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I was wondering if grafting different types of fruit trees
(Apple, Peach,lemon...) on a fig tree was possible?
Not that i would ever do that, but what a great conversation
tree that would be

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If you can't find any information on the subject, then maybe a little experimentation would be in order...
we have a member on the forum who has been doing some very interesting root grafting...never seen it done before, but it held my interest, and I'm sure it was a fun project...so maybe take an unknown variety that you can use as the root stock in the experiment and perform some grafts and see what happens...
could be fun, and who knows.....?? maybe you will stumble onto something....have a great time, and maybe post some pictures of the project !!

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I don't think that would work.  JMHO.  It would be like putting a human arm on a fish.  I can't see it.

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It would be nice if it would work .
 Perhaps a fig and a mulberry .
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You never know....here's an ear on a mouse...

So,,,various grafts with fig types and more are out there.

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I mean the do it with other fruit trees, and they call them cocktails trees,i don't see why
you can't do it on a fig tree

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Can't be done....incompatible genetics.  Figs on figs... yes....citrus on figs.. not so much.

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They have to be moracae family members.  Generally other fairly close Ficus members.

Try Jackfruit on fig stock!  But that's about as wild and crazy as you can get, and highly unlikely to work.

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The cocktail trees are 1 type of fruit.  Several citrus on 1 tree or a few different types of apple on 1 tree.  Not an apple on an orange tree.  Trees have immune systems and will try to destroy foreign tissue.
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Stone fruit AKA peaches, plums, apricots, cherries, stuff like that are in the family prunus.

Olives : Olea

Wine grapes:  Vitis

Figs:  Ficus Carica... Not sure you could graft a Carica onto a Benjamina.  Both Ficus.

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<span style="font-family: Noteworthy-Light; font-size: 15px; line-height: 22px;"><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Here Is A Fruit Cocktail Tree</span><br><br></span>


Hahahahaha.... would you imagine!

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Here is where you messed up.  Where are the figs?  I don't see one!  And East Coast, New York?  You think you can grow citrus, bananas?  Are those kiwis?  Where are the figs in that picture?

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Here is where you messed up.  Where are the figs?  I don't see one!  And East Coast, New York?  You think you can grow citrus, bananas?  Are those kiwis?  Where are the figs in that picture?<br><br>:-))<br>Suzi


Hahaha.... you know what, I'm going to do that on my fig tree, i am going to hang some fruits
and NUTS, and post some photos on this forum lol

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He ate them already! LOL
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I just grafted a winter banana apple onto my pear tree but that is the most compatible apple to pears genetically from what I hear. Im still waiting to see if it takes. It would be interesting to see if a mulberry would take with a fig since they are in the same family, but I'm about 90 percent sure it would fail, I mean just look at how different the fruits are. You just about always have to stay in the same genus, except for a few quinces apples and pears that are closely related.
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I just grafted a winter banana apple onto my pear tree but that is the most compatible apple to pears genetically from what I hear. Im still waiting to see if it takes. It would be interesting to see if a mulberry would take with a fig since they are in the same family, but I'm about 90 percent sure it would fail, I mean just look at how different the fruits are. You just about always have to stay in the same genus, except for a few quinces apples and pears that are closely related.


Nothing like a fig tree :)

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Bob made a good clarification; The trees need to be closely related to get grafts to take. Citrus to various types of citrus, etc. Also grafting various stone fruits onto one rootstock should work as Suzi mentioned. Theoretically, you could have Cherries, Peaches, Almonds, Plums, and Apricots all growing on the same tree. Having the right rootstock would play a big part here too though.

I would be interested to see whether grafting fig to mulberry would work though. Just might give it a shot in a month or so ;) .

@ Cal. it's much more about genetics than how similar the fruits compare to each other. Take Hedge Apple and Seedless Che for example. The fruits don't look much alike at all but Seedless Che is routinely grafted onto Hedge Apple. Not saying fig & mulberry would work either though. But it might be fun to try just to observe the results.

It's sometimes tough enough getting grafts to take on trees that are siblings let alone trying to get unrelated fruit tree grafts to take. Unfortunately, many combonations are just not gonna work. 

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I would be interested to see whether grafting fig to mulberry would work though. Just might give it a shot in a month or so ;) .

 



I tried grafting a fig on a wild mulberry in 2012, but it didn't work. I will try on some other mulberry trees once the weather warms up.

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Figs can possibly be grafted into other ficus species. There was a mention of figs being grafted into a ficus benjamina in Florida in early 1900's, but no mention if how long the graft remained alive.
The cocktail fruit trees commonly sold are prunus species. I have a jujube tree that I grafts 8 different types to it. But you cannot graft figs on anything besides figs.

