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Bass

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Posted 1332722732	Reply with quote #1

If you live in any of these areas on the map be careful leaving any of your potted trees out. Since it has been exceptionally warm most trees have broke dormancy very early. Apricot was the first to flower then followed by my peach. The figs started to push the leaves and the brebas are getting large. It's easy to protect the potted trees, but the large inground trees will be damaged by the cold. We're expecting 27° F Monday night into Tuesday morning. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

rafed

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Posted 1332723612	Reply with quote #2

Thanks Bass, My father and Robert (Robo5020 ) took all the potted figs out about ten days ago. I took them all back inside the garage yesterday. I had zero loss this last Winter season and I plan on keeping it that way.

paully22

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Posted 1332724108	Reply with quote #3

Rafed -- zero loss. You are the figman. I have a few young ones that died. More were killed by the dog.

rafed

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Posted 1332725394	Reply with quote #4

Paul, The success is for the potted trees, the inground are a different story. I think part of it is because I have an attached garage and the other is because my father gives them little bit of water every other week to keep the roots from drying out completely. I think it's time to decide who or what stays, the dog or the figs. I would pick the figs. The dog is a liability. The figs are an asset, a monetary investment with a return.;)

71GTO

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Posted 1332726096	Reply with quote #5

Thanks Bass, I brought all my pots inside today. What if anything would you recommend for in ground trees the are leafing out and have Breba? I also have two trees that have done anything yet. I was just going to leave them alone. __________________ NJ z7a Wish list :

persianninja

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Posted 1332729464	Reply with quote #6

How about cold-hardy figs that are just breaking bud or are just pushing out leaves[and very small green breba nodes forming]? Will the wood of the trees themselves be damaged by the freezing temps, or just if damage the large breba, and/or the leaves? Most of my figs are just breaking dormancy or pushed leaves after I brought them outside last week.

motownnj

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Posted 1332732008	Reply with quote #7

Mine inground is uncovered, yet to break dormancy. Its pretty small (about 6' tall), so I am going to put an old blanket & sheet over the crown. We have a low of 24 predicted here. I think/hope that should do it.

musillid

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Posted 1332758148	Reply with quote #8

Glad we saw that coming! All tucked in again. __________________ Dale non compost mentis in Zone 6a

Bass

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Posted 1332763237	Reply with quote #9

We were happy with a mild winter that brebas were spared, but now the deep freeze will most likely kill it. All my fruit trees are now actively growing. It's not feasible to wrap everything. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

paully22

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Posted 1332772220	Reply with quote #10

Any green wood, leaves or brebas will most likely be fried by the cold/cold winds. Happens to me twice -- once a sudden snap in 1st week Oct and the other was in May. Protect as much as possible.

vito12831

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Posted 1332780029	Reply with quote #11

I had my plants outside for three weeks now,I put them back in the garage last night and I have well over one hundred plants. Some people claim for the in ground plants to put a sprinkler on them. You have nothing to loose but a Little water. Vito

Figfinatic

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Posted 1332780336	Reply with quote #12

Weather around 90 degrees over weekend. Envy the freeze. __________________ Wish: Sbayi, passiflora incense, quadrangularis or others

hblta

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Posted 1332787402	Reply with quote #13

How long it will take for the cold damage to show itself? Just wondering because I forgot one of my plants outside last night. had a low of 25 F. Grant Z5b __________________ ************* Grant Kitchener Ontario Canada Z5b

paully22

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Posted 1332787961	Reply with quote #14

Overnight cold snap during 1st week Oct. was enough to killed all green stems. In the morning I had tarps over my collection. It was too late. I went into the tent after 6 hours having my fig collection under the tarp and the difference in temp was easily felt - warm. Trapped heat. By the 5th day, almost all the leaves looks like they have been damaged by heat -- turns brown/black.

buonnatale2u

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Posted 1332800541	Reply with quote #15

thanks Bass! Glad I took your advice and did not uncover my in ground figs 2 weeks ago! I have a plum tree in full bloom, and a peach tree approaching full bloom :( Such a shame, if it is not the weather, its the darn squirrels! One way or another, I lose out on my peaches every year. My trees are dwarfs, although the peach is pretty large now. Would it be of any help to maybe through some burlap over the tree tonight? Although thinking the burlap may be too heavy and knock the blooms off anyway. __________________ Christy 7a/6b NJ bonechickchris on GW Wish List: Italian Purple Beefera-where are you?? :) St. Rita, anything Belleclare, anything of the Salerno region of Italy

tmc2009

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Posted 1332801240	Reply with quote #16

