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Figgysid1

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No problem, it's more interesting that Violeta different than the same. Look forward to seeing his conclusions, good luck with your tree, be sure to post when it fruits.
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Thanks, i will.

And i am curious about the fig size they can reach over here (with less heat than Algarve and no wasp). Apparently it's another (not so small) difference for this variety -  in the regions with the wasp they get big reaching 90/100 gr.
Being such a prolific variety maybe i can see for myself next year (my grafts are growing very well and have almost no FMV in the new leaves).


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Controlling the amount of water appears to help when it comes to splitting. During the past two days, I picked a couple of figs from my second leaf tree in pot that were perfect. The figs continue to ripen despite the fact that most leaves have dropped. Perhaps my tree leaves dropped too early, due to reduced watering. Has anyone experienced this with his Preto?



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Sas,

Yes, I've experienced the exact same thing.  Leaves will start to shed, but figs will continue to ripen.
I've moved my potted Preto into the greenhouse to get more heat, hoping to ripen the remaining 15-20 figs.  I've eaten about 5 figs from that tree so far.
I let my 7 year old try Preto for the first time yesterday.  Her reaction was priceless.  She knew it was a different kind of fig, compared to the traditional fig flavors.

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It is still fairly warm over here in the 80's during the day and my other Black Madeira is still totally green receiving the same amount of water. I just thought to check. Thanks for your reply.
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Preto's a rust magnet,I'm probably going to start spraying them next year.I'm in the process of removing all leaf and putting them to sleep,
I probably pulled 5 gallons of greenish fruit for the worms in the last couple of days.I've left the figs that should ripen on the tree's but the
raccoons usually add injury to insult,all the ripening fruit is out on the tips,their weight breaks the branches.

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Beautiful tree and fruit Paul. How do you keep the birds away?
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Your tree looks awesome! Well done!
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Conrad,birds have not been a major issue for me.The Metallic Green Fig Beetle does more damage to the fruit than birds,rats,possum,raccoons combined.

https://www.google.com/search?q=metallic+green+fig+beetle&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwja2t7ztMXPAhUs2oMKHW63DQkQsAQIaw&biw=1280&bih=884

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I got ten figs off the Preto trees you sent me this week.  It has been raining for three weeks, almost continuously, 1-6 inches of rain a day.  So.. some did split.  But the ones that did not split out in the rain were extremely intense flavored.  Much better tasting than any of the ones I got off my first Preto in the greenhouse.  The flavor increased by about 40%, stronger berry flavor, darker red color, denser fruits, more syrupy, outdoors, even with all the rain.  I think the greenhouse cover blocks to much sunlight and that is what makes the difference in flavor.

 They were all large figs as well, 70-90 grams.  Here is a pic of them.  Thanks again Paul, my favorite fig in my collection by far.  :) 

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@Figgysid1 Beautiful! The pics say so much! My imagination almost lets me taste it based on the luscious interior....
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Geez Sid,really nice looking fruit.Particularly that one at 02:30.Very thin pulp yet
luscious interior,no way I could bring that in with my climate.

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I got ten figs off the Preto trees you sent me this week.  It has been raining for three weeks, almost continuously, 1-6 inches of rain a day.  So.. some did split.  But the ones that did not split out in the rain were extremely intense flavored.  Much better tasting than any of the ones I got off my first Preto in the greenhouse.  The flavor increased by about 40%, stronger berry flavor, darker red color, denser fruits, more syrupy, outdoors, even with all the rain.  I think the greenhouse cover blocks to much sunlight and that is what makes the difference in flavor.

 They were all large figs as well, 70-90 grams.  Here is a pic of them.  Thanks again Paul, my favorite fig in my collection by far.  :) 

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Congratulations!
These are very nice figs
I wonder how did you manage to get fruit with a different profile?!
Typical Preto and its cousins are :  shallow flat tops - thick necks - when ripe a rim separates pulp from flesh across the neck - eye bracks (scales) have an undefined color (light brown)...
Generally speaking they are average size fruit (around to 40 to 50gr) but exceptional fertigation may put them close to the 90/100 gr...
Could you show  one or two full fruits ??