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Has anyone had success with grafting onto ficus benjamina?

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What about non-hardy figs onto a hardy root stock?
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Here is a good answer to your question, and there is proof that this is true, a university hortacologist has said so, I forget which hortacologist, yet she said that before pollination was used to change dna, grafting was used. What this person left out, it that if something is half way between the exact same, and totally different it can change the variety in a good way. Each plant variety, has at least somewhat different grafting requirements, so that could complicate the grafting success http://bulbnrose.x10.mx/Heredity/GraftHybrids/Hamilton1899.html


Wow - that's a horrible article. If grafting resulted in changed DNA, I would expect someone to have done a paper on it - complete with genetic sequencing. Not a "I grafted a fruit onto a different rootstock and it tasted a little different" paper. I mean, he cited "Encyclopedia Brittanica" as one of his main sources. 

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Ficus genus contains 800+ species but F. carica can be grafted on 5 of them fully compatible...
These are:

Ficus johannis
Ficus pseudo-carica
Ficus palmata
Ficus sycomorus
Ficus racemosa

Partially compatible:

Ficus pumila
Ficus botryocarpa
Ficus variegata
Ficus deltoidea

..... and so on.....

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I've found that grafting fig scions onto another fig plant is more challenging than grafting cuttings from other fruits
like apples onto an apple root stock or an apple mother tree. The most exotic thing I've seen
was a tomato branch grafted onto a potato plant! A straw was used to hold the connection steady.

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Has anyone tried to graft any fig trees while the sap is flowing and the tree is out of dormancy and succeeded?
I tried it twice and failed both times.

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@Sas:

Yes... in tropical environment we always do like that...

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Has anyone tried to graft any fig trees while the sap is flowing and the tree is out of dormancy and succeeded? I tried it twice and failed both times.


Most of the grafts done here on figs are done while sap is flowing from May onwards.. in fact we should call this,.. budding and both stock and scion are mostly still green. - T and/or patch budding

Here are some  clips from the Internet showing this late spring/summer grafts












Rind or bark grafting with more or less improvments should also be done while sap is flowing
Check Harvey's recent clips on grafting.... one type he shows is exactly a rind/bark graft.
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Wow - that's a horrible article. If grafting resulted in changed DNA, I would expect someone to have done a paper on it - complete with genetic sequencing. Not a "I grafted a fruit onto a different rootstock and it tasted a little different" paper. I mean, he cited "Encyclopedia Brittanica" as one of his main sources. 


I agree. A terrible bogus article.  He really suggests a hypothesis and shows no evidence to back his claim, you could not have made a worse paper. The best example of junk science I ever saw.

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Get comfortable; I'm gonna take you down a little trip into Bizarro Land.  In Sacramento, my son & I went to do a little service to an elderly couple and do some top work on their stone fruit and their apples.  He took us aside and told us that he had a fig branch coming out of his orange tree.  It was there when they moved into this house a few years before.  We explained that things like that aren't possible because of the things that we've already discussed in this forum.  He took us over to look at it.  All three of us were on our hands and knees examining it for a half hour, and we concluded, YES, he had a fig branch coming out of his orange tree!  Can anyone explain that?  It was down not too far above the soil.  The "fig" branch never produced fruit as far as I know.  It was a big, healthy, and mature branch.  Three of us saw it, touched it, laid sideways on the ground to get up close, and we all agree that it was real.  There's plenty of evidence that it didn't happen.  But can anyone argue that my conclusion is correct?  Remember, it didn't bear fruit, so I'm not advocating that it's worthwhile, just possible.  
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I once visited an overgrown garden where many of the cordoned apple trees had enveloped and grown around the metal fence they were originally trained on to. I have also seen different species of trees growing around and through each other but they still weren't joined directly to each other. Could it have been something similar?
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  Remember, it didn't bear fruit, so I'm not advocating that it's worthwhile, just possible.  


Well if it didn't have fruit how could you confirm it was a fig? It could be some weird sport off the tree. I have blackberry plants that have leaves that look exactly like hemp. I'm afraid the neighbor kid is going to steal it! So unless I saw figs I could not assume it was a fig. Even if the branches and leaves looked exactly like a fig tree, doesn't mean it is a fig tree.

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I wonder how far across a phylogenetic tree you can take interstem grafting.  With enough well chosen interstems could you get F.carica to take on a mulberry?  Just curious what would be required....no plans to experiment on my part.
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