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Figs with unmistakable profiles on a healthy tree

3 1/2 year old - 4' young and immaculate tree with fruit of unmistakable profiles.
Ongoing very dry weather will make them to ripen early and be sweeter

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Francisco
Portugal


Exelent pics. Thanks very much for sharing Francisco.

Very nice

Francisco:

Stunning looking figs for sure. I assume they are "fat" because of pollination. What is the variety? And if I got wasps going in my greenhouse what would be the varieties I should try to find?

Thank you for all your wonderful photos and helpful advice!!

Nice figs!

Thank you all for commenting

Steve, these are Violeta figs, IMO the geographically distant brothers of Preto, Black Madeira,... but believed to be genetically very similar or even the same cultivar.
I have to say that I do not think these have  been pollinated.. the reason being that this season, Profichis are  not yet ripe.. Think they still need a week or two to effectively send out their wasp squadrons.
Last season by this day I had hundreds of pollen bearing wasps exiting the potted Caprifigs and pollinating receptive figs of all sorts at will.

To your question on the recommendation for experimenting 'in house' pollination you need to be sure that the figs (Common Smyrna San Pedro) are sufficiently developed and receptive to accept pollination by the time wasps exit the ripe Profichis.
It comes to my mind that you may try the hybrid DFIC0023, Zidi, Bournabat, Marabout/(Smyrna), Calimyrna, Desert King (2nd crop) Dauphine (2nd crop) Ice Crystal, ,... as well as many Common varieties, like Brown Turkey,Blk Mission, Kadota etc.
Suggest you to discuss this with Harvey,  Igor, Sue,.. may be others in Cal. as there is already some years of accumulated experience with pollination in that State involving  a great number of varieties.

Francisco
Portugal

Francisco:

Thank you so much!! I'll look for those varieties and consult as you suggest. My greenhouse climate is similar to inland areas of CA.

Looking great Francisco!!!

Indeed They have the exact shape of Madeira Black and Preto,even tho they are breba.
It can be seen that ,very different than other cultivars,this one has Breba and main crop ,that are very similar in shape.
I see,that this year started very promising for you Francisco,and is going to be a bountiful harvest.
Happy gardening

Hi lampo,
Because you're frost-less that tree is not growing in a frost induced pattern.
For me those figs are main crops, but I could be mistaken of course. I don't have neither violetta nor BM nor Preto ... Since they require a long season, they would probably be useless at my location on a normally cold year.
The reason for that is: Since breba grow on last years wood, there should be a stem above the figs. But there is no wood; The terminal bud is hidden in between the figs .
That is a typical situation for maincrop figs .
Here is a typical display of brebas: (a little pic Just because I like pics :) and hope others do. The tree is an unknown that grows too big for me nevertheless )

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Thanks for sharing.


Thank you all for your comments and kind words

Think I should have said it when presenting those pictures as they may  induce you in error.
Given the timing, and for growers on upper latitudes, one may be inclined to believe that this small cluster of fruit, are brebas.... but they are not!

These are main crop Violeta packed under the apical bud. Violeta does have a tendency to sport this behavior.. they may look like these pics show.  when getting ripe.
The plant structure, the rather short inter-nodal distances, a very dry climate and the absence of pruning on these early years... may create that illusion.



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Thank you four your interest

Francisco
Portugal


  • pako
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Francisco, great pictures!

Could you please compare the ripening time of Violeta vs Col de Dame ?

God bless you!

Saliva..on.

Good question Pako...
Have no  Col de Dame for comparison but what I may say is that according to what I am told,  CdD matures later, by mid September
Violeta shows up earlier.. In their best years it ripens by the 3rd week of July a bit later than Pastilière or Preto Temporão, and goes on through Oct or even November in dry autumns.
Well looked after and with the correct treatment this cultivar shows a good percentage of large fruit well in excess of 60/70 gr.

Francisco
Portugal

Fransisco you can't tease us with these pictures and not show us one cut open! :)

Thank you Nick
I see you like juicy black figs with red insides ...

Here is the introductory picture of Violeta some 3 years ago by the time I joined this forum
Hope it satisfies your curiosity

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On certain seasons, another black cultivar, distinct from Violeta  -(Sofeno Preto)- gives me excellent fruit, as this pair ..

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Both delicious figs, needing a lot of sun and why not to mention - a tiny wasp here and there!

cheers
Francisco
Portugal


Thank you Fransisco! I could enjoy seeing pictures of figs like that all day long!

Excellent thread. Thanks

A few more pictures of  Violeta  - aka Black Madeira or Preto - in their native grounds.



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Francisco
Portugal


Could this fig be a Sofeno Preto or possibly a Violeta?  The tree is in the south of Spain near Malaga; pictures were taken mid-August.  The skin is matte black and I didn't see any with cracks of splits.  Flavor was intense berry.  These Figs were pretty small; maybe golf ball sized on average or even a little smaller.  Now wondering what it was.  It looks a lot like the Sofeno Preto in the pictures above but I don't think the leaves match; the leaves on this tree typically had 3 distinct finger like lobes with shorter "thumbs" on either side.

Thank You!

[Violeta_01]  [Violeta_02]  [Violeta_03]  [Violeta_04]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bent
Could this fig be a Sofeno Preto or possibly a Violeta?  The tree is in the south of Spain near Malaga; pictures were taken mid-August.  The skin is matte black and I didn't see any with cracks of splits.  Flavor was intense berry.  These Figs were pretty small; maybe golf ball sized on average or even a little smaller.  Now wondering what it was.  It looks a lot like the Sofeno Preto in the pictures above but I don't think the leaves match; the leaves on this tree typically had 3 distinct finger like lobes with shorter "thumbs" on either side.

Thank You!

[Violeta_01]  [Violeta_02]  [Violeta_03]  [Violeta_04]


bent,
Thanks for sharing your pictures of those figs from Malaga
I don't think they are  Sof Preto or Violeta.... as you say leaf shapes are much different  as well as profiles and skin/pulp colors do not seem to match.
Believe they probably are one of the various main crop strains of the black Albacors quite popular in that area.

Francisco
Portugal



lol.... I know that we refer to California as "Fig Heaven" but if that is the case then Portugal must be Paradise of another order of magnitude as the quality and variety of beautiful Portuguese figs is truly astounding....

  • Ramv
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@lampo, those are some really beautiful figs!
Any chance these figs are similar or related/same family? 
https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/100817-colonel-littman-s-black-cross-2016

Regards,
--Ram

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramv
@lampo, those are some really beautiful figs!
Any chance these figs are similar or related/same family? 
https://www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/100817-colonel-littman-s-black-cross-2016

Regards,
--Ram



Thank you Ram for showing those very nice dark figs. In fact they show similarities and they may share some genetics..who knows ..
Frankly I do not know ,,, those fig names   -(colonel-littman-s-black-cross)-   are not known here
Seen on another post that Gary may have both (?) and could probably tell us a bit more about this..
Francisco

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