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Hardy Chicago n Dark Portuguese

I posted about this in another thread that had an off title
Dark Portuguese and EL.Sals Picked.
 
I want to bring this to the forefront of what i found in some older threads for reason it was playing on my mind and i said to myself 
 "Marty your loseing it" 
 I hope there is some interest in this.



 Found from 2 years ago in this particular thread.
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=2731567&highlight=hardy+chicago

Jon recieved Dark Portuguese from Bass
Ucdavis has this plant and did DNA test with - Hardy Chicago/ Dark Portuguese/ EL.Sals

Preliminary DNA testing by USDA / UC Davis indicates that Dark No.1 Portuguese is the same as the Sals and Abruzzi varieties in their collection and very closely related to Hardy Chicago (reworded so it makes sense).

 
Like i mention in past threads to "date" hardy chicago is my favorite fig i know it taste blindfolded anywhere for 7 seasons until i ate a Dark Portuguese fig from my yard and it surprised me the first day it was similar, today both types were as close as can be yet Dark Portuguese is only in 2nd season.

Where some of these plants came from can be debated as they were well traveled before our time it should be noted.
 
So if not the same Dark Portuguese and  Hardy Chicago they are very closely related according to UcDavis DNA testing.
 
I now have peace of mind and can enjoy dark portuguese and hardy chicago
both my favorite eating figs "for now".
 
 
 

They make really good (and red) fig preserves, too, Martin. I have 2 identical Hardy Chicagos 1 growing in the sun that produces purple figs and one in the shade that produces brown figs (one was started from the other using a cutting). Your EL Sals is very close to a Hardy Chicago, but the stem gets a little redder and it tastes just a little different here. Two of the best here, in a pot and in the ground.



Well Dark Portuguese today gave me a bunch of figs that ripened together  i enjoyed as i was watering the trees about half hour ago.
Very good eating fig for me .
Plant will need root pruning now in its 2nd full season growing in 10g pot and needs the canopy pruned also to shape a little more .

You know call me finicky im fine with that i am .
But when i get to eat a fig for first time on fig tree in 2nd season and its Amore that is good . Sure i dont grow inground and store them in garage and cheat as i say but never the less a good fig is a good fig .

Im already looking forward grrr gotta get past this coming winter to taste some others that should produce in yard. 
I keep looking forward to each season like a person looking for that shell with the black pearl you never know perhaps one day i find the "Golden " one for me.    ; )

Martin, we have had what is suppose to be Hardy Chicago for about 5-6 years now. It has never really produced much fruit.


I received cuttings of Sal's (EL) this last spring. Rooted them and then place them in a 5 gallon pot. The Sal's (EL) is now about two to two and a half feet tall.

I have been trying to compare the leaves against of our Hardy Chicago all summer. My Sal's (EL) that I got from Gene, does not look like our Hardy Chicago. Plus, the Sal's from Gene is a heavy producer right in the pot and being less then 4-5 months old. 

Also, our Hardy Chicago has no absolutely no mosaic virus what so ever. The Sal's that we got from Gene seems to be infected with the mosaic virus. But, it does not appear to effect the plants ability to grow very fast and to produce a lot of figs, for such a young fig.

I, for one think that Sal's (EL) is a better plant then Hardy Chicago.

In speaking to Paul Traceski about 10 to 12 years ago, when he was testing fig plants for cold hardiness, he told me that he thought that Sal's was much more cold hardy then Hardy Chicago. From what I understand he ended up keeping out of his test batch, only one fig. It was Sal's (EL).  

Our Hardy Chicago seems to be reasonably cold hardy. But it has always gotten killed back to the ground by late spring frost, after surviving our winters. 
 
I have always felt that there are many different strains of Hardy Chicago. 

But, I agree with those who say the name is not important. As long as you can grow it in your location and it taste good.  

Bob   










I don't know, I didn't love my dark port.  Large, great looking fig, but rather flat flavor, poor texture.  Its not a young tree either, its about 3-4 years old at least.

Adriano warned me that it wasn't that tasty when I got it from him about a year ago, but its valuable for trade I suppose.  Maybe our humid Toronto summers are unfavorable for its ripening.  I found the port figs appreciate drier weather and less watering than say Italian figs which absolutely love their roots moist and don't mind humid conditions.

For each their own in the end.


Nas and Robert can you post pictures Dark Pot and Hardy Chicago ?

Martin,
the first two pics are dark port and the third is HC.

Sorry no ripe fruit of the dark port to display.  I ate it before I took a pic.



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Hi Nass,
hmm well i cant argue you dont like you dont like !  ; )
How you like the hardy chicago fig ?

The HC was my fave standard sure shot up until this year.  Now its still delicious and reliable, but I guess I take it for granted and its more like like my snacking fig as I wander in the garden.  My 1 year old daughter crushes three in about 2 minutes, about 3 bites a fig.
I havent given up on the dark port all together, but I may have to lend it to my brother to raise so I can keep the room (and my sanity).


Similar here HC was always my favorite until my Vdb passed it.
I like to mention though my Hardy Chicago and Dark Portuguese are very similar in taste ths is why i like so much.
Cute about your daughter at such young age really likes figs and there healthy to eat !

Martin, your HC and Drk Prt are very similar in taste and looks?

My DP figs are about 3 times larger than the HC and more elongated.  Skin is slightly rubbery with white flesh, red pulp.  A totally different fig.  Different sources I guess.  The true name/origin of the "dark port" has always been in question...



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