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First Socorro Black

I won one of these from Harvey on E Bay and am very excited about it. It has a bit of FMV but is growing well. The leaves are really crazy looking on the young starts.

JD, Please see below. I dont know how I could have messed up the cuttings but if I did (i only have one set of cuttings out at a time and tripe check), I have a stack of Socorro black cuttings in my refer at home i believe so I can send u some additional ones. Im trying to build an orchard made of this variety. I may even have an extra layer.. Paully, you are right, Socorro is a very hot and dry climate so it does great with figs. JD with your climate I can only imagine. Remind me as I will be heading back to the US in a 1.5 weeks. This looks like my Vasilika Sika, almost spot on or my ABQ1BB or Socorro 4. Both are excellent in taste with the Sika having a red interior and the ABQBB having a pink amber color.

Here are my pics of socorro black:
http://s172.photobucket.com/user/loslunasfarms/library/Socorro%20Fig%203mp;page=1

Vasilika Sika: 
http://s172.photobucket.com/user/loslunasfarms/library/Vasilika%20Sika?sort=3&page=1

ABQ1BB:
http://s172.photobucket.com/user/loslunasfarms/library/Albuquerque%20Uknown%201%20BB%20Fig

Socorro 4
http://s172.photobucket.com/user/loslunasfarms/library/Socorro%20Fig%204?sort=6&page=1



James, Im in and out of the country but I will be back in NM for 3 weeks from end of July to mid Aug as I profession is now in the Petrol Industry overseas. You are more than welcome at my home, and yes, my orchard. James, NMIMT was an excellent school for my wife and I. I have more internship offers and about 5 job offers upon graduation with my first degree. I had the problem that I had tell companies that I had to stop the job search because I didnt have any more time to fly all over the country and interview.. My second degree (my MSci) I had 3 job offers. NMIMT is known for being a good buy and the school is very small so you really dont get lost in the college things, everyone there has very good scores here so it is hard in that most everyone there has excelled in math and sciences.

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Jose,
No need for alarm nor to send more cuttings. I am confident in what you did, what Harvey did, and what I have. I believe this is simply a difference of climate and other variables that cannot be correlated.

Concerning the tree I have from you, the leaves match what you called Socorro Black, they also match the images of the Socorro Fig on your Photobucket page, they match what Paully posted in this thread, and some of the newer leaves match with both Harvey's photo and the Socorro 4 on your PhotoBucket page. I posted the leaves from my tree in an earlier thread (Socorro Black 2011 & 2012). The images in that thread show some finger-like leaves but not as prevalent as shown in Harvey's image or your Socorro 4 images. So if I raised concern, it was not intentional but a simple observation of the plethora of finger-like leaves on Harvey's tree.

We all know that climate, age, potted versus grounded, watering, wasp, sun, owner neglect (mine) each impact the leaves, fruit, growth, etc.

Harvey and others growing Socorro Black,
Once you get fruit, please post photographs. I did not realize how many people were growing Socorro Black. If you have the heat, get and grow it. It is a very good fig.

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2014 update. Super-figgy concentrated taste as ever.  


Jose, I just saw this message (was on my way to Idaho when you posted) and had not known for sure if you had received me message about the apparent mix-up.  Whatever it is I got from you is growing very well and there are fruits but not ripe yet.  I need to figure out how to set things straight with Katerina and Johnnie.

If possible, I'd love to get some cuttings from you before you head back to the ME.

Good shot Frank, looks good, thanks for the update.

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Frank,
I am glad that it is performing well and tasting good. Thanks Jose.

Frank, sorry for continuing to hijack your thread.  Hope you don't mind.

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Harvey and others growing Socorro Black, Once you get fruit, please post photographs.


JD, I picked my first fruit tonight....
SocorroBlack20140826cutC.jpg 

Now what do you think?  And Jose: your thoughts?


I first admired this fig fruit since day-one him (source) Jose showed it off on this FF.
I did get one, but unfortunately, I recently lost it before it even fruited.

I also remember a pic of a MOSTER  log (same fig) that Jose managed to root.

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Harvey,

I think it looks very good because it looks very good. How did it taste?
It looks as if the shape, size, and open cavity are a match. The skin color is darker than I have seen, however, it will be different in your climate for a variety of reasons. 

I have had a few Socorro Black figs. They were very good as usual and the slight acidity was good. No photos for a variety of reason. The primary reason is lack of figs to photograph due to the squirrels - they have devoured so many ripe figs as well as unripe Socorro Black (and JH Adriatic) figs or just pulled them off.

JD, it had only mild acidity and maybe it tasted a bit sweeter than the brix indicated.  I'm not creative enough to associate the flavor with any particular fruits.

Harvey, Is that fig from the mother tree that I got my start from? I realize that you have the wasp there but none the less it gives me high hopes for next year.

Johnnie, yours was from either this tree or the one right next to it which is the same.

It sure does look like a fine tasting fig. My start didn't put on any figs this year but it does have very nice looking leaves and was a pretty good grower despite us not really having a summer here in NY this year.

Harvey, very nice looking fruit. Do you know if this is the tree that my little plant came from?

Mike, same situation as Johnnie's. Everything I sold or traded came from two identical mother trees. Both have a lot of fruit and I should have a lot more to pick in the next month or two.

nice looking fig!

Harvey, then that clears up the message you had sent me. Correct?

I'm still not really sure since the leaf form doesn't look right.  I'll say it is a very good fig but I can't just say with certainty that it is Socorro Black because of the leaves.

Leaves seem to be haunting me lately, LOL

I had communicated with one collector with Wuhan, for instance, since some of my cuttings developed into trees with lobed leaves and others looked like mulberry leaves.  This collector showed me their tree with very distinct differences on different branches.  That could have been what happened here, I don't know.

I picked another fig from the other tree around noon today and will post the photo later.  I picked it about two days early in comparison to the one above and it still had areas of green on it but it was quite soft.  It was more acidic but still quite good.

EDIT:  Here is the photo of the fruit picked today.
SocorroBlack20140827c.jpg 

Wow that looks tasty.

I'd like to bump this thread just to get folks thoughts on my figs in posts 33 and 44.  I tend to think my two trees aren't actually Socorro Black but I don't want to rely on just leaf shape for the decision as I've seen too many weird things (plus even Jon reported how he had a Vista with "wrong" leaves for four years).  Thanks for your thoughts.

Harvey, please cut and post on another thread, then ask the question, this is Frank's thread.

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Harvey, please cut and post on another thread, then ask the question, this is Frank's thread.

Wayne, I already mentioned to Frank about hijacking his thread and he didn't reply.  I posted in his thread specifically so he and JD could compare my plants/fruits to theirs.  If Frank asks me to delete my posts from his thread, I'll do it.  JD, Johnnie, and Mike have already commented about my posts so removing my posts at this point would render their posts out of place.

You're right, but I hate to see something go negative and Frank's thread gets locked, that is my only concern because the postings were a couple weeks ago and things have happened since then.

Mine is growing well to have FMV so bad, I just got it spring of last year and it's almost 3 ft tall now. 

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