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Figs and pomegranates, two great partners!

That's funny! I have the opposite problem. I have pomegranates and no figs because the birds eat them all. Maybe you have to send me some of your figs. Ha ha!

Pomegranates produce best in well drained soil. Someone about 45 minutes away from me planted pomegranate trees in a spot that was not well drained. After 7 years no Growth & no fruit. My trees are planted in well drained soil. In one year my trees were bigger than his after seven years. Well drained is the key.

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As I talk to many people that have come to the United States, I am finding out many people who love figs also love pomegranates. They seem like partners. When you see one, you usually see the other. It seems like when someone brings fig cuttings from their home country to US, usually they have a pomegranate tree in their yard also. I am currently trying different types of pomegranate varieties to see what grows best in Alabama. With that being said, I started a Facebook page to connect other pomegranate growers. https://www.facebook.com/alabamapomegranateassociation/ If you find an heirloom pomegranate while your getting fig cuttings, I would like to get cuttings & try it here? Thanks Shane


Figs and pomegranates make a good combination. The figs have plenty of fruit and no flowers and the pomegranates have plenty of flowers and no fruit.


Peter,

I found a heirloom pomegranate in Greenville Alabama. It had never produced a fruit ever, but it was gorgeous! The flowers were not like normal pomegranate flowers. The flowers were a big carnation like flower. Some varieties are ornamental that do not produce fruit.

I have only 1 pomegranate plant, cultivar: Grenada, and 1 is enough for me....I think  :-)

My figs keep me busy.

But pomegranates are special to me...many great trees in Spain in my life.  

Joe

I picked up cuttings from 3 heirloom pomegranate this week to root. This coming week I be going to a community near Defuniak Springs Florida to get some more heirloom pomegranate cuttings.

I picked up the pomegranate cuttings. The man also give me an heirloom fig that make 2" fruits.

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Great to see someone growing pomegranates!
I love pomegranates wish there was a variety that can grow in Zone 6.


The Russian pomegranates should grow just fine in zone 6, they just don't like humidity.

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I have only 1 pomegranate plant, cultivar: Grenada, and 1 is enough for me....I think  :-)

My figs keep me busy.

But pomegranates are special to me...many great trees in Spain in my life.  

Joe


Joe, does your pomegranate do OK with Georgia humidity? I would love to grow one here in Arkansas, but I was warned they would split.

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The Russian pomegranates should grow just fine in zone 6, they just don't like humidity.
 

I have disagree with you there having grown many of the cold hardy Russian cultivars in zone 7  they don't like single digits. In general even the cold hardy listed ones are not as hardy as figs and don't recover from freeze back as well.

Well, I can't say from personally growing them. But I have seen them growing in post Soviet Central Asia in places where it hits -15C at times. But the air is extremely dry, like 5-10% humidity. So maybe that is the key?

Either way, not looking to argue :-) 

Hello Gene,

A customer of mine brought me a pomegranate from Tajikistan. I saved some seeds & have 32 seedlings growing. What country did you see them in?

We had pomegranates in Southern Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan. All of these are North of Tajikistan. I have also heard of them growing even further north in the Caucus mountain region of southern Russia

Not looking to argue either,  and would love to be proven wrong:) as this summer I planted out inground about 30 cultivars I had sized up a year or 2 in pots. Over the last 2 winters I lost pretty much every one I had in ground. This winter has been a little milder and I tried planting back in less exposed area than I had on a windy open hillside prior.  Hoping if I get a couple winters with lows above 10F maybe they can establish.   I thought last winter all my inground except Kazake were dead and even it was dead to ground, but as I was digging them out in Oct? Salavatski had a shoot just breaking ground after setting there all summer with out breath of life. The other 6 cultivars were dead Here is a couple recent threads on zone 6/7 thoughts on Pomegranates

http://growingfruit.org/t/are-there-any-pomegranates-for-me-7a-6b/4090

http://growingfruit.org/t/mid-atlantic-pomegranate-realities/964

Just found a sweet, soft seeded, red heirloom pomegranate in Jay, Florida. The owner said it produces an average of about 300-400 pomegranates a year. So excited to go back this dormant season and get cuttings. It is amazing how many heirloom pomegranate varieties are out there.

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Shane that's a lot of Pom's.

Do you think it's related to "shari" ? (I have lots of those).

In any case, my crimson sky (Natitski Ranii) is pushing out flowers and it was planted in August of 2015... (I pulled a few flowers off my Austin (syrian), but the CS was in a trade gallon pot from EL, and the Austin in the root choking 4 inch pot...)

