Ive been lurking for a while and figured I better thank all of the people here for the great information they have made available. I'm new to this hobby but already love it. So far all I have are 4 trees but have 4 more ordered for next year. Right now I have RDB, Hardy Chicago, LSU Gold and an unknown from trees of joy. I'm not looking for anything just in case you guys were worried I was going to ask for cuttings or plants, maybe when my trees are larger I will consider trading. Thanks again everyone!