Its already 32 F here in the Boston area. Wind gusts of 35+ mph and wind chill of 22 F. I brought everything in. Some of the peach tree flowers were opening and also the Magnolia flowers were just about to open. The high was only 45 F today. __________________ Tom Massachusetts Zone 6b

Bass

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Posted 1332801766	Reply with quote #17

I just visited a friend, he's a Mennonite farmer. We spoke about how much damage he thinks these temperature can cause. He feels that the wind will help reduce the cold damage. He may be spraying his strawberry plants with water to keep them from freezing. We'll be inspecting the damage tomorrow afternoon... I hope all your trees will be okay. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

musillid

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Posted 1332803254	Reply with quote #18

That weather map is a big bull's eye right over my house. Cherry tree is all budded up and daffodils in full glory. Tomorrow morn will show them all hoary and spring this year a sad and bleak story. __________________ Dale non compost mentis in Zone 6a

persianninja

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Posted 1332807710	Reply with quote #19

Just got all my figs and potted pomegranates inside, except a couple in ground figs. Wonder why the Mennonite guy thinks wind will reduce cold damage? Thought wind was bad as it gives a wind chill to the cold temps

hblta

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Posted 1332808197	Reply with quote #20

I think the wind keeps frost from forming. That might have something to do with less damage, as there is no surface damage from the ice crystals, and internally the plants themselves will have a slightly lower freezing point. Grant z5b __________________ ************* Grant Kitchener Ontario Canada Z5b

Bass

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Posted 1332810171	Reply with quote #21

__________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

71GTO

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Posted 1332810883	Reply with quote #22

I threw some old drop clothes over two of my trees. My two small trees that have not broken bud yet I wrapped in burlap. I hope it helps. I would have been able to just put garbage cans over the small trees, but the wind would blow them right over. __________________ NJ z7a Wish list :

rcantor

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Posted 1332823420	Reply with quote #23

Put Christmas lights in the trees and cover them with anything windproof you have. __________________ Zone 6, MO Wish list: Galicia Negra, De La Reina - Pons, Genovese Nero - Rafed's, Sbayi, Souadi, Acciano, Any Rimada, Sodus Sicilian, any Bass, Pons or Axier fig, any great tasting fig.

smiles4allages

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Posted 1332838312	Reply with quote #24

27 deg. 4:30 Am Southampton Twp Nj

musillid

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Posted 1332846425	Reply with quote #25

26F in north-central Ohio at 7:00 a. m. with light frost and no wind. __________________ Dale non compost mentis in Zone 6a

buonnatale2u

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Posted 1332854394	Reply with quote #26

How did everyone make out? It seemed to hover around 32F if I was reading the temps right, so it was not as bad as I thought here at the jersey shore. Good idea about the Christmas lights! Never thought of that. I threw some burlap and old blankets over the peach and plum. I did not cover the cherry trees though. They have buds on them but no where near flowering. I wonder if I should of covered them also. __________________ Christy 7a/6b NJ bonechickchris on GW Wish List: Italian Purple Beefera-where are you?? :) St. Rita, anything Belleclare, anything of the Salerno region of Italy

lukeott

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Posted 1332859689	Reply with quote #27

Is it safe yet? Kinda need a update on bringing them back out. If the low is suppose to be 40, is this ok for new plants? Hey Bass...I always wondered where all the mennonites came from, there's a farmer that grows them. Please forgive me, I couldn't resist. :)

Chivas

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Posted 1332860693	Reply with quote #28

I brought my trees out this morning, it's about 38 degrees or so here and I may bring them back again on Thursday, just depends on how cold it's getting for me, but I may doing it wrong as well. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

71GTO

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Posted 1332862386	Reply with quote #29

Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing guys, it's going to be 40 tonight hear which I think is fine and I have left my trees out at that temp, but they are predicting 37 a few days from now for the over night low. I'm wondering if that is ok for one night. I don't want to bring everything out for one 2 days. __________________ NJ z7a Wish list :

timclymer

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Posted 1332863234	Reply with quote #30

