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Gillette just Picked

Here is a pic of my Gillette  I got from a gracious fellow member in a trade last year. I am recovering from surgery so all I can do is pick and eat my figs
  Enjoy

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I don see a picture...

I dont know what happened thier back

Got it now! 

Hi Just looked at the leaves some are like a clover with 5 points. This is also  a young tree I am surprised it fruited I think as it matures it probably look different. as for the source I got it in a trade with another member
 Hope that helps

yes I Will tomorrow
      Paul

OK, so Paul got the Gillette from me in a trade. Gillette is a very common fig grown in the pacific NW. I visit Seattle every year in May and June and take random cuttings while I visit. The tree that I have as well as the tree that I took cuttings from (near the ferry dock on Vashon Island, WA) was confirmed to be Gillette by a local fig guru Kiwi Bob. Check out his page on light figs in his area. He has Gillette there but sadly its not a clickable thumbnail. Here's the link..... http://sites.google.com/site/kiwifruitsalad2/home/5-fig-varieties
Now you have all the info possible about Paul's tree as well as mine! Good luck on your journey to finding the real Gillette.

I can't resist replying!  I got my Gillette in the early 1990's from the late John Parker who had grown it in Western Washington since purchasing it in the 1930's from a Portland Nursery that was being removed to make way for Highway 99.

Sorry but I don't know that I've ever met either Gorgi or Alan and don't recall sending cuttings of Gillette to anyone.

The tree near the Vashon Ferry Terminal has leaves that resemble my Gillette and leaves that don't.  I haven't been on the Island when that tree had ripe Figs to compare the interior with mine, but Vashon has many Fig trees and many of them are Gillette that match mine.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob
Seattle

Alan, I collected cuttings from the aforementioned tree in June of '09. I'm going to be getting ripe fruit real soon, for the first time. Paul's tree is the same age as mine, the cuttings were taken at the same time. The pics that you have are nice and clear. The first one is the dominant leaf on my Gillette. By the looks of KiwiBob's site and others I've seen these are one in the same. Something that I've talked about in the past but was dismissed was something called "Genetic Drift". If someone takes a cutting from a mother plant and then a cutting from that clone and so forth it has been shown with other plants that the strain does drift away from the original mother at some point. I believe this to be possible with figs as well but it has not been validated by any other fig growers. Maybe your Gillette has "drifted".  Also, I have just put some Gillette cuttings in cups if you're up for a trade. :-)

I believe you are thinking of apomixis Alan, that is spontaneous seed production with the mother's genome only, with the possibility of mutations during mitosis. If a fig were to split open and be "pollinated" by a bee (there is no nectar reward for a bee inside a fig mind you) the seeds would be apomictic because there is still no fig pollen in the scenario. And I believe Gillette is a boy so no seeds are even possible.




OK, after careful reading, I guess Gillette could pollinate itself. The two types of flowers in a male fig mature at different times so pollen has to be transfered from the breba to the main crop by something or someone. A bee is not likely to do it but if a main crop fig on a lower branch was split open at the right time then wind could move pollen from the brebas above. Sounds like a great experiment to see if viable seeds can be made and what the characteristics of the seedlings are.

Cordelia had female flowers, it was just the first edible fig to be identified as functionally male in the CA, over a hundred years ago.

Paul seems to have pretty good luck getting his to fruit. Mine are in a greenhouse but things seem a bit slow this year.

Here is the quote from:The fig: its history, culture, and curing, with a descriptive catalogue of the known varieties of figs (1901)

The only certain instance of male flowers having been found in an 
edible fig in California is that which I am about to mention.

In July, 1893, I found a box of figs in the market of San Francisco,
marked as having come from Cordelia, in Solano Countj^ containing
very large yellow figs, a size larger than our lai'gest Adriatic. Upon
opening these figs I found eveiy one with a fully developed zone of
male flowei-s, fully ripe, and with an abundant, perfectly' developed
pollen. In other respects the figs resembled very much the Italian
Gentile, which is now also growing in California in various localities.
These figs belonged to a distinct variety and were propagated as table
figSj though the dry zone of male flowers greatly detracted from the
quality of the fig. The fig was juicy and very sweet. It is not
impossible that this fig is identical Avith the Croisic fig described by
Solms-Laubach, and that it was brought here by settlers from Croisic,
in France.

It may be stated that both myself and Mr. E. W. Maslin, of Cali-
fornia, have raised seedlings of Smyrna figs. Some of those raised
by the latter came to partial maturity at least, and contained male
flowers in greater or lesser abundance. Such figs, however, must l)e
considered as improved caprifigs — improved by being raised fi-om
seed of Smyrna figs. The Cordelia and Croisic figs are probably
descendants from the male caprifig, having retained the male flowers,
while they also have developed sweetness and juiciness to a greater
degree than their wild parents. It is hardly to be expected that these
figs will develop perfect seeds without the aid of the Blastophaga, as
it is probable that they, as other figs, will bring their male and female
flowers to perfection at widely different times; in other words, that
when their female flowers will be receptive their male flowers will
not yet have developed their pollen.

Alan,

According to Condit's 1955 "Fig Varieties; A Monograph" (downloadable as a PDF from my website), "Gillette" is a synonym for "Croisic".  I don't understand why you insist on relating to Malta a Fig that originated in France!

Going by leaf shape alone is the wrong way to try identifying Figs.  It's necessary to look at dominant leaf shape, fruit exterior, and fruit interior as indicators of characteristics.  Since Figs vary from Breba crop to Main crop, you must also know which crop the specimen is from.  Even with all this information, Fig identification isn't an exact science.

Happy Growing,   kiwibob
Seattle

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