Anyone heard or seen photos of these varieties from spain?

negra de Murcia) Strong Black , grated flavored honey
(Iñoral temprana), heavy cream, grated, flavored honey
(ñoral tardia), cream, grated, flavored honey
(Rojeta), Brown-cream, grated,very much honey
(Blanca murciana), green fat
(verdal), Strong green, grated,flavored honey
(morucha), Black, grated,flavored honey
(napolitana negra), Strong Black, very large,grated flavored honey
(napolitana blanca), light green, grated, flavored honey
(pellejo de toro), Black fat, flavored honey
(gordal), clear red, very large, flavored honey
(Gronula), cream, big long, flavored honey
(Martinenca), light cream, fat long
(troncal), Brown big long, flavored honey
(oral), Black fat, flavored honey
(Colar), Strong Black, fat long, flavored honey
(Cul de Ruc), Black, long, flavored honey
(negra de Mesegar), Black,big long, flavored honey
(Florancha), Black, long, flavored honey
(pajarera, cream), median much honey
(cuello de dama murciana), black, long
carabassera: similar to panachee
planera
huevo de toro
jeronimo

Verdal is a common one in the fig variety database. 

Spanish is my 2nd language, and Spain is possibly my favorite country on the planet, some place I would love to move some day.  I want to share with you some of the words above that translate to english, and some Spanish history that may help. 

Of course, 'negra' is black, 'blanca' is white.

Temprana = early, Tardia = late.

Cuello de dama Murciana = (in French) Murcian 'col de dame' = Very possible it's the same or a sibling/relative to the variety we know as Col De Dame ("neck of the lady"), which is also in the F4F variety database (also, see Axier post farther down for Coll de Dama reference)

Murcia is a city near Barcelona in southeastern Spain, some folks speak Catalan there instead of Spanish, so direct translation using a Babelfish won't handle the translation.  Anyways, Murcia is a place, and "murciana" as used above designates "Murcian" or "of Murcia".

pellejo de toro = "bull's skin"

napolitana = Neapolitan

troncal = main

pajar = "Barn", parajo="bird".  adding era suggests prefix "one who does" or "one of" or "one for", is the best way I can explain.  again, see Axier's post a few down from here.

huevo de toro = "bull egg", probably a black ovular big fig about the size of an egg.

jeronimo = Hieronymite ("a hermit").  this is important because of all of the Iberian hermits in Spain (and Portugal) from the 1300's forward.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymites

Because I am poor with Catalan, there may be other obvious relationships or words I am missing from your lists.  I have a distant (but good) friend living just outside Barcelona, and can ask her if these names mean anything to her.  It may reveal some other relationships to named figs here, such as the 'col de dame' relationship I mentioned above.


Also, just to give you more to run with, here is a longer list of Spanish figs:
http://www.diclib.com/cgi-bin/d1.cgi?l=en&base=flowers_es&page=showid&id=9723

Note that
'higo' = fig
'higuera' = fig tree

I do not know the difference between ñoral, iñoral, añoral and eñoral, but these are all prefixes used before some figs.

Hope this helps more than confuses!

Thanks for the translation.
I understand some Spanish, been to Spain a couple times before my addiction problem (with figs)I love the country.
Here's a link of the figs of the catalan country. For those of you that not familiar with this site.figs of catalan

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variedades locales de higuera de la Sierra de la Contraviesa

http://www.cifaed.es/downloader.php?path=archivos/publicaciones/&nomrecurso=HIGOS_A_120.pdf

Been saving this link for a rainy day.

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Very interesting,
Mucho gracias

Bass,
I love that pic of that fat/old/knobbed/gnarled cut-down fig tree trunk, but STILL surviving; figs ARE real tough!

The ultimate drastic pruning that I have ever seen;
- caution! - think twice before trying this at home...