I'm wondering too. Most of my in-ground figs have started to bud out so I covered all of them. I'm wondering if I should remove the covering tonight so they don't fry in the heat tomorrow (67 degrees). Any advice from experienced growers? I'll leave the potted ones in the garage until the weekend. __________________ http://threefoldfarm.org - Fig trees and farm updates https://www.facebook.com/ThreefoldFarm South Central PA (6b,7a) Want List: Ital 258, any figs found growing in PA, NJ, or NY

striveforfreedom

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Posted 1332870871	Reply with quote #31

Brought them all in yesterday here in CT. Good thing too because it got COLD outside last evening. __________________ Vince Russo Norwalk, CT Zone 7A Wish list - Any cuttings of the Col de Dames would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Rob

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Posted 1332873410	Reply with quote #32

When you bring a fig tree inside for one day, you lose the photosynthesis that could have happened. Also, presumably the leaves lose some of their tolerance for wind/light/etc. I think that if it is just one day, there is no serious harm. But if it was a month, there would be a lot of harm. In general, does anyone have an idea of about how many days indoors it takes before it starts to have a significant negative effect on the tree? We're all trying to manage this situation of should I or shouldn't I bring the tree in. We're asking what is the temperature at which damage starts to occur, which is a useful discussion. But the flipside to me is how many days indoors before bad things start to happen. Specifically, I have about 5 trees that are actively growing now in full leaf, because I had them under lights inside for the whole winter. I went through the process of gradually acclimating them to outdoor conditions already, because of how warm it has been. So until yesterday, they were happy outside (I brought them in some nights). But yesterday, with temperatures at 45 degrees with 30 mph winds, and today, with it being 35 degrees when I left for work, they have been indoors. I am worried about them needing to be re-acclimated to outdoor conditions if I leave them inside for too many more days. Thoughts? __________________ Rob Maryland Zone 7 http://rbfigs.webs.com/

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1332887690	Reply with quote #33

Tim- Unless they are covered with something (really) breathable like floating row cover, it should be removed every day or the temps will do really high and moisture will build up. My inground trees with little figs and leaves survived fine last night with row cover over them, and it does not get too hot for them in the day either. You are out in farm country, keep your eyes peeled for farms using it in April on their tomatoes and go ask them for a few pieces. Rob- I would have to say it depends, if you put them back under the lights then they should still be half acclimated in a few days. But if they are not getting enough light they will start producing extra chlorophyll faster and need to adjust all the way again. I would spend a couple of weeks in April gradually getting them used to the sun again regardless of how March was. Directly next to a house wall it is always 5 degrees warmer, more if it is brick or stone and it gets sun during the day. And maybe a little less if the wind is really whipping. __________________ 7a, DE

Bass

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Posted 1333049048	Reply with quote #34

Another freeze warning for these areas on the map. Below freezing temperatures starting at 3am until 9 am tomorrow Friday 3/30 __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

AaronT

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Posted 1333114383	Reply with quote #35

I went ahead and covered mine last night, even though I was technically just outside the advisory zone. Good thing I did, because there was some frost this morning. Fortunately everything came through the earlier frost fine apart from a couple of brown spots on my Lattarula. __________________ Pittsburgh, Pennsyltucky Zone 6b give or take

hblta

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Posted 1333130550	Reply with quote #36

I am having a pleasant surprise from the lone fig which I forgot outside on Sunday night. We had a low of 25, ice on the water in the buckets, and the fig has only a few brown spots on a few leaves. Might have been because although it was cold we had no frost. or perhaps because the leaves had not fully opened and were still budding out. or maybe it's just one tough fig. Grant z5b __________________ ************* Grant Kitchener Ontario Canada Z5b

nhardy

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Posted 1333138206	Reply with quote #37

Cool weather coming Tuesday night for a few days. (Back to spring temps.) They say our overnight temps. will be around 47. I'm worried about my annual seedling that I have outside. I ran out of room under my lights. 3/31/12 Don't trust the weatherman! Now we are going to be in the 90's and not problem about cold temps. over night. Just make up your mind! __________________ StL 6a (My biggest problem is humidity with the heat during the summer here.) Potted Violette de Bordeaux - EL, 2009 Roots pruned 2016 Potted Mary Lane - Durio, 2010 Roots pruned 2016 Potted Celeste - Freedom Tree Farms, 2014 OTP Roots pruned 2016

striveforfreedom

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Posted 1333141158	Reply with quote #38

