Figo Preto Temporão is the first Common fig to ripe in a season..Around here, the first fruit ripen together with the variety Cachopeiro and the Cardinal grapes...second/third week of July
I grade it 'good' but not exceptional. It's a large or above average fig with a black/bluish skin and dark orange pulp...
It is a very old variety. May have other names like Rouge de Bordeaux or Pastillière, Hirta...etc

Francisco

It looks like a nice fig, I think the pastiliere is not as elongated, but probably ripen about the same time.

My Pastilere is from France, maybe same as Baud nursery, and the figs are dropping.
Maybe it needs caprification? 

Francisco, yours were caprified?

Bass,

You may be used to look at that variety as sort of 'oignon' shape like the one on this picture being weighted. You right the majority are like that but there are also same deviations like with all other varieties.

Gelu,

That is a very good question! To be frank I must say that I do not think they were pollinised because when the wasps were fully active and certainly near the figs, these were already well advanced in their ripening process. May be some were!?
What I may do is to put aside a number of seeds, let them dry for a while then clean and check if they float on a small transparent glass of water. If they float, for sure there was no pollination at all...
Otherwise, going to the bottom of the glass, indicates that the seeds are filled with a fertile kernel and the insect did enter that particular fig and did the job.

Francisco

It looks absolutely delicious!

Another great fig you have there Francisco! Love all the pictures and info you share.

Francisco,
Thank you very much for the photos and the information.

Hi Lampo i had Pastiliere but discarded due to most of crop dropping and or only partial ripening.
Yours do look similar in shape and possibly interior but climate here may make them different .
Here is picture of one similar to yours.

Also have Rouge de Bordeaux but no fruit showing this season although tall plant, time will tell .

here are different shapes of the figs for your comparisons not shown are the leaves which i also have pictures and also last fully ripe fig from tree showed a purpleish interior also not shown then tree was destroyed.

It Is the climate that make the fruit drop in many instances,as with Pastiliere.
Also Celeste drops here,and this Summer even Verdal Longue,and Brown Turkey JR,dropped early main crop.
Depending on local conditions some growers will not have any droppings,while others ,loose all fruits.
In the case the climate is the problem,the only remedy,is ,discard it ,just like you did,and grow something more reliable,after all,there is a cultivar for every climate out there.

Tami, Pattee, Mike,

Thank you for your nice commenting of this early Preto.

Martin,

I have always asked myself how do you manage, in your rigorous climate to bring about such nice figs.
Congrats for your Pastillières.
Herman is right, talking of the setbacks of this nice variety, 'climate' is the name of the game and that is soon observed on their drop rate... and, later on, on the texture and color of its pulp.
Pastill., RB, from northern colder areas show considerable rates of fruit dropping but the ones being allowed to grow and mature, have marked reddish pulps

Herman,

This particular variety needs warm Springs and sunny / hot early Summers to mature correctly and be a sweet and flavored fig.
On your remark of the destiny of a non or poor producer tree, I would try first a graft or a couple of them on its stock before sending it to the 'crematory'.. RB is somehow a hardy plant which could make a good combination with some other desirable variety to be introduced..After all some investment was already done and well done grafts on healthy plants will grow rather quickly..I am thinking of, for instance ...BM on RB/Pastill.

Francisco

Beautiful figs, thanks for sharing them.

francisco, 

would it be possible for you to post a pix for a leaf from the tree? i know Pastiliere here in US will drop in most location. hence, i'm trying to figure our what would make it keep the figs. i'm thinking container culture, and drip system. but if possible would like to see your leaf to see if my leaves are similar. mine is sourced from Baud. 

Lampo types - Martin,

I have always asked myself how do you manage, in your rigorous climate to bring about such nice figs.
Congrats for your Pastillières.
Herman is right, talking of the setbacks of this nice variety, 'climate' is the name of the game and that is soon observed on their drop rate... and, later on, on the texture and color of its pulp.
Pastill., RB, from northern colder areas show considerable rates of fruit dropping but the ones being allowed to grow and mature, have marked reddish pulps.


Lampo UcDavis Pastiliere cultivar  i feel and could be wrong is only partially parthenogenic from what i have seen in our yard and not due to climate for it showed main crop right along with many other fig plants here each season and was on time with them in doing so just when the others started there ripening period in August Pastiliere would turn purpleish but no swell and drop, cut open much inside was raw.

The very few i encountered swelled properly along with beautiful color and were exceptional.

I notice you mention RB if you mean Ronde i also grow and it does not drop and the figs are really a treat to eat.

Now I grow Rouge de Bordeaux just no figs this season on 2 year old plant thats proper size for its container.




This i dont recall ever shown cause i dont want to cause heart ache for others if it fails them but hear i show and every bit as excellent as they look in this picture.

UcDavis Pastiliere fig that i never forget darn it.

Bob, Pete, Daniel,

Thank you .I do appreciate all your comments.

Pete, let me show some pics of last season and this includes the leaf.
But leaves under my perspective are not good comparative elements. They add to some conclusions but they are not definitive.

The problem with Pastillière dropping excessively the immature fruit is due to the relative absence of Sun and heat when the plant mostly needs them. Being an early variety the ripening process starts quite early during spring and we know that in some places warmness and Sun are not exactly there at that time.

I would invite members from California Central Valley to tell us about their experience with this variety
I remember reading some Eisen's lines when he visited France in 1901 rating this fig one of his best liking; at that time there was apparently no reference to the failure to ripen

Francisco

Martin,

I appreciate your comments and  views on the reasons for the ripening failure of so many fruit of this cultivar. I have always seen this fig as a full parthenocarpic variety as I mentioned before to another member (rofig) when asked if it needed the help from the insect.

If external pollination is necessary for this fig to ripen, in my opinion, the timing for that process is so tight that it practically invalidates any attempts to make it happen.

It will be interesting to find out, soon, what the fig seeds will do when tested

Note: When I said RB it was Rouge de Bordeaux

Francisco

I volunteer to be a guinea pig on this one.  Someone get me a cutting and I'll grow it in MO.  We have hot Mays (usually) which is when the figs start leafing out.  We don't have the wasp.  in a few years we should know for sure.  :)

francisco, 

the leaf look rather different from Pastiliere Baud i have, but like you said leaf can look different on the figs. from all the post martin has made, Pastiliere supposed to be very good fig, if it will stay on and ripen here in US. temp here in my area, typically, is hot starting march. this yr is rare exception. will see how it turns out here. 

Contrary to what I expected , the test  of the 'Figo Preto' (early black) seeds, revealed that ALL seeds sunk to the bottom of the glass. (see pictures)

Eli's question was very opportune.

This result tells that the figs were certainly caprificated, (involuntary) all their seeds being fertile.
the drop rate being minimal, no more no less than all other figs.
This cultivar's behavior  will be more likely of the Smyrna types.

Francisco

Gelu,

The rate of success for such exercise, in my opinion, and in your climatic zone, will probably be very small. This variety gets to ripe early and very rapidly but needs heat and much sun
One can always try. By early next year I will send some cuttings to you for a trial. I am curious

Remind me as I may forget.

Francisco

Thanks for your kind offer, Francisco!
I will try it but, as you pointed, it may need more heat
than it could have in my climate z6.