Bass heres another link I had saved from figs from the Canary Islands of Spain.

http://www.rinconesdelatlantico.com/num3/35_higueras.html

I had allot more of figs of other parts of spain but that was on my other computer. Majorca Island of spain also has allot of different varieties.

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Wow - there is some very interesting material being posted today by several folks. Thanks for sharing your findings. It is very good to see this information - material that is generally very difficult to find due to language issues.

Thanks!
Ingevald

Gorgi,
I've only seen this drastically pruned tree dune on Olive trees, but I would think someone was trying to kill that fig tree.

Nelson,
Thanks for that info on the Canary island fig, I spent time in Gran Canaria, the largest island and been to almost every spot on the island, I only saw one or two fig trees. It is a very dry island with lots of cactus. But the other islands may have more vegetation.

Is there a way to translate those PDF's to English for those of us who don't speak fluent Spanish?

-Pequeno Juan

Bass, the figs are cultivated in Spain since time out of mind and the nomenclature is a very crazy thing. Many times the same fig has a different name in each village, and other many times the same name is used for different figs. Really a craziness!

Spain is an small country, from North to South 1000 Kms, but is a very contrasted country. There are 4 languages; Spanish, Catalan, Galician and  Basque. Despite the small size, the climate is very different from ones regions to others. For example, I live in the Basque country, in the North coast of Spain. Here the climate is cloudy, rainy and mild (no hot in summer, no cold in winter), the center of Spain is dry, cold in winter and hot in summer. The South is dry, very hot in summer and very mild winters, and finally, the Mediterranean region (Murcia is in the Mediterranean coast), one of the best region for figs, sunny and no so hot like the south.

Jason, good explanation, but I have to do some clarifications. I hope don't be bothered by it.

Currently, Murcia is not a Catalan province, and only a very few villages of the North of Murcia know and speak Catalan, due to Alicante province proximity (in Alicante the people know and speak Catalan).

Murcia has a very sunny and dry climate, good for figs, like many other provinces in Spain.

Regarding the fig names, "Pajarera" derives from "pájaro" = bird, not from "pajar"=barn. "Pajarera" could be "a tree which attracts to birds", In my opinion all fig trees are "pajareros" :-)).

"Cuello de dama"="Col de dame"="Coll de Dama".

"Fig" in Spanish is "higo" not "hige".

Nelson, as you say, Majorca island is a very good place for figs, better than Canary islands. There are a lot of fig varieties in Majorca, some are good native varieties.

Another very interesting thread, thanks bass. Spain is rich with fig varieties. Some very good ones as well. I don't have any Spanish at all. I may look into getting a couple Spaniards for my collection. ciao

Hey Axier do you know where one could find a list of figs that Montserrat Pons grown in Majorca ?

I am sorry Nelson, but I don't know where you can find that list.
I know that he has hundred of varieties in his big orchard but I don't know what varieties.
I have been several times to Majorca but I don't know her orchard.

Hey Nelson, you may find this small gallery fun to look at: http://www.photoshelter.com/c/obcn/gallery/the-father-of-figs/G0000zlAAjgnjbBo/

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There are also some nice pictures of figs starting at the main gallery: http://www.photoshelter.com/c/obcn

Also, have you access to a copy of "Les figueres a les Illes Balears"? (Montserrat, "The figs of the Balearic Islands").  Maybe there will be at least a partial list here. 

Oh, and Axier, thanks for the clarifications, these are very necessary.  I will modify my post to point to yours.

'hige' was a typo.
'parajo' - this should have been obvious to me, but i forget that barn and bird are only one letter difference. ;)
please forgive my ignorance of Murcia ("murthya"), this is one place i have not been.

Are you of Spain, or simply in love with it as I am?

Axier lives in Spain and is a Spanish native. Search his name on the other forum and you can see some real interesting posts that he's made. His collection is amazing!

-Little John 

Thanks for your compliments Little John, but unfortunately my collection is only modest. I don't have much place for figs in my small orchard.
Regarding my posts, thanks to many wise people in this and GW forum I have learned a lot, but I have many things to learn yet!