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Paul, thanks for the pictures and everyone for the posts. My two Figo Preto trees are my favorites this season as well: the best flavored, among the larger sizes and also the most productive. As you mentioned, they are the raccoons' favorite as well. Organza bags protect the fruit from the birds but the raccoons just pull off the fruit in the bags, mash them a few times, and drop them bag and all. The raccoons seem to ignore parts of my yard so I will be trying one of the trees in a pot there. If that doesn't work, I'll cage the trees. They're that good.  
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Preto from Tyro. Going to be eating this one soon.

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@Lampo: I don't have any ripe ones right now. Here is a picture of a typical shaped/size Preto fig at the stagnant stage. They usually increase in size by 3x when fully ripe. I also posted a picture of two of my trees in 25 gal pots on the previous page of this thread.

A few links to my Preto from my other tree.

Smallest Preto figs 61-63 grams.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/3004195

Bigger one 87 grams, with tennis ball for scale.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/2934022

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Well...time to move to zone 12...
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Those are monsters!
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Wow! What Brian said... but even louder... THOSE ARE MONSTERS!
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Those are gorgeous
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@Lampo: I don't have any ripe ones right now. Here is a picture of a typical shaped/size Preto fig at the stagnant stage. They usually increase in size by 3x when fully ripe. I also posted a picture of two of my trees in 25 gal pots on the previous page of this thread. A few links to my Preto from my other tree. Smallest Preto figs 61-63 grams. https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/3004195 Bigger one 87 grams, with tennis ball for scale. https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/2934022 https://s3.amazonaws.com/files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/2934023


Figgysid1

Thank you very much
These last few pictures you show, would not need any ID to be immediately connected to that cultivar
On the other hand the initial cutaways, the way they were presented (and with no ID) , .. I would never think, even remotely to belong to a Preto .

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such an amazing tree, stunning really
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This past winter, I moved my unprotected Preto to a 25g container when it was dormant. For a minute it looked like it's a goner.
Here's how it managed to come back today:






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@sas Now that looks like a happy fig. Glad it is on the mend.
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Thanks Wendy. Should be interesting to see if it'll bare fruit this season.
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@Tyro- beautiful Preto fig tree and lovely photos of the fruits.
The rest of you guys that are growing Pretos, nice work and keep the photos and updates coming.

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@Sas
Sorry to see you lost so much wood on your tree,did it die back to ground level?
Quite the difference from zone 8b to 9a,the worst I saw was 26 f for 6-7 hours
one night.I had a couple of Preto's that size outside but they saw no damage.
My projected low was supposed to be 38 f,I've given up with giving credence
to projected lows from weather services because the topography in my town varies
so much.That particular night lows ranged from 40f-26f,all within 3 miles from my house.
Clearly I'm in a cold sink.If you can find a micro climate (south or west facing wall tight
to a heated structure)it should help.I still have last years basil in one micro.Do you know
what your low temps were that brought that damage Sas?

@Mahdi
Thanks for the kind words,hope everyone's growing season is off to a good start.

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Hi Paul,

What is interesting is that the Preto was shorter the previous season and the winter was colder than this past one but no wood was lost the previous year.
This year the whole plant above the soil dried up and all the new growth is from beneath the soil. I just lost a five year old in ground tree (different variety) for no apparent reason at all.
It initially sprouted then went into shock.
I've seen temperatures as low as 18F at night before but the damage was not as severe as this year.
There's a chance that since the winter was fairly dry over here that I may have contributed to killing some trees as I did not water as often as I should've perhaps and was away most of March.
Most of my trees are coming back including the inground ones but there was significant damage to some.
Here are some examples:
(All these trees were left unprotected)

See photos:
Five year old Jaune de Gascogne totally dead.







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Black Madeira UCD new growth from beneath ground.



Col de Dame Noir growth from beneath ground.



Cold de Dame Blanc (UCD)



It feels as if someone keeps hitting the rest button on my trees lol.











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So this is how the Preto looks today after removing the dead wood :


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So I guess in Austin's zone 8b Preto still needs winter cover to avoid losing structure.
I noted your previous pic's showed the plant on a raised balcony?

DonCentralTexas also reported losing half his unprotected Preto structure this year at 17f.

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1295058143&postcount=5&forum=0






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My Figo Preto appears to be toast here @ Canyon Lake.

I didn't protect any of my trees this past winter and only the Prito and one Smith did not come out. The Smith was in a five gal bucket.

I have other five gal bucket figs that have sprouted nicely.

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Ouch!Are you sure it's dead?That little guy had a nice wingspan.
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I'm having some issues with yellowing leaves on mine. 
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