I brought all 30+ 1 gallon new figs back inside. I had a 6 in 3 gallon pots that are a year old so I decided to leave them out and see how they fair. Yeah, that was a big mistake. About half of leaves fell/fried from the black mission, celeste, and magnolia but what I found funny was chicago hardy lost them all! Not so hardy I suppose. Is there any chance for these fig trees in the 3 gallon pots to grow leaves back this year or do you think they cooked for the year? __________________ Vince Russo Norwalk, CT Zone 7A Wish list - Any cuttings of the Col de Dames would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1333144401	Reply with quote #39

They are going to be fine Vince, maybe a little bushier and later to produce figs though. It depends if the shoots died or not. __________________ 7a, DE

striveforfreedom

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Posted 1333210084	Reply with quote #40

Thanks Brent! I brought the ones in the 3 gallon pots back in the garage for now. All the 1 gallon pots are back in the 3 season porch doing fine. We have another bunch to pot up this weekend. We (I) have visions of potted fig trees lining the edge of or driveway. __________________ Vince Russo Norwalk, CT Zone 7A Wish list - Any cuttings of the Col de Dames would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

buonnatale2u

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Posted 1333405500	Reply with quote #41

Looks like we have another frost watch again for tonight on the East Coast :( __________________ Christy 7a/6b NJ bonechickchris on GW Wish List: Italian Purple Beefera-where are you?? :) St. Rita, anything Belleclare, anything of the Salerno region of Italy

Bass

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Posted 1333409971	Reply with quote #42

Winter has been warmer than spring. __________________ Pennsylvania http://www.treesofjoy.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/Trees-of-Joy/110193909021138

71GTO

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Posted 1333411684	Reply with quote #43

It seems that way, what's more annoying is that its warm for two days then cold again. I don't want to lug everything out for a day or two then back in. __________________ NJ z7a Wish list :

vito12831

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Posted 1333416537	Reply with quote #44

Hello. I brought all my plants out this morning and brought them back in the garage tonight. I built five dollies that are 4'x4' and put most of my plants on them to wheel them in and out. It makes it a lot easier. Vito

71GTO

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Posted 1333416795	Reply with quote #45

I should probably do something like that, but I have to get it across a cobble stone drive way and then across the lawn. I would need to make it with big tires... __________________ NJ z7a Wish list :

noss

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Posted 1333426191	Reply with quote #46

Big pneumatic tires would help, GTO. Like we have on the wheelbarrow. Cushions the shock. noss __________________ noss/a.k.a. Vivian Lafayette, LA Zone 9a Wish List: Col de Dame Blanc, Col de Dame Noir, Scott's Yellow, Tony's Brown Italian, any other fig that is good in the rain/humidity and has a real figgy flavor.

Chivas

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Posted 1333453568	Reply with quote #47

I made a really quick frame with 2 x 4s and then put agr19 floating row cover over my trees, it was up to 22 degrees Celsius yesterday but but drops down to about 2 degrees as well, I haven't seen damage yet so I have fingers crossed. It really as an ugly sight but if it works I will be happy. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

buonnatale2u

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Posted 1333464153	Reply with quote #48

Chivas, where do you get your row covers? I need them for my cole crops. I can get them from my local nursery, but they seem pricey. Wondering if you had a source to recommend? I have made last minute coverings too out of the clear plastic paint drop clothes they have at Home Depot, some tomato steaks, and line my plants up against the railings of my patio and just throw the cover over it. Looks hideous, but works to keep some heat in when you are dealing with times like this when it is just a night here and there that may go down to freezing. Yes, the back and forth of warm and then cold is the most annoying part. __________________ Christy 7a/6b NJ bonechickchris on GW Wish List: Italian Purple Beefera-where are you?? :) St. Rita, anything Belleclare, anything of the Salerno region of Italy

Chivas

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Posted 1333488634	Reply with quote #49

I am in Canada and I bought from Vesey's I think it was 36 bucks for a 6 foot wide by 100 foot long row cover. If you live the states Johnny's select seeds is a bit cheaper it looks like but I wanted to buy from Canadian company instead. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

Dieseler

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Posted 1333515467	Reply with quote #50

Alright who is sending there cold weather here cause my back is starting to ache from the fig shuffle now. Was nice for a short while when the plants stood on driveway day and night but lately no as the little guys have to come in garage each night. I suspect our friendly Canadians are to blame !

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