Jason, Ñora is a Murcia village. Ñoral= "from Ñora", the other words are deformations of the Ñoral word.

Thanks Jason how the hell you find these?

I tried to find an e-book or electronic version of his book, but I am lost after many hours of searching.  I found some other things that may be of interest - you will need to use Google translator to read them, the translations from that tool are a bit poor, but they give you a good idea.  I feel like there is some good information to mine in these links, and they will give you a great view into the man, the region, the history.

An article about Montserrat and his estate and fig trees:
http://www.diariodemallorca.es/secciones/noticia.jsp%3FpRef%3D2009061700_3_475165__Part-Forana-guru-higueras

Here are some pictures of figs, including Martinenc, and some others which are numbered:
http://www.diariodemallorca.es/multimedia/imagenes.jsp?pRef=2009061700_3_475165__Part-Forana-guru-higueras

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Interesting flyer with some descriptions and names of figs:
Primary link: http://www.pocapoc.net/pdfsgt/fruiters.pdf
Alternate link: http://slowfoodib.org/pdf/fruiters-dun-temps09.pdf

Another article from recent times that was interesting, tells of the number of varieties he has, how many are native, etc. but doesn't name any:
http://www.mallorcactual.com/cultura_06_higos.htm

Here are some of the varieties that Montserrat pons have in the island of Mallorca.

1.        Abaldufada rimada                           Miner ,Llucmajor, Mallorca.

2.        Alacantina                                        Son Saleta, Llucmajor, Mallorca

3.        Alacantina forestera                          Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

4.        Alacantina negra                               Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca

5.        Albacor  blanca                                 Ses Comes , Llucmajor, Mallorca.

6.        Albacor                                             Son Peixet, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

7.        Albacor comuna                                Es Palmer, Campos, Mallorca.

8.        Albacor de molla blanca                   Sant Llorenç d’es Cardessar, Mallorca

9.        Albacor de molla de meló                Manacor , Mallorca

10.    Albacor de molla vermella               Sant Llorenç d’es Cardesar, Mallorca

11.    Alcudia                                              Eivissa

12.    Alenyana                                           Santuari de Cura, Algaida,Mallorca.

13.    Algerina blanca                                 Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

14.    Algerina                                            Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca

15.    Andreva                                             Es Mongos, Porreres, Mallorca

16.    Balafi                                                Sant Llorenç d’es Cadessar, Mallorca

17.    Banyols                                             Alaró, Mallorca.

18.    Beat Ramon                                      Manacor, Mallorca

19.    Bec de perdiu                                   Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor , Mallorca

