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Frost Sensitivity of Different Varieties with Photos

In September I moved to Arizona with my collection of figs.  My plants are still young and small.  I also acquired two new varieties since moving here.  I have a total of 11 varieties of figs.


The climate in Arizona is warm and figs do great here.  However the last few weeks have been unseasonably cool and in the last few days we have even experienced some frost.

Here are my observations on the frost sensitivity of different varieties.  This does NOT mean cold hardiness.  Instead I am documenting what I have observed regarding how easily the leaves of different fig varieties experience damage from frost.

The photos don't show the extent of the frost damage as clearly as looking at the plants in person, but they'll give a general idea of how the plant faired.

Here is my list, starting with the varieties that were MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO FROST DAMAGE:

#1 Col de Dame


This is a young rooted cutting, so it may not be representative of how susceptible a mature specimen would be to frost.  That being said, Col de dame was the only variety to have total dieback from the frost.


#2 Black Mission


In my experience it lives up to its reputation of being very sensitive to frost and cold.


#3 Desert King


I expected Desert King to be more resistant to frost damage.  However there was extensive frost damage to the leaves all over the tree.


#4 Barnisotte


This is also a small plant started from a cutting, so it may not be representative of how it will do when mature.  It had significant leaf damage.


#5 LSU Purple


It had quite a bit of leaf damage.


#6 LSU Gold


This plant has been a slow grower for me.  It did produce nice sized fruit this year.  Many of the leaves yellowed up from the frost.  I'm not sure if they were really damaged by the frost or if the frost is just triggering the plant to go dormant.  I don't really see damaged green leaves, but the majority of the leaves have been yellowed by the frost.


#7 Violette de Bordeaux


This is the plant that I killed with fertilizer over the summer.  In the end it did survive, but is still quite small.  Surprisingly, it withstood the frost pretty well.  It does have some frost damage though.


#8 Marseilles VS


The plant has minor frost damage distributed here and there over the whole plant.  Overall it withstood the frost pretty well.


#9 Jersey (my unknown)


This plant experienced frost damage on the tip of one branch where it had recently put out a flush of new growth, but showed no frost damage anywhere else.


#10 Hardy Chicago


Hardy Chicago was unique in that none of its leaves wilted or wrinkled up from the cold.  However some of the leaves at the base of the plant turned a brown color in patches.


#11 Celeste


Celeste was the winner in my yard in terms of frost hardiness.  It is the only plant that was smart enough to go dormant in the cool weather this November.  The one yellow leaf was already turning yellow and getting ready to fall off prior to the frost as part of its dormancy process.  The one green leaf it has left was undamaged by the frost.


Hopefully this info helps those who live in areas with occasional frosts.  What have other growers found in terms of frost tolerance with their varieties?

maybe you should wait till spring 2011

Gorgi,


I'm just reporting visible leaf damage after this first frost, which occurred a few nights ago.  Here in Arizona we may or may not get more frosts this winter.  All of the plants were in full growth mode except for Celeste.

OK, I missed the tittle, sorry...

Thanks for the pictures Joe.I'm surprise that your Hardy Chicago did not sustain much frost damage.


 I have heard from several people who say that although their Hardy Chicago is cold resistant it is still frost sensitive. That includes the Hardy Chicago we have plated in the V of our chimney. Most of the time it comes through the winter without any die back. Then some time in the spring it gets killed back from the late Spring Frost.

After talking to many people who have Hardy Chicago growing at their place, I'm starting to think there may be many different variants of Hardy Chicago.

Was that Hardy Chicago a cutting from the one you had growing near the New Hampshire Massachusetts border? 

Hey Joe,

Thanks for this thread, it was very informative and the kind of little things I like to see as an outdoor grower.  I went ahead and hyperlinked your images to make the results easier to review.


 

Jason - Thanks for the hyperlinks.  Did you do that by inserting html?  I tried that when I was originally typing the post but in preview mode it didn't show the photos, so I decided just to put the http address.


Robert - That is the same Hardy Chicago I grew in Methuen, MA.  In 2003 I bought it from Raintree Nursery and planted it in my grandmother's yard in NY.  Then I took a sucker from that plant in 2007 and brought it to Massachusetts.  The plant I have now is a sucker that I dug up from the Massachusetts tree in August.  I too have wondered about there being different strains of HC out there.  I know at one point after I purchased the tree from Raintree they weren't offering HC for a period of time.  Then they had it available again at a later point.  I'm not sure if the HC they offer now is the same strain that they sold back in 2003.  I actually emailed them about it a couple of years ago but got no response.

One thing for sure, Joe.


---------------  You are no more Frozenjoe in Arizona.

Ottawan,


I know, you're right.  But that's what I'm known by so I guess I'll keep it.

Perhaps , FrozenJoe Not , would be the appropriate change of name.
From still stuck in the cold drivewayfarmer,
Kerry
zone5 NH

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrozenJoe
Jason - Thanks for the hyperlinks.  Did you do that by inserting html?  I tried that when I was originally typing the post but in preview mode it didn't show the photos, so I decided just to put the http address.


For this forum, specifically (won't work @ GardenWeb), you need to wrap it in "image tags".  Like this:

It is very important that there is no / in the first IMG tag, but it MUST be in the ending one.  There should not be any spaces between the URL and the IMG tags.  Don't forget the brackets ] [ and put them in the correct order!  Give it a shot to practice!!


Here is an alternate option.

When you are replying, click this button I have circled, and type the URL to your picture in the box provided (ignore the other boxes and be VERY careful NOT to duplicate the http:// part, since they auto-insert one for you).

You can insert as many pics as you want in-line.


Jason,


You're the man!  I just went back and edited my original post with the instructions you gave me and the photos all appeared.  Thanks for the instructions.

Kerry,


I feel for you and everyone else up north dealing with the weather this time of year.  It's weird living somewhere that is still green on December 1st.  One thing I won't miss about the northeast are those winters. 

Hi FrozenJoe,
good to see what our doing amd hopefully in a few seasons you can post back and show how all the plants compare with limb damage also , course thats if it gets cold enough there as im not familar with winter temps there.
 Your screen name reminds me of me yesterday when jeep trans line blew out of the cooler and spilled all over driveway and street.
Frozen i was when me and wifes friend had to fix it back up. Did not hit 30 yesterday nor today for a high.
Its cool  here not yet cold but still able to freeze ! ... with snow coming this weekend .

Joe--interesting post. Thanks for the info! Down here in Tucson it tends to be a little cooler than Phoenix, both summer and winter. That recent cold night got down to the high 20's, so of course all the leaves on my inground Brown Turkey & Black Mission froze and shriveled up. My rooted cuttings were in the garage on the workbench, so they stayed warm enough to keep their leaves, though some are starting to drop from lack of irrigation. That's more than enough cold weather for me--I'm already looking forward to spring!

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