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How's everyones cuttings coming along?

Hello everyone, cuttings are starting to leaf and root in past few weeks. I'm at about 80/120ish showing signs of activity, probably a dozen or so varieties in all. How is the rooting going for you??

After starting off with a 50% success rate last winter, I think I have it finally figured out. Now I'm happy to say it's about 90%. I rooted about 25 different varieties and have many more baby trees than I was expecting to have. Ended up with around 65 rooted cuttings. Now I need to figure out what to do with all of the extras. Good problem to have I suppose..

What did you do differently to get a better success rate?

Not good, lost another rooted cuttings with three leaves last night. Watered it for the first time in almost two weeks and this morning it is completely wilted. Might give up on cuttings and just buy 5-6 trees this spring from Brugmansia or Adriano

Last year I was using the paper towel method. This year I went to spagnum moss and coco choir in plastic tubs. Also using a very light potting mix when I pot them. There was a little learning curve as far as the lighting was concerned. I'm using a 105w cfl and it was only 2 feet away. Burned some of the young leaves. Now they are all looking great since I moved it to 4 feet away.. This warm weather is helping also as I can stick them outside in a spot where they get 2-3 hrs of sun a day.

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Originally Posted by brandon87
Last year I was using the paper towel method. This year I went to spagnum moss and coco choir in plastic tubs. Also using a very light potting mix when I pot them. There was a little learning curve as far as the lighting was concerned. I'm using a 105w cfl and it was only 2 feet away. Burned some of the young leaves. Now they are all looking great since I moved it to 4 feet away.. This warm weather is helping also as I can stick them outside in a spot where they get 2-3 hrs of sun a day.


FWIW, I start in damp sphagnum moss.  I keep the cuttings in moss in plastic bags in a dark, warm closet for 2-4 weeks; then I plant them into big plastic (e.g., iced coffee) cups filled with a standard planting mix.  Last year I had ~90% success with ~60 cuttings.  This year I only started a few weeks ago and will attempt only ~20-25.  But so far so good -- The first four were LSU Improved Celeste.  As of today, 3 of 4 are showing roots inside the cups.  Two of these art pushing tiny leaves. 

I swore I wouldn't start any cuttings until after the new year, but who can resist the allure of starting a new variety.  I've got nine new varieties potted, some with just a few roots, some ready to be up-potted.  I've got more cuttings in damp paper towels that should be ready to be potted in the next couple weeks, which is after the new year.  Last year I had a whole bunch of Hardy Chicago cuttings, so I've got a bunch of that one variety.  With gifts/purchases of cuttings this year I'm looking forward to having a bunch of different varieties.  It's like card collecting with a tasty byproduct.

Edit: Byproduct is not spelled biproduct ;-)


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I got cuttings of Randino, White Marseilles, VdB from a forum member in Ukraine at the end of November. Only VdB rooted, all others got moldy, rotted and had to discard them. I just up-potted one VdB today to a 2L pot and cut back to first bud, hoping it will push some green. Another VdB is well rooted and growing leaves.
Got some Panache, Michurinska10 and Kutfej Black from fellow Hungarian collector, all 3 are rooted and doing fine.
Here is a pic I took a few days ago of the cuttings in cups.

brandon87: "Now I need to figure out what to do with all of the extras."

I know what I'll be doing with some of mine.  I found out today that one of the people I gave three fig plants to "forgot" to bring them inside.   My mother-in-law who had one of the two that I gave her branch out nearly perfectly with three 1-foot scaffolds.  That one even made figlets that didn't get a chance to ripen.  I saw them still in the planters on the porch last week.  One guy planted theirs in-ground but in a sheltered area.  I'll probably be doing at least a couple repeat giveaways. 

I have 5 Greek Church, 1 Violet de Bordeaux, 1 Florea, and 1 that I think is Brown Turkey in pots. This is my very first try at growing cuttings so I'm very happy with the results so far. I also have two large aluminum pans that I'm trying starting them horizontally. There are about 20 cuttings in there, and 8 varieties. Those are going to need potting soon, as they are sending up leaves and roots all over the place. Not sure what the heck I'm gonna do with all these plants, because most will have to be in pots, and brought in over the winter, and I have limited space.

Mine are still in the fridge :/

Mine are doing great. This is my first season trying to root without air layering. They are in a cold room about 50-60F and most of the light is blocked. They almost all have very pale buds and tiny leaves but are putting out great roots. Their soil/coco fiber/vermiculite is dry and bagged and the air in the bin is humid so no dried out cuttings or soggy roots so far. I think the lack of light and cool temps is helping them. I have a few in covered containers over a heat mat (wouldn't fit in the other container), some light blocked but not much and those are not putting out roots like the ones with no heat but they did put out weak leaves. The one farthest from the light put out roots. It is also farthest from the heat.

*They've been in the dark, cold bin for about 5 1/2 weeks.

Things are going well. My first go at rooting cuttings started this past September. It was touch and go for a while as I got my method down.

Round 1 - was 17 cuttings, of which 10 are now stable with good root and leaf development.

