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Greek yellow figs anyone?

@ bullet: Quite so mate.

@ Elisha: PS Glad you spotted the play on words. One of my (many) quirks.

A play on words hints at a playful mind, and I don't mind at all that you mind your words well. I'll keep my eyes open for some authentic haloumi, I know iota be less picky but I can only play with the hand that has been delta to me. 

I have no desire to get anyone in a legal pickle and should probably work on my rooting methods before taking on any more cuttings at this point in time. However, I'll likely reconsider when your Greek Yellow is ready to "butcher," as you say.

Tamar:

Play on words: Nice try - deserves a hollow laugh at least.

Legal Eagle: Actually, the risk is all yours. The feds have no jurisdiction over here. Just watch out for those black choppers the moment you open that package!

Gk Yellow: Estimated maturation point for 'butchering' Gk Yellow would be around mid-summer nxt year. Hopefully you would have sorted out your rooting skills by then.

Halloumi: If you can find it, try Prokopis from Cowboy Farms (no, I'm not kiddin'). It's one of the best we've tasted. Failing that, there's Aradippou, Skarinou/Kophinou, Voroklini, Millidjis, Stefanides & Sons, or Kornos. If you can't find any of those, go for Cypressa or Pittas as a last resort only. They're not so good straight, but fine if you fry them, etc. Probably won't be able to tell the difference in fact. Good luck, & enjoy.

@ Tamarness

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Costas, your figs sound wonderful. Where have you acquired your cuttings? 


Hello again Elisha - As promised, I have made some enquiries re. my Italian Purple. Apparently, my aunt hails from Bolzano, capital of South Tyrol, aka Alto Adige, N. Italy, and quite close to border with Austria.

That actually explains quite a lot. I always wondered why a fig from Italy was so well adapted to our much cooler summers. Now I know - Bolzano is far from the hottest place in Italy, snuggled in the foothills of the Italian Alps. Our summers here in London must be quite balmy by comparison, which would also account for its surprising productivity. 

Neat!

Hey guys,

Dunno if this will work, but the site didn't accept my pics directly coz file size was reported too big, so trying this instead.

http://s989.photobucket.com/user/loquat1/library/?sort=3&page=1

If it works, apologies for the delay, but I have been otherwise distracted of late. 'Commentary' to follow later - I was more anxious to see the result for myself first before I commit. If it fails, would be intersted to know how others get around the problem of file size.

EDIT: OK, now I've seen how this works - it takes you to their site. Not ideal, but it will have to do for now. More anon.

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To whom it may concern: 

Regarding the Greek Yellow figs I have a tree and it is called Zailata.  I will be posting the figs on this site so you can get a better view of the Yellow Greek fig.  It is a very sweet fig with a strawberry taste to it.  It is a medium size with lots of large seeds inside.  Most likely this tree comes from Peloponeso. 

If anyone is interested on more info I will be posting next week with photos and a brief description when the figs are fully ripe along with many other Popular Greek fig varieties .

Thank you all and I will speak to you fig lovers soon.

George
 


Currently corresponding with a contact in Cyprus who pm'd me thru the forum. He sent me this link for Zailata.......

http://www.kostelenosfytoria.gr/products.php?pageId=10

.......and I now realize this is not my fig at all. Damn, another unidentified again. I just can't catch a break on this ID business. Here is what I wrote back to my contact:

Oh no, what have you done? I've been living in a fool's paradise all this time. I thought I had this one ID'd, and yes, Zailata was the name I couldn't recall. But having just seen the pics, I now realize this is not my Gk Yellow at all. In fact, I would say Zailata is barely yellow - more like a yellowy green, or greeny yellow. My Gk Yellow is a true, deep yellow, with maybe a hint of orange in there. 
 
They are quite small, and instead of a long stalk, have a slightly 'flattened' shape. Imagine a tiny pumpkin, and you're about there. Damn. So the search continues for this one too. Another unidentified. Thanks Andreas, just what I needed to bring me back down with a bump. Hope you get the humour btw, coz all this is mainly tongue-in-cheek, you understand. Looks like it's back to the forums for me, so I'll let ya know when I've found it's true ID.

So, if you're still around Ektor/Giorgios, any other ideas please? No ripe fruit yet, but maybe in Sept if we get a half-decent summer. Failing which, I can take pics next time we're in Greece.



Hmm......think I might have found it:

https://cafe2121.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/img_2610.jpg

The caption says:
FIGS FROM THE FIG TREE IN ALEX’S SUMMER HOUSE WHERE UNFORGETTABLE CHILDHOODS WERE SPENT

Doesn't really help with ID tho. Any ideas out there?




Hi, Costas.
I don't know what the name is, but I think it's one of the most beautiful fig I have ever seen. Would love to have it
Vito

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@ Vito - Would love to send you some cuttings, but do ya really wanna risk a visit from the Feds? I should also say that this 'ID' is not 100%. Mine don't have those small reddish spots/blotches. But approx. size, color & shape look about right.

Dunno if I'm gonna get any ripe fruit this year - my tree is still on the smallish side - but we plan a visit to Greece next year ((where the parent tree lives), so I'll make sure I get some pics then. Shame I didn't take any when we were last there a couple years ago.

