Getting cuttings to Canada?

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Ard

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Posted 1202062708

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From what I can find out there is no way I can provide fig scion to folks in Canada at this time.
Anyone know of a more honest way than just putting them in the general mail and hope for the best?

Brian
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Import Details for Requirement: 44164 Version: 3

HS Description: 060210
06	Live trees and other plants; bulbs, roots and the like; cut flowers and ornamental foliage
02	Other live plants (including their roots), cuttings and slips; mushroom spawn.
10	Unrooted cuttings and slips
OGD Extension: 000990
0009	Unrooted plants (include greenhouse grown) - fruits (edible) (nursery stock)
90	Other fruit - Unrooted plants
Origin: UCA
	United States
	California

Recommendations to CBSA / Documentation and Registration Requirements

Refer to CFIA-ISC (must be accompanied by the following documents/registrations):

Phytosanitary Certificate

Importer / Broker Instructions

DOCUMENTATION INSTRUCTIONS

PHYTOSANITARY CERTIFICATE
- Obtain from Country of Export prior to importation.

CONDITIONS OF IMPORT

The Phytosanitary Certificate must accompany the shipment.

Material must be free from soil, sand and related debris.

From areas of the continental United States that are regulated for P. ramorum (SOD).

Non-regulated plants produced in regulated areas are allowed entry if the material meets one of the following conditions.

1) The plant material is free of all growing media, soil and related matter;

"The plants in this consignment are free of all growing media, soil and related matter."

OR

2) The plant material was produced in a pest free production site;

A Phytosanitary Certificate is required to accompany the consignment, containing the following Additional Declaration:

"The plant material in this consignment has been produced in a production site free of sudden oak death disease (Phytophthora ramorum) or conforms to the USDA SOD-Free Nursery Stock Program".

ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONS

*** Please note that border lookouts and targets take precedence over import requirements indicated in AIRS.

- Any import inspection services provided by CFIA staff are subject to a CFIA user fee.
- May be subject to requirements of Other Government Departments (federal, provincial or territorial).
- Contact an Import Service Centre for further information.

WOOD PACKAGING MATERIAL (for all origins except Continental United States):
Brokers/ Importers should attest to one of the following with respect to the packaging material being used to ship the product:
- "Wood packaging contained with shipment displays the ISPM No. 15 compliant stamp."
OR
- " Wood packaging material is accompanied by a Phytosanitary Certificate, ie. approved treatment per ISPM No. 15. "
OR
- "Wood packaging material is made out of manufactured wood which is exempted from ISPM No. 15."
OR (when it applies)
- "No wood packaging contained with shipment."

PLANTS WITH NOVEL TRAITS:
When importing plants or viable plant material, importers should be aware that they may be subject to additional regulatory requirements if the imported product is a plant with a novel trait, or PNT.

A plant is considered to be a PNT if it contains a trait that is both new to the Canadian environment and has the potential to affect the specific use and safety of the plant with respect to the environment and human health. For example, a plant may be subject to regulation if it is a product of biotechnology, and/or displays novel herbicide tolerance, and/or has a new trait that could increase its weediness or invasiveness.

Please refer to Directive 96-13 for additional regulatory requirements.

Additional References

D-94-14 Permit requirements for imports from the Continental United States

Plant Protection Act and Regulations

D-01-01 Phytosanitary Requirements to Prevent the Entry of Phytophthora ramorum Associated with Sudden Oak Death into Canada

D-02-02 Plant protection import requirements for rooted or unrooted plants, plant parts, and tissue cultured plants for propagation

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pitangadiego

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Posted 1202082311	Reply with quote #2

Essentially they require an import permit on the part of the person in Canada, and generally a phyto cert from the state of origin - same as fig plants. An alternative is to have them try contacting Adriano at http://www.adrianosfigtrees.com/ Other than that, there is smuggling. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

Herman2

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Posted 1202083234	Reply with quote #3

Ard:Have you tried to send cuttings ,first class mail,in an envelope that weighed less than a pound total,and it did not rich there? If you did not,Then ask the person to send you mail,and overhead expenses,so you do not take any loss,and just shipp them this way. The other side will call you in 8 days and tell you the good news. But make sure it is first class and under a pound. Best Regards

OttawanZ5

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Posts: 2,551

Posted 1202092084	Reply with quote #4

Hi Brian As I understand, there is a list of plant cuttings etc that require import permit etc and figs are not included in this list. http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/plaveg/internat/d-94-14lste.shtml However, if someone does not feel comfortable, for one reason or another, then there should not be any obligation to send/exchange etc. Going through Import-permit ($40) plus Phyto-certificate ($30~$35) for a cutting or two by a hobbyist is like (.......well what should I say but $75 for a cutting or two!) which is not even sure if required for fig cutings. Though this is not a problem for WallMart to pay exactly the same amount for importing 100,000 plants and then distribute it via their central distribution. The problem is for the hobbyist and not for the business. Besides the businesses like WallMart and Home Depot do not carry fig plants in Canada but hobbyist go beyond their hardiness Zone comfort and experiment with new varieties not available here. So this is the reason if some fig enthusiast ask for cuttings with full postal and other compensation. But again, if someone feel discomfort, for one reason or another, then there should not be any obligation to send though the hobbyist impulse will always be there to ask & exchange (seems better than bringing in the suit case...). __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

paully22

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Posted 1202107076	Reply with quote #5