20.    Bel Coll                                            Ses Planes de son Hereu, Llucmajor,Mallorca.

21.    Beltrana                                             Na Beltrana. Mallorca

22.    Bergunya                                          Banyalbufar.Mallor

23.    Bermesca                                          Campos, Mallorca

24.    Bielona                                              Santa Margalida. Mallorca.

25.    Blanca                                               Eivissa.

26.    Blanques                                           Mahó, Menorca                                             

27.    Blanca clara                                      Sa Barrala, Campos , Mallorca

28.    Blanca poma                                     Eivissa.

29.    Blanca rimada                                  Ses Cadenes , Mallorca

30.    Blancaflor                                         Santa Eugenia, Mallorca

31.    Blanquella                                        Algaida.Mallorca

32.    Blava -flor-                                       Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

33.    Blava - campanera-                          C’an Terriga, Campos, Mallorca

34.    Bleveta 1                                           Llucmajor, Mallorca

35.    Bleveta  2                                          Sant Llorenç d’es Cardessar, Mallorca.

36.    Bonjesusa                                          Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

37.    Borda de ses Rotes                            Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor , Mallorca.

38.    Borda d’en Miralles                          Algaida, Mallorca.

39.    Borda Barraquer                                Llubi, Mallorca

40.    Bordissot blanca                                Son Saleta, Llucmajor ,Mallorca

41.    Bordissot blanca-negra                      Son Fonoll, Campos, Mallorca

42.    Bordissot blanca rimada                    Ses Comes, Llucmajor, Mallorca. 

43.    Bordissot negra                                  Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

44.    Bordissot  negra de coll llarg             Can Barraquer, Llubi, Mallorca.

45.    Bordissot negra rimada                      Sant Llorens d’es Cardessar, Mallorca.

46.    Bordissot rossa                                   Ca l’Oro, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

47.    Bordissot verda                                  Son Peixet, Llucmajor, Mallorca

48.    Botanda                                              Son Banyeres, Porreres, Mallorca.

49.    Brocalet                                              Lloret de Vista Alegre, Mallorca

50.    Buscareta                                            C’as Concos, Mallorca.

51.    Butilenca                                             Perola, Llucmajor, Mallorca

52.    Calderona                                            Es Rafal , Llucmajor, Mallorca

53.    Calderona de Miner                            Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

54.    Cameta                                                Formentera.

55.    Capoll curt                                           C’as toro. Llucmajor.Mallorca

56.    Capoll curt negra                                 Ses Comes, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

57.    Capoll  llarg                                        Es Jornets, Sencelles, Mallorca.

58.    Capona                                                Llucmajor. Mallorca.

59.    Carabasseta                                        Ses Comes, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

60.    Carabasseta-2                                     Sa Bassa Crua, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

61.    Carlina                                                Son Peixet,Llucmajor Mallorca

62.    Carlina negra                                      Can  Reviu. Llucmajor, Mallorca

63.    Catalana.                                             Menorca.

64.    Coa                                                     Eivissa.

65.    Coll de dama blanca                           Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor,  Mallorca.

66.   Coll de dama blanca-negra                  Sa Bugaderia, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

67.   Coll de dama bordissotenca                Sa Torre de  Montornes,Sineu,Mallorca.

68.   Coll de dama de Ciutat                        Son Creixell, Sineu, Mallorca

69.   Coll de dama  negra                             Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca

70.   Coll de dama roja                                 Ses Comes, Llucmajor , Mallorca.

71.   Coll de dama pintada                           Font Garrover, Mancor de la Vall, Mallorca.

72.   Coll de dama rossa                              Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor.Mallorca

73.   Coll de dama gigantina                       Campos, Mallorca

74.   Coll de dama tardana                          Arta, Mallorca

75.   Comandantes.                                      Manacor, Mallorca

76.   Consellera blanca                                Consell, Mallorca

77.   Consellera vermella                            Consell, Mallorca.

78.   Coll de frare                                        Manacor, Mallorca.

79.   Cosme  Manyo                                    Buniferri, Llucmajor, Mallorca

80.  Cordovet.                                              Santany, Mallorca.

81.   Cucurella                                             Can Reviu, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

82.   Cuiro de bou                                        Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

83.   Cul d’ase.                                             Son Mut Nou, Mallorca.

Here's more:

1.       Cul d’ase.                                             Son Mut Nou, Mallorca.

2.       De bou                                                 Alacanti, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

3.       De ca                                                    Son Massiá, Mallorca.

4.       De Cabrera                                           Es lloquet. Campos .Mallorca.

5.       D’en Vicens Vaquer                            Can Pontá, Llucmajor , Mallorca.

6.       De Capocorp d’en Munar                    Capocorp, Llucmajor, Mallorca

7.       D’en Peregran                                      Can Pere Gran, Cas Concos, Mallorca.

8.       De Gra.                                                Alcudia, Mallorca.

9.       De la agulla                                          Sa Barrala, Campos, Mallorca.

10.   De la caseta                                          Pollença, Mallorca

11.   De la galta                                           Can  Lluc , Sencelles, Mallorca

12.   De la gloria                                          Son Bordils, Inca, Mallorca.

13.   De la llei                                              Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

14.   De la plata                                           Sa Bastida, Sant Joan, Mallorca.

15.   De la plata -2                                       Sa Barrala, Campos, Mallorca

16.   De la penya                                          Punxuat, Algaida, Mallorca

17.   De la pera blanca                                 Costix, Mallorca.

18.   De la pera negra                                   Costix, Mallorca.                                      

100. De la reina                                            Son Barnadás, Orient, Mallorca                                                         

101. De la roca                                            Son Peixet, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

