The water trick works great. I have never used it on larger trees, but I do use it on smaller trees, house plants, and garden transplants that have bugs that I dont want around. The only difference is that I use some sort of mild soap in the water like plain Dawn or Basic H. The soap acts as a surfactant so the little buggers do not float and drowns them pretty fast. I have a really tall bucket (probably about 7 gallons) that I can put small trees into and submerge the whole thing, I push them to the bottom and put a rock on top of the soil to stop the floating. I give them about 30 minutes and then take them out and then rinse/flush thoroughly with clean water. If you can submerge your plant this will take care of any foliage pest like mites, aphids, white flys, ants....I haven't used it for scale, they might need a bit longer.