I have emailed Canadian Food Inspection Agency pertaining to an import permit regarding figs coming from USA before X'mas and I am still waiting for their snailed pace reply. Maybe I should give them a buzz Anyone out there has any experience bringing in figs the legi way from USA??. The other alternative I have done is that I talked to an owner of a local nursery here where they have loads of "MONROVIA" plants & I got a Monrovia fig last year. Unfortunately Monrovia has very limited varieties - not like what Jon or Adraino has.

The_montreal_Fig

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Posts: 313

Posted 1202134528	Reply with quote #6

Last time I wanted to import a banana plant from the Florida and I called The Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency to find out if I needed any kind of permit. They advised me that for this kind of plant no permit was required. They also explained that this kind of plant has low risk of spreading new forms of diseases because of the winter factor. The best thing is to give them a phone call and just ask… __________________ not in Montreal Z5b My fig collection http://www.figtrees.ca

Chivas

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Posts: 1,675

Posted 1301613162	Reply with quote #7

You do not need an Import permit for fig cuttings but if you want one you do not have to pay and it should take a day or two to get one if you feel better about it. I had gotten one because UCDAVIS told me I needed one but then they said it was a mistake and I didn't need it, I had the permit within 24 hours of requesting one though. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

Dieseler

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Posts: 8,252

Posted 1301615620	Reply with quote #8

I know this is old posting started by ARD His original question From what i can find out there is no way i can provide FIG SCION to folks in Canada. Regarding that question only: past 2 years went to post office and told them what i would be shipping via priority mail international they gave me green/white form PS Form 2976 and lady told me under Quanity andd detailed description put this Sterilized Fig Scionwood. They made it to folks last 2 years in a row to Canada via Priority International Also to South Korea as well via First Class International. and Austria i forgot how i claim but they made it. Before the knowledge i sent some folks collector dolls, garcia fishing reel parts and model train parts that rooted and grew leaves if you know what i mean.

pitangadiego

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Posted 1301624392	Reply with quote #9

One of the fellows finally got documentation from the Canadian authorities indicatng that an import permit is NOT required for plants or cuttings, despite other information to the contrary, obtained from their websites, and from talking to them in person. They do need to have a Phytosanitary certificate, and if they are plants, they need to come from a "Certified Snail Free Nursery", and that nursery needs to be registered by you local ag people with the Canadian authorities and be placed on their approved nursery list. In addition, FedEx will not ship plant material to Canada, but UPS will, with a special account. It is not fun. Been there, done that. __________________ Encanto Farms Nursery http://encantofarms.com http://figs4fun.com http://webebananas.com "pitangadiego" everywhere

nas33

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Posts: 161

Posted 1301625949	Reply with quote #10

theres lots of sources for cuttings inside of canada. Ive been through the cross border issues inside and out (trust me on this, Jon and Bass can comfirm) and sometimes its worth it, sometimes its not. Overall though, the easiest sources of top quality cuttings and plants are inside of Canada. Usually already trialed for our climate too! __________________ Nas 6a

OttawanZ5

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Posted 1301629541	Reply with quote #11

I have sent and received fig cutting packages to and from US fig friends (though slowing down with age). None of the package over the past 3+ years has ever been detained or lost and the green slip on the package says what is inside (of course there is always an opportunity for a 'first' that is lost). So it is up to us to make it easy or difficult for cuttings (& I am not talking about plants to be clear). Having said that, people have the right to refuse to trade or sell across the border for reasons of their own thinking since they own the cuttings. Then there are many others who say (quote) "the regulation on fig cuttings were never clear at all and if these were assumed to be there and used as reason for not shipping then many will not have the size of collections they have now" unquote. Some will choose to trade and ship but some will not and that is fine. But let us not make it difficult for those hobbyist who do not wish to make it difficult for other hobbyists. __________________ Ottawan-Z5a, Canada

Johnparav

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Posts: 479

Posted 1376876292	Reply with quote #12

Hey Damir , Where in Canada are you ? There are a number of people with sizable collections in Canada that may be able to help you out . John

tylerj

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Posts: 646

Posted 1377630606	Reply with quote #13

Damir I will have some extras available this fall. Once i sort out what I have owed to others who gifted some to me previously I'll get in touch. Tyler __________________ London, Ontario zone 6a Wish List: Martinenca Rimada, Genovese Nero AF, Galicia Negra, Brooklyn White

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