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Greenhouse Capri Project

I'm thinking of putting a package together consisting of 4 different varieties of Capri.
This is for advanced figgers who, have green house where they can grow these male figs and maintain colonies of Wasps to pollinate their San Pedro, Smyrna or even Common figs.
This package will provide extended pollination season.

Please let me know what you guys think of this idea.
Would anyone be interested and will they benefit?

Here are the pictures of the varieties that I can put together.
Don't ask names and history because all I know is they are very active and healthy with Wasp colonies.

EDIT: I am adding more pictures for each variety, so you'll know why they are called certain specific colors.

1) This is the Black Capri (from Beverly Hills Old Lady)  
on the cuttings marked as "B.C." as in Black Capri
Black Capri, Beverly Hills Old Lady.jpg 2014-01-12 12.15.45.jpg 

2) This one is the sweet yellow Capri from Glendale Ave...
on cuttings marked as "Y.C." as in Yellow Capri
White Capri,Glendale Ave.jpg  FfCc7.jpeg 

3) This one is the Purple Capri (from Glendale Church Parking)
on cuttings marked as "P.C" as in Purple Capri
Purple Capri, Glendale Church Parking.jpg  Different generation Capri at any given time..jpg 


4) This is the Green Capri (from Glendale Church Parking)
on cuttings marked "G.C" as in Green Capri
2014-02-09 17.49.34.jpg  20150123_224345.jpg 

They would have to have profichi on them and be shipped when they wouldn't encounter prolonged temps under 40.  I'd take one but it would have to be shipped soon - our temps are going up to 50 on Friday.  I suppose you could ship it with a 3 day heat pack.  I'd want mine dormant and bare root.  If not dormant then take all leaves off.  It'll go dormant in my garage.  They have to stay dormant until all the other figs wake up or the wasps will come out too early.

Better to ship caprifig cuttings now, get the trees established, and later add wasps once they are bearing figs. It would be easier to ship figs w wasps overnight when you wouldn't have to worry as much about freezing.

I think that is what Aaron had in mind.



Edit:  I am interested but I think that is a project for next year, already rooting too many and need to get the greenhouse built...

I'd be interested in trying that setup probably along the lines of what Ed is suggesting.

Aaron, where in LA are you? I would love to meet up sometime for a cup of coffee or something to discuss figs.

I don't think that Aaron is offering figs with wasps at this time, simply male Capri cuttings, unless I'm mistaken.

If so, Aaron, I used to ship tropical fish corals all over the country, If need be, you can ship in a Styrofoam lined box with chemical heat packs to keep the fig wasps warm.

Can't wait to see someone's results with wasps in a green house in a COLD climate, I hope to try this myself one day.

Scott

-My original thought exactly Ed, thanks. BTW, you can start rooting them now and you'll have entire year to build the GreenHouse. The colony or Wasps have to be introduced to Profici (after the end of fig season, before dormancy...I think.)

-Bob,
I want to do cuttings , not rooted plants. I don't want to deal with shipping live plants, too much work and costs scare me.

This way the cuttings can grow and by the time they start blooming them the Wasp colony can be introduced.

-Jeffrey, I'm in Glendale, coffee sounds good, you are more than welcome to come and bring your family along, we have 2 kids ourselves, 5 and 3...


ok, I edited the original post, included pictures of the Capris I will use in the package.

I'd be interested either way but from our last attempt there's no evidence any wasps survived summer transit.  Also, the S California wasps are ready to enter figs long before cold climate figs are ready for them.  That's why it seems important to me to have the figs shipped with the wasps while everyone was dormant.  Then all the figs will wake up in sync.  You might be able to get the figs ready to receive in time in a heated greenhouse but that's way more expensive than shipping, just to heat the house to the same temp as So Cal.  As for shipping costs, they're the buyer's problem, anyway.  :)

Perhaps we could grow our capri cuttings and then have only 1 capri tree shipped with some profichi on it.

Bob, fortunately our climate allows the Wasps to flourish all year long.
We here can wait until your Profichi figs are big enough to accept Wasps.
Altough, our friend Francisco, who is very knowledgable when it comes to Figs and Capri Figs, mentioned that the Profichi will be ready to accept Wasp at size of a Pea...we can wait a bit longer.
When they are at size of a Quarter you can introduce the freshly arrived Capri figs that carry colony of Wasps to be introduced to your Greenhouse Capri.

I want to set a standard within our fellow figures in cooler climates for Greenhouse Capri, so I am calling it "Greenhouse Capri Project".

This will, one day, become a very standard procedure for all of us figures everywhere in the world.

Together we can make this work :)

Will the wasp live year long in south louisiana? ?

It should, only if the Wintering of the Capri fig trees are done in GreenHouses that are kept between 40-60 F.

Mine stays warm its heated. Next how do you get the wasp once the capri fig is grown?

Shipped overnight, with a sealed Ostiole.
All you have to do it cut it open, gently and lay it next to or under the Capri tree with Profichi growing on it.

OK, I have like 6 people interested so far who have greenhouses ...
I need to come up with package deal...I need to run around and put it together... I don't know what is a fair deal...I don't want to sound greedy but I also don't want to do it for the loss... SO, please PM me with ideas?

I have one more question. What is profachi?

ok, read the Fig Facts page on my http://www.LosAngelesFigForest.com website...LOL

Very informative and cool web site.

thanks Richie, it will only become better and better... needs time

Been doing some research on fig wasp pollenation. Seems,to be a grate,thing for any fig. Seems almost like the fig is not completely ripened till it is pollenated it ripens,but not to it full potential. Grate thread

This is going well,
I already have a small group of "Pioneers" who are on their way of starting this project.
I am very excited and excited for them :)

I'll work on putting the cuttings over the weekend so I can get them out on Monday.


Im am interested specifically in possible persistent caprifigs for breeding through hand pollination to produce persistent common figs.
Through your observations of these caprifigs are any possibly persistent? 

If my understanding of persistent caprifigs is correct you could:
Bag some of each of the new profichi crop in spring and observe whether or not they drop without being pollinated. If they are not pollinated and do not drop they are persistent and could be quite rare.

Someone please comment if i am wrong regarding this topic. thanks

Justin,

Please see in this thread from the post #11 and on for the persistence discussion:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/black-mission-tj-seedling-airlayers-7200155?pid=1285789488

i'll take one.

I got a couple capri and a couple smyrna type figs growing already. I'm interested in ones that ripens the same time as my smyrna figs. 

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