Round 2 - started in early December with 6 CH and 6 UKN Italian white. Lost only one of these.

Round 3 - another 15 UKN of five varieties. Started second week in December and all looking very good. very aggressive growth.

Round 4 - 12 Ciccio Nero from Pino. Started two weeks ago. No roots yet but they all look strong and healthy.

My method of late is a variation of the cup-in-cup. I just use water bottles with holes punched in the bottom.

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I don't hide them from the light. The sit in the window sill or on a high shelf where it's warm.

For mix I use straight out of the bag Fafard Agro Mix. Nothing added.

Upon seeing roots I've been watering with a half strength liquid fertilizer however as of late I've had to switch to watering with 3% hydrogen peroxide. Gnats have become a problem and I couple of cuttings are in jeopardy as a result. I haven't seen since using the H2O2 but I'm keeping a vigilant watch. I thought I had them beat before using Diatomaceous earth but they came back. Everything was clean when I started. I can't imagine where they came from.

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I think my biggest problem moving forward is space. I probably started too many to do indoors over winter. If these outgrow their bottles before spring I'll have to pot up...and I don't know where I'll put them all.

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я получил черенки Randino, Белый Марселе, VDB от члена форума в Украине в конце ноября. Только коренится VdB, все остальные получили плесенью, сгнили и пришлось отказаться от них

[/ QUOTE]How many days on the road were cuttings from the Ukraine?

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How many days on the road were cuttings from the Ukraine?


Vladis, Serge was nice and sent me cuttings from Ukraine to Hungary and it took over 3 weeks to get here. The cuttings had mold from being packaged with a wet rag into multiple layers of plastic and I think they also got some frost damage on the way. Unfortunately Randino and White Marseilles (=Blanche) were weak, but 2 of the 3 cuttings of Violette de Bordeaux rooted successfully. One has only roots, the other has roots and leaves. I have a single node Randino left that is planted hotizontally and now has some small roots but I don't see a bud swelling yet. All others rotted and died.

Hey, I'm extremely happy to see so much conversation! I haven't had a chance to respond, working nonstop since Christmas week+restaurant industry = a madhouse. I'll hopefully get pics up of my setup in.the next day or so! It's been great reading your shared successes on my breaks!

I think it's this kind of forum discussion that keeps us fig-sters occupied over the long hard winter....  Hope you get a break soon. Look forward to your pics...

288 in cups most have roots as of now. Pray for best 44 kinds going right now

I have started a bunch of cuttings and 4 have rotted. I only see roots on two so far but some have leaves with no roots. I still have a lot to learn.

What a cute little fig in the picture!  What kind of liquid fertilizer do you use.

Right now I have 4 cuttings in Millenniumsoils Coir and 1 cutting using the paper towel/baggie method.  In addition I decided to put two large thick cuttings in water for a few days to see what happens.  No roots yet although the ones in Coir have little bumps.

If I have a low success rate with my cuttings... I might stick to just buying the plants.

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What a cute little fig in the picture!  What kind of liquid fertilizer do you use.

Right now I have 4 cuttings in Millenniumsoils Coir and 1 cutting using the paper towel/baggie method.  In addition I decided to put two large thick cuttings in water for a few days to see what happens.  No roots yet although the ones in Coir have little bumps.

If I have a low success rate with my cuttings... I might stick to just buying the plants.


At this stage I just used a little all purpose Miracle grow. Indeed it was cute. Sadly it had to go...I was advised it would just deplete resources and put the cutting at risk.


Oh thank God,I'm not the only one lol,this thread makes me feel slightly better.Funnily enough it's not necessarily the rooting I'm having trouble with,it's the bit after that lol.Ive been using small cups(like drink dispenser at the office) size,2 nodes normally,50/50 coco coir mix,humidity box,no additional lights next to radiator.I seem to be swinging between over and under watering,the worst bit is AFTER you have roots and leaves,up pot it out off the box and a few days later they just seem to top themselves.Ive also had a bit of a problem with mould on some cuttings this week.

Obituaries
Ali Pasha 17/22 (don't ask hahaha)
Black Mission 3/3
Conadria 2/4
Alma 2/3
Precoce de Dalmatie 1/1
White Adriatic 1/1
Goutte d'or 1/1
Nova Unk 4/4
Green Ischia 0/3
Falls Gold 0/4
Celese 0/2

Solution I'm trying=bigger cups(quart/pint)higher ratio of perlite to coco(sorta 60/40-70/30 ish),3 nodes minimum,melting holes for drainage with hot kebab skewer in the base and sides(used to poke rough holes in the bottoms only).I also oven baked my coco coir (whist Mrs was out lol)to try and kill bacteria/fungus etc as I think that's where the recent mould problem came from and disinfected the humidity bin.Gonna start fresh.

Some varieties seem to just want to live,Falls gold,Green Ischia and Celese are the stars,Mission was doing great and then just died overnight pretty much,over water/under water,gnats(I hate those things) have no idea,very disappointing.Biggest looser Ali Pasha,my fault,first variety I tried rooting indoors,switched methods half way through