loose waiting for a little gust of wind