102.     De la senyora                                  Son Fosquet, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

103.     De la senyora -sineuera-                 C’an Barraquer, Llubi, Mallorca.

104.     De la tira                                         Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca

105.     De l´Empordá                                 Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

106.     De n´Amorós                                  Cugulutx, Llucmajor, Mallorca

107.     De na Perot                                     Campos, Mallorca.

108.     D´en bota                                        Ses Valentines, Santany, Mallorca

109.     D´en Conquet                                  Son Hereu.Llucmajor, Mallorca.

110.     D´en Jaume Punta                          Son Toni Amer, Campos,Mallorca

111.     De  sa cova                                     Sa Cova, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

112.     De s´avenc                                      Ses Comes,Llucmajor, Mallorca.

112. De Sant Joan de Deu                           Cala Estancia, Mallorca

113.De sant Antoni  de juny                        Sineu. Mallorca

114. De Ses Rotes.                                       Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

115. De son Quartera                                  Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

116. De tres esplets                                     Es Palmer, Campos, Mallorca.

117. Dels ermitans                                      Can Segui, Pollença, Mallorca.

118. Del Bisbe.                                            Sineu. Mallorca

119. Del Sant Cristo                                    Campanet. Mallorca

120. Del Cor.                                               Montuiri. Mallorca.

121. D´en Manel                                         Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

122. D´en Pieres                                         Son Noguera, Llucmajor, Mallorca

123.D’es Faro.                                            Cala Figuera.Mallorca.

124. Des Cós                                               Es Cos, Sineu,Mallorca.

125. Des Marques                                       Santa Eugenia.Mallorca

126. Des Soldat                                           Marratxi. Mallorca

127. Des Vicari.                                          Marratxi. Mallorca

128. De l’Ofre                                             L’Ofre, Mallorca

129. De sa punta                                         Ses Comes , Llucmajor , Mallorca

130. De cul de covo                                    Santany, Mallorca.

131.  De les Miraies                                    Montuiri, Mallorca

132. De les olletes                                       Jornets, Sencelles.Mallorca

133. Del sen Jaume Gran                            Manacor, Mallorca

134. Dolça                                                   Santany, Mallorca.

135. Fina.                                                     Santany. Mallorca.

136. Flor blanca                                           S’Aranjasa, Mallorca.

137. Francesa                                              Menorca

138. Forastera                                             Lloret, Mallorca.

139. Forastera de C´an Reviu                     Cugulutx, Llucmajor, Mallorca

140. Giganta                                               Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

141. Gota de mel                                        Santa Eugenia, Mallorca.

142. Granadina                                           Es palmer, Campos, Mallorca

143. Groga tardana                                     Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

144. Hivernenca                                         Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

145. Hivernenca blanca                              Inca, Mallorca.

146 Hivernenca de Sant Sebastiá               Torrent de Biniaraix.Soller, Mallorca

147. Hortella                                               Llucamet, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

148.. Jorba                                                   Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

149. Julia                                                    Eivissa

150. Lloral                                                  Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

151. Lloral -2 .                                            Eivissa

152. Llimonenca                                         C’as Toro, Llucmajor, Mallorca

153. Llubinera                                             Llubi, Mallorca.

154. Maella                                                 Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

155 Manresa                                              Son Trobat, Algaida, Mallorca

156. Manresa llucmajorera                         Ses Comes, Llucmajor, Mallorca

157. Mare de Deu                                       Son Buit,Sencelles , Mallorca.

158. Marjalera                                             Consell, Mallorca

159. Martina                                               Lloret, Mallorca

160. Martinenca                                          Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

166. Martinenca blanca                              Son Noguera, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

167. Martinenca de Miner                          Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

168. Martinenca rimada                             Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

169. Masclenya                                         Manacor, Mallorca.

170. Mata-soldats                                      Son  Bernat, Randa, Mallorca

171. Menorca SC                                       Menorca

172. Miralla                                               Alicantí, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

