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how often can you order from USDA/UCD?

i'm getting more interested in other fruits. i want to try pomegranate next. it seems they can be propagated using dormant cutting or air layer just like figs. and they are self fertilized with both male and female parts in the flowers. 

but i already made an order to USDA/UcD. what is the process or putting in additional request? 

From past experience... If you want to add to your order, send a second request with ONLY the additions you want to make. Otherwise, you're likely to get duplicates of what was originally requested. I have ordered figs, pomegranates and mulberries at the same time and they are normally shipped together.

You need to get your order in by their deadline for that year.  It's passed.  But you can put an order in for next year.  I usually do mine in June.  Figs are one thing I order, but I have also ordered pomegranates, many wine grapes, and next time Pistachio scions.

Suzi

One can indicate it is an addition to an existing order under "special instructions" on the order form. Also,give the original order number, if available.

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You need to get your order in by their deadline for that year.  It's passed.  But you can put an order in for next year.  I usually do mine in June.  Figs are one thing I order, but I have also ordered pomegranates, many wine grapes, and next time Pistachio scions.

Suzi


Curious Suzi, how do you handle the pistachio scion? Do you root or graft them? How long does it take them to bare? Thanks!

Christy,  I wish I knew more about pistachios, other than they grow well in this climate.  I don't think they can be rooted, but you never know. I believe the pistachio scions will need to be grafted on existing pistachio trees.  I found a nursery who is waiting for their shipment of bare root grafted trees, and I have reserved a male and a female.  Depending on their stock, I might get one more female, so I can try grafting some of the varieties UCD carries onto our new trees.  I think I'll practice on figs and roses first! 

Suzi

The Pomegranate, Mulberry, Persimmon at least are shipped out at the same time as figs, and have the same submital deadline . I have ordered all from them on the same request. The Pomegranate selection is excellent including many from Dr. Levin's defunct Soviet program. 

i just don't want to bombard the USDA/UCD with my orders. i keep noticing things that i want and after awhile, i see more. does't matter if the cuttings come this yr or next yr. i have time :) 

I just make notes on my order throughout the year and then normally place it around October. I would think it annoy  them having several orders from the same individual to try and link together if it can be avoided. It is a lot of work for them regardless. Right now if you order you will not receive until around March 2015 anyway. Why not spend the time between now and the Nov? Order deadline to research the Pomegranates and other things you want. I can provide you some info on the different Pomegranates if you want. I might even have a established young plant of cuttings from the last year or 2 to trade of a few cultivar.

BTW, did any body receive their orders from UC Davis yet?

...and , Pete, you can grow Pams from seeds, amazing how fast they will become little trees, I have 4 months old seedlings from the pams I ate (called Goliath, they are humangous )they are 8inches tall already.

yeah.. i heard. but i like cuttings.. not sure why.. it must be fig thing. lol. date is next. 

I ordered a bunch of Cherry tree scion and they seem to have many different deadlines for that repository depending on what you wanted,dormant or budwood and something called  vitis....they were really nice and I got them right away...the places holding seeds and such were not open to giving up anything to someone not from and institution... you never know till you ask..

FYI - staff is still out in the field collecting cuttings as of today.  There have been a lot of flu, etc. going around among staff so it's been a rough year.

Aaron, are you talking of growing pomegranates (poms) from seeds?  You wrote "Pams" then "pans" and I don't know for sure what you are talking about.  I've never heard of a variety of anything called Goliath, from what I recall.  I've grown some pomegranates from seed when they were the only source available.  If it's a stable variety (grown from seed for many generations before), it can work out fine.  If it's a more recent hybrid (such as the Indian variety 'Mridula'), results can be poor.  Cuttings are the best method of propagation for pomegranates.

i ordered cherry tree scion, then found out that cherry tree needs a pollinator. didn't know that. only thing i grew is figs, so i figure cherry will put on cherry. i wonder if my japanese cherry will help.. i doubt it very much. poms are not my favorite, but my wife and older son love them. beside, some flowers will be nice around the house. 

What are you going to graft cherry scion onto?  You could graft more than one variety.

yeah Harvey, I meant Poms...this variety is abnormally big and so delicious... It's in mass production so I buy it from Super King Market every season. I'll post pics of it...u'll see.

Aaron, I don't really believe there is a pomegranate variety named 'Goliath'.  It appears the infamous TyTy Nursery (DBA Aaron Farms among dozens of other names) has given this name to some pomegranate.  I'd guess it might be 'Ambrosia', but it's hard to say for sure with hundreds to pick from.

Here is a whacky video featuring the Goliath pomegranate:



I have dozens of pomegranate varieties and am familiar with many more and founded the pomegranate Yahoo discussion group and have never heard of Goliath before.  I do not believe it is mass-produced.  I find it interesting that it is even being marketed under this name.

When you see it in the market in the fall, please see if you can get more details off of the box and share them with me.

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yeah Harvey, I meant Pams...

I don't get it.  Are you saying there's a company/brand by the name of "Pam's" that sells poms?  Pam's poms?  Sort of like Bob's burgers or Tony's pizza?

The correct abbreviation of pomegranates is poms, and it's unclear whether you are just getting the abbreviation incorrect or whether you're trying to say that there's a company/brand called Pam's that sells poms.

When I google "Pam's poms," there is a hit...but it's for Pam's Pomeranian puppies.  I can't find any reference to a "Pam's poms" that refers to pomegranates.

 

I punted and went with Goliath

Or is Pam's the variety name of the fruit?  If so, which fruit, cherries, dates, poms or figs?   :)   As far as dates go, for flavor you can't beat Medjool and Deglet Noir.  The Deglet has a thick skin but it has an amazing rich, buttery taste.  I didn't know palms would survive the floods and occasional snow/cold you get.  I'd love to taste a fresh date.

pam is the stuff you spray on the pan to fry the poms. does anyone fry poms? i'm sure in scotland they do. they deep fry everything. 

LOL,,, you guys have some imagination, sorry for confusion. by Pams, i meant Pomegranates

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Aaron, I don't really believe there is a pomegranate variety named 'Goliath'.  It appears the infamous TyTy Nursery (DBA Aaron Farms among dozens of other names) has given this name to some pomegranate.  I'd guess it might be 'Ambrosia', but it's hard to say for sure with hundreds to pick from.

Here is a whacky video featuring the Goliath pomegranate:



I have dozens of pomegranate varieties and am familiar with many more and founded the pomegranate Yahoo discussion group and have never heard of Goliath before.  I do not believe it is mass-produced.  I find it interesting that it is even being marketed under this name.

When you see it in the market in the fall, please see if you can get more details off of the box and share them with me.
Yeah Harvey, @39 second of the clip , it looks just like what I buy from our fresh produce market. They are Delicious. I am growing 6 of them  from seed. we'll see what becomes of them. I'll see what I can do for your request regarding more info, workers in that marked are all dumbasses, kids who know s*it about produce, they just clean shelves and place fresh produce there, even the managers are dumb. I'll take picture of the cartons , maybe it will help you to hunt down to see who produces them.
TYTY is so freakin GAY bytheway. Gives me goosbumps every time i watch their ad. LOL, call me weird.

Dr William Castle of the University of Florida is currently doing studies on pomegranates that grow well in Floridas heat and humidity. I am attending a seminar he is giving on the 24th of this month in Jay Florida. They are starting a research garden there with pomegranates. They have been going them in Central Florida for 3 years. He recently named some varieties that he recommended. I was able to request three of those varieties from UC Davis. I'll try to remember and post anything I learn at the seminar in this post.

What are the secrets to rooting the cuttings of pomegranates?

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