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Hardy Chicago or imposter?

In a recent thread I asked for some advice about whether to harvest some Hardy Chicago figs:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/Hardy-Chicago-eat-now-or-wait-6450846
One member replied privately with some question as to whether this was really Hardy Chicago based on the fruit shape and the leaves shown in the picture.

What do you think?  Hardy Chicago or not?  If not, what?

Here's another shot of the fruit, the eye, and a bunch of leaves.
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The last picture of leaves were visible in a picture in the original thread and may be the "questionable" ones.  They are the first 3 or 4 leaves on a sucker and look different than all the rest.  Having said that, many of the rest look different from one another...

Any thoughts???
Jim


No, it's not that normal to me, but figs of the same varieties can take on situational personalities depending on where they are.

I have to say that Chicago Hardy doesn't pop into my mind when I see your pictures. Nothing I am familiar with, but if it tastes good..keep it.  Who knows, could be. Do you have any pictures of the fig with the eye right before it starts to swell?

last fall/winter, i got a rooted Hardy Chicago from a very generous member. the leaf shape is different. however, like others said, leaf shape can have some variation. won't know what the fig will lool iike till next yr. i knocked all mine off.

The first and fourth pictures of the leaves seem to match the database and mine but the fruit looks different. I wonder if it could be situational difference?

There is one more fig on the tree that is almost as ripe as this first one.  Plus there is another one that hasn't begun to swell yet.  I can get pictures of those...I learned how to activate the macro mode on my camera, so hopefully the closeups will be better.
I have another tree (supposed HC also) I got with this one that has a single fig, and I compared the leaves a while back to at least see that they were similar and not totally different.  I'll have to take a closer look.
This tree has been through every condition imaginable.  It went through dormancy in my basement but woke up in January, so it spent the first couple months of the year under fluorescent light.  Spring was cold and unpredictable, so it didn't get put outside until mid-May.  Then it spent most of May and June practically underwater due to all the rain we got.  It finally got some solid sun and heat in July.  So, I think it has a different leaf shape corresponding to each of those conditions!!!  If I recall correctly the fruit appeared very early (feb? April?) on the new wood after the initial flushing.  (I didn't write it down--I figured I'd remember.  WRONG!) So these figs have been hanging in there for months!
Jim

The figs mine produce are a lot darker than yours. They're a deep purple with a red interior. Pictured below are the leaves of my Hardy Chicago.
Finding out what type of tree can sometimes be a mystery that's never solved. I've been trying to find the ID on a couple trees I have for two years without success. The main thing is as long as it produces and you like them is all that counts.

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The leaves and fruit aren't screaming HC to me either. However, it may turn out to be a real treasure, rather than a fairly common variety. Or mine could be wrong and you could have a true HC. With all of the mislabeled figs out there, hard to say. Only time will tell.

Jim:Your fig is not Hardy Chicago,because leaf is different.
Also,the fruits you show are main crop,and ,they are not ripe ,on my 10 years old HC in ground.
Unless you had yours in a Greenhouse ,in a pot,your main crop will not be ripe now,but after August 15,this year in NJ.
I give you my opinion,tho,if you forced it or not,your plant is not HC.
If you did not force it ,in pot or Greenhouse,then your plant is much earlier to ripe than HC.
Otherwise you will know the true time of ripening only when you grow plant in ground.

Jim,
I'm not an expert, but that looks more like leaves of a Celeste type. Note the attached Celeste and Hardy Chicago leaf pictures, I currently don't have ripe fig pictures, hopefully in a month or two.

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i know nothing about figs, but the leaves on tony's pic are the same as my CH

Herman2,
  It wasn't intentionally forced or in a greenhouse...but it did break dormancy in January and put the fruit on that new wood in Feb/April.  It was under fluorescent lights from Jan through May and then moved outside.  So that could be the only possible explanation for it being ahead of schedule -- it spent much of our crummy spring indoors.  The fruit color and leaf shape(s) certainly don't seem typical Hardy Chicago...
  Pete --  I should get home early enough tomorrow to get some additional pictures and some pictures of the other "Hardy Chicago" I got with this one.  I also have 2 supposed improved celestes, so I can compare leaf shapes with them, too. 
Cheers,
Jim

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