@ Figgyme - Thanks for the pics.  Size & shape look about right, so close, but still not my Gk Yellow. There's just too much green in there. As I said above, mine are a really bright/deep yellow with a hint of orange.

This is really infuriating for me (not sure why), so just gonna hafta do some more surfing until I can ID it when I've got a bit more time on my hands. Thanks for your interest anyway.

This is the zailata fig I bought from George Arvanitis from Greece. Does this look the same as yours?? These pictures are from his listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZAILATA-The-Yellow-Greek-Fig-Variety-2-fresh-cuttings-/121579175948?nma=true&si=tNzIkUSdIA%252FSK%252BMt%252Ft2iq9r1CcU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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That's very close Tyler, & much closer than the Zailata link quoted above. Bearing in mind I last saw ripe samples maybe a couple of years ago, and my memory may not be 100% reliable, but my impression is that this is still not quite a match. 

Flesh color is about right (I think), but your skin color still has a shade of green. Ours was too vivid a yellow to have any hint of green. And shape still not quite right either - not quite flat enough at the top & bottom.

In fact, I'm pretty sure ours was almost concave at both ends, which you would not expect at the stalk end. But I'll be the first to admit that ours might be just a sub-variant of the Zailata variety. If no match is found after I'm able to post some pics, that may be the only possible conclusion.

I'll post again if I come up with a closer match, but thanks for your input just the same.

Hey Costa. Good to see you post again. Did you ever get any figs from your Greek yellow? ( talking about the cutting you're growing in London ,not the mother tree)

Hi Chris

Figs, yes. Ripe ones - not yet.  It's a young tree, and it's first chance of yielding ripe fruit was last year, but unfortunately all the fruit was lost after a minor disaster while we were on holiday, also the subject of a thread on the forum:

http://www.figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/oh-no-not-my-gk-yellow-help-6911277?pid=1283341027#post1283341027


I have since grounded the tree to avoid any more mishaps, and it's now fully recovered, but of course still too early for any ripe fruit this year. As soon as we get some, then I'll post up some pics. If none this year or next, I might be able to get some picks from the parent tree in Greece next year, so this is a long haul project. 

I've just pm'd EKTOR, so if he gets my message, hopefully he'll come back with suggestions other than Zailata.

Hafta wonder if EKTOR & Giorgios Arvanitis are one & the same person?

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As Andreas has just pointed out to me, this fig lives in Azerbaijan, so it's highly unlikely it found its way into our garden in Greece. So jury still out, & the search continues. Like TbF, I may hafta admit defeat in the end, but not ready to give up just yet.

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@ Tamarness

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Costas, your figs sound wonderful. Where have you acquired your cuttings? 


Hello again Elisha - As promised, I have made some enquiries re. my Italian Purple. Apparently, my aunt hails from Bolzano, capital of South Tyrol, aka Alto Adige, N. Italy, and quite close to border with Austria.

That actually explains quite a lot. I always wondered why a fig from Italy was so well adapted to our much cooler summers. Now I know - Bolzano is far from the hottest place in Italy, snuggled in the foothills of the Italian Alps. Our summers here in London must be quite balmy by comparison, which would also account for its surprising productivity. 
Hi Costas
Coincidently I have a dark fig from Bolzano.  See attached photos.  I wonder if this is the same as your purple fig?
Thanks
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Hey Pino,

Those are great looking figs, but no, nothing like my Italian Purple. I did post pics in another thread. I'll track down the link for you so you can compare.

UPDATE - My Gk Yellow has shot up (now about 8-9' grounded height), but all figs sacrificed this year for cuttings. A neighbor had a massive fig on a layer I gave him that was threatening to ripen. IE massive compared to how it grows in Greece and totally against type - bizarre and inexplicable. Then it rained, badly split, and became insect fodder. A real shame.

Might have some next year, but this tree is also gonna be the subject of a 'project' to improve my chances of ripe fruit. I need to control the height for the project to work, so seriously considering air-layering the top 3' or so of the main stem, as well some subsidiary branches. 

Gotta say though, this is one handsome tree - the best form I've ever seen, and easily outshines all my other trees. Looking fwd to a seriously hot summer that might just do the trick. We get them every 4-5 yrs, so another due within the next 3 yrs or so.

@ Liza & Luke: If you're still around - I haven't forgotten. Just been extremely busy lately, but things will calm down eventually - promise.

Hmm.........thought I had a load more pics of the IP than I managed to find on the forum, but apparently not. See #10 of this link:

http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/id-please-tasty-but-fussy-has-arrived-with-a-bang-6498380?pid=1279524359

No matter. I'll raid my archives for more pics & post later. Gotta run off now to see Question Time........just in case WWIII has broken out.

Thanks Costas!
I thought it was worth mentioning since your fig came from your Aunt in Bolzano which is not a big city.
Happy Figging

You're welcome Pino. I didn't find anymore pics in my archives, but it's just possible I have some in my camera. I'll be d/loading those later & upload if I find any. Failing that, there's always next year.

Yes, I'm quite surprised that such an obscure region (in fig terms) is home to more than one variety. Your variety looks a lot more interesting than my IP, & I suspect tastes better too. Congrats on being the owner of such a fine-looking specimen. 

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