Leon, thanks again for sharing.  Is your tree in the ground?  What is your weather like during the summer?  I always think of the SW as being dry but know there are thunderstorms which we don't get up north.

Many of my figs did not form breba this year.  Some of this (but not all) is because of heavy pruning since I'm training trees onto wires.

My GN is in a pot. Our summers are hot and dry except starting in August we get monsoon rains several days per week. The rains have pretty much stopped for Albuquerque.

My breba looks just like the one Leon posted. The lighter fig on the right was grown in my greenhouse and didn't get dark.

Leon, Art, very interesting. Those brebas have a distinctive shape to them. Check out the two main crop figs on my GN this year in comparison.

   

And yes, these are for sure main crop. The leaves at those nodes dropped a couple of weeks ago due to water issues.
BTW, If either of you are interested in trying Robert's strain in comparison, let me know I'm sure we can work something out.

I'm re-posting Zach's post here but with only his first photo which is a tree he got from me.  Just doing this to make a comparison of the tree

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Originally Posted by ztfree1128
Here are some photos of the leaves from the two trees: the first photo is from the leaf from the tree from Harvey- all the leaves look like this. The remaining three photos are from the other tree I have. There are a lot of different leaf shapes on the tree but these three seem to be the most representative.

 
 
 
 

Andy, it will be interesting to see what you figs look like when they ripen. Thank you.
Harvey, you're right about the leaf variation. Thanks for posting.
Art- yes we have the same fig, thank you too.

A couple pictures on the tree at my parents in Tx. Not the best, but some decent detail including the shape of the fruit. The Genovese Nero is the tree in the green pot, the one in the blue pot in Improved Celeste.
   

Based on some lengthy discussions in another thread, I am going to follow the example used by Jon with a Vista fig he has and call my three trees Genovese Nero OL (odd leaf) as the leaf shape does not fit the pattern seen by most other growers.  Some people are of the view that my trees must not be Genovese Nero at all and claim that Rob either made a mistake or cheated me and others.  Based on the variability in leaf shape some others have seen and the lack of support for such claims, I am not willing to go along with such assertions.  If someone who has purchased a tree from me wants to discuss terms for a refund, etc., please write to me in private.  I am keeping an open mind on this and consider this to be an open investigation, of sorts.

I have been picking a good number of figs from my trees without necessarily paying close attention to many of the fruits.  However, I happened to notice while walking home that this fruit I picked today (had picked another one or two but they didn't make it to the house) had a much more pronounced stem than the others I have posted photos of.  It was also more moderate in size.  Taste was similar to the others which I consider to be very good.

 

Harvey, my tree did not come from you. It did come from the same source as a mature tree in a one
gallon pot. Based on the leaf pics of yours and others, and especially the pics of the fruit, There is no
doubt mine is different. Additionally, my fruit taste nor looks anything like another poster who's tree
originated from the same person. His has distinct berry flavors and mine honey/melon. I certainly understand
the changes growing conditions and climate can have. However with out any similarities one can only make
the conclusion that it is not what it is suppose to be.

Thanks, Mike.  I plan to grow Genovese Nero from another source so I can do a side by side comparison.

Do you have an idea what you have, then, if it's not Genovese Nero?  If what I have is not Genovese Nero, I'd sure as heck like to know what it is as I consider it to be a very good fig.  I have about 100 trees of various varieties I started in late 2012 and early 2013 and what I am growing as Genovese Nero is easily the most productive for me this year out of that group.  I have one other variety that is definitely more vigorous but not as productive.

Harvey, I have another from a reputable person also.

My best guess at the present is a Thibodeaux and below are some pics and taste. I believe you can tell that if the fruit from my tree looks and taste
anything like this it would be hard for it to be a GN.

I have the same one as you mike, mine just needed to ripen more before the photo. Mine have a melon/peachy/brunswicky kind of taste also not so much a honey taste. Thibodeaux is reportedly a dark brown fig with honey taste CAJUNB  says "I have a large tree that came from Sidney Thibodeaux who worked at LSU,this fig was named after him........The fruit is very large dark brown in color and very sweet almost honey taste. Sidney Thibodeaux gave me the Thibodeaux tree and that's what he called it,he was one of the workers at the LSU fig program and he liked the tree very much."  "I'd say ours is more purple then brown"  check out  texascockatoos  blue giant and tell me what you think. http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/blue-giant-5374929?highlight=giant&pid=1269620824
 

i have a Thibodeaux also that came from JR. My so called GN and it are a lot alike.

All I know is our figs don't look like this, but I've still yet to get a breba from this plant so hopefully I'm wrong
    

You are so right. Nothing a like.

Daniel, BTW you do remember I have a cutting from you that is growing from last spring.

Took these pictures today at Adrianos house. Both the old trees had severe die back and had no leaves this is a yourger plant he had.

Thats right, I did send you GN. This third party crap is for the birds, I need a cutting from the real source. Looks like I need to take a trip up to Canada, maybe I should start a kickstarter ad to fund the trip lol.  

Maybe unrelated, but my fruit from a tree grown in my shadehouse last year was more purple. Nelson has said fruit at Adriano's looked like Black Madeira (photo posted above is breba). I haven't seen anybody post any fruits that resemble Black Madeira.

I have all of mine in full sun April- late Oct placed about 8 feet from the back of the house. I planted them so around fall as the sun gets lower the house cast a shadow early in the day on the plants to promote dormancy. I've lost other plants that refuse to go dormant until it's too late and wasn't going to have it happen to my Genovese Nero plants. This also stops them from breaking dormancy too soon and being hit with spring frost and freezes. I don't think it's the sun, nor do I think it's climate. Main reason being we all grow many of the same figs and the only time they seem remotely different is when caprified. I've seen lighter and darker outside shades of figs because of climatic differences but never a different shape, size, and interior color. Thank about it Celeste looks like a celeste even if darker or lighter everywhere from southern TX to Western PA.    

I do not believe my fruit from 2013 was caprified, FWIW.  I did place caprifigs around some of my trees but not near my shadehouse.  While wasps can fly decent distances, I have not seen that occur at my location.  My Marabout C. Smyrna never set fruit until I placed caprifigs around it last year even though a caprifig tree was growing 1,500' away.  I just wonder about the reason for the difference in the appearance of my fruit from last year to this year.  It could be the potting mix but I don't know (this year's fruits are all from in-ground trees).

And, as far as fruits from different locations appearing the same, why isn't anyone producing fruit that appears like Adriano's?  I don't believe any even look close to what has been described, but that's just my opinion.

They don't look like Adriano's fig because they are probably not Adriano's fig. Nelson's photo is the only one that looks exactly like Adriano's fig. Thats who we should ask for cuttings if you want the real GN and not going through Adriano himself. 

You'd know it if you had the real deal. Genovese Nero is the best tasting fig that I have. Preto is a close second, followed by JH Adriatic. I haven't tasted my Black Madeira yet.

I just picked these tonight. You can see the resemblance in shape to BM and Preto. Only this fig is larger.

Just picked this one tonight also.