Below is All crimson sky, less than 2 years old by the Roman calender:

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Lewi,

This one is different than the ones you mentioned. It's a unique variety. I was told by an lady in her nineties that every home in west Florida had heirloom pomegranate varieties when she was growing up. I think what happened in the 1980's when the temperature hovered around zero Fahrenheit, it killed many of them. The really cold tolerant ones survived. Part of the old way of getting a pomegranate tree was planting a seed. There are a lot of unique varieties out there that differ greatly because of planting pomegranate seeds. I've seen red, pink, golden yellow, and purple heirloom pomegranate varieties. What I am saying is there is more out there than what people think. Because these heirlooms were planted by seed, some of them has adapted to our environment and even built up disease resistance to common problems in the southeastern United States. These heirloom pomegranate varieties are here, we just have to find them before they are lost. Usually most pomegranate varieties do not bear heavy in high humidity, but this heirloom does.

Shane,

The best varieties do need saving...especially those that could produce as much as claimed, and have market appeal (red)...

The heirloom in Jay sounds like a real winner...would love to trial it in the sandhills. My Shari poms are going on a full three years and nary a flower...I know they will one day, but until then....

An academic interest in the Jay heritage pomegranate and maybe "Austin" as well might be enough to start a deep south pomegranate industry.

Lewi,
Sure, this dormant season when I go back to get some cuttings I can get some for you to. In that general area there are quite a few other heirloom varieties around. They are all distinct and different than one another. I guess that proves the variable among seedlings, that is if they came from the same general source. The other varieties I am rooting too also tend to produce well in high humidity. I have another one I found in Allentown that just might be a commercial possibly for the southeast United States. It's large fruited, very sweet, dark red skin, arils are so dark red they stain your hands red, and a heavy producer. Of course, I have not tasted either one yet. I am just going off the descriptions the owners have given me. This fall will be an exciting time to taste both of these heirloom varieties. Even if not a commercial viability, it still is very important to save these heirloom varieties before they are gone because the new generation just buys potted trees and does not plant pomegranate trees by seeds anymore. What got me started is just 10 minutes from my house is an heirloom pomegranate tree that is over 100 years old that has a nice fruit with a fruity taste in Loxley Alabama.

Shane,

Thank you.

You're a generous man to make the offer, shipping and something for your gasoline is on me. I am very intrested in the Jay FL, and Allentown FL pomegranites...

Don't get me wrong...any pomegranate that has survived 30+years of variable weather is valuble...even if just for medicinal value...(the best anti viral juice...better than Sambucus-elderberry IMHO).

As for stain your hands ( face and uniform) red Poms...I have some fun memories better left to face to face discussions. :)

I had a lady contact me last weekend that had a pomegranate that she rooted from an old heirloom years ago. Her rooted tree never bore any fruit, but bloomed a lot. I had her send me pictures of the blooms. Well, weird as it sounds her blooms look like a beautiful carnation type flower like a ornamental pomegranate. The only thing I could come up with is the one limb she rooted from must have been a bud sport.

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Shane,

Thank you.

You're a generous man to make the offer, shipping and something for your gasoline is on me. I am very intrested in the Jay FL, and Allentown FL pomegranites...

Don't get me wrong...any pomegranate that has survived 30+years of variable weather is valuble...even if just for medicinal value...(the best anti viral juice...better than Sambucus-elderberry IMHO).

As for stain your hands ( face and uniform) red Poms...I have some fun memories better left to face to face discussions. :)


Lewi,

Send me a private message address and this coming dormant season we will get you some cuttings.

I just found an unusual heirloom pomegranate 2 weeks ago. I stopped at an old country store in the middle of no where(No town name). The old lady rents out her mother's old home in Evergreen, Alabama that has a pomegranate tree that produces orange fruited sweet pomegranate with soft seeded orange arils. Interesting color!

I like also Fig, Pomegrate, Sibirian Kiwi, Kaki, winterhard Citrus, Asimina Triloba... But it is heavy by so good hard Plant. The most Cuttings in ebay com from the South and they think not for the people in winterhard Klima. So also in normal Plantshops.
So i help me to make winterhard Seedlings.

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I like also Fig, Pomegrate, Sibirian Kiwi, Kaki, winterhard Citrus, Asimina Triloba... But it is heavy by so good hard Plant. The most Cuttings in ebay com from the South and they think not for the people in winterhard Klima. So also in normal Plantshops.
So i help me to make winterhard Seedlings.



Hello Paul,

Where are you located so I can give you some recommendations on winter Hardy varieties?

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I was impressed by the hardiness of the pomegranate tree. I recently saw some trees at the community garden growing behind the beehive.
These trees are not being irrigated and growing almost wild at this point. I took some pictures.

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