173. Mig- paratjal                                     Son Rengo, Campos, Mallorca.

174. Moellada                                           Montuiri , Mallorca.

175. Molondre                                           Sa Barrala, Campos, Mallorca.

176. Molondre blanca                                S’Hort d’en Blanc, Campos, Mallorca.

177. Molla vermella                                  Son Granada, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

178. Morisca                                              Perola, Llucmajor, Mallorca

179. Morisca-2                                           Eivissa.

180. Morro de bou                                     Mallorca.

181. Napolitana blanca                              Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

182. Napolitana negra                                Son Hereu, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

183. Negra primerenca                               Santa Eugenia. Mallorca

184. Negreta.                                             Menorca.

185.  Orihola                                              Eivissa

186. Pel de bou                                         Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

187. Peluda                                               Artà, Mallorca.

188. Paratjal                                              Son Saleta, Llucmajor, Mallorca

189. Paratjal negra                                    Pollença, Mallorca.

190. Paratjal rimada                                  Son Peixet, Llucmajor, Mallorca

191. Paratjalina                                          Son Oliver, Campos, Mallorca

192. Pic de morena                                    Eivissa

193. Pollencina                                          Pollença, Mallorca

194. Porquenca                                          Porreres, Mallorca

195.  Porquenca blanca                              Campos, Mallorca

196. Porquenca mascle                             Son Barbut, Campos, Mallorca

197. Porquenca negra                                Petra, Mallorca

198. Porral                                                 Eivissa

199. Pota de cavall                                    Montuiri, Mallorca.

200. Ramona                                            Manacor, Mallorca

201 Renyeca                                           Son Quartera, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

202. Roja-flor-                                        Son Saleta, Llucmajor, Mallorca

203. Roja del rey Sancho                        Es Teix, Soller, Mallorca

204. Roja d’en Bardina                            Son Granada. Llucmajor

205. Rogisca                                            Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

206. Santmartina                                      Cami vell de Sineu. Lloret,Mallorca

207. Set cotnes                                         Es Palmer. Campos, Mallorca.

208. Sana                                                  Eivissa

209. Savallina                                           S’avall, Ses Salines, Mallorca.

210. Sarda                                                 Son  Grananda, Llucmajor, Mallorca

211  Sarrona                                              Son MuT Nou, Llucmajor, Mallorca.

212. Sejola                                                Calviá, Mallorca.

213. Sitcelis                                               Son Namora Vell, Algaida, Mallorca  

214. Tiá Penya.                                          Can Barraquer. Llubi.Mallorca.

215. Tófoles                                              Na Tofola, Campos, Mallorca.

216. Torrentella                                        Son Reus, Algaida, Mallorca

217. Turca                                                 Son Llobet , Algaida. Mallorca

218. Ull de perdiu                                     Son Noguera, Llucmajor, Mallorca

219. Ull de perdiu .Miner                         Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

220. Vacal                                                 Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

221. Verdal                                               Son Saleta, Llucmajor, Mallorca

222. Verdal d´Oriola                                 Campanet, Mallorca                              

223. Verdal negra                                      Ses Pedreres, Llucmajor , Mallorca

224. Verdal siciliana                                  Son Mut Nou, Llucmajor

225. Verdeleta                                           Puig de Ros, Llucmajor, Mallorca

226. Victoria                                             Miner, Llucmajor, Mallorca

226. Xereca                                               Menorca.

Hmmm, this sounds interesting - is it black, white or speckled?  ;)  ... "Coll de dama blanca-negra"