Such mixed reviews, I appreciate all of them. I have ordered some dip n grow liquid, and my cups just came in also. I'm going to try a few without hormone in cups and a few with in cups (with the perlite/vermiculite mix) and see what happens. Right now my cuttings are only in spaghnum, I might dip a few and put them in the moss also. The problem is that as of right now I only have two young trees that produce very little so I'm really sweating it out, once I have enough established, producing trees trying different methods won't worry me so much. Don'y get me wrong, the excitement is good, but I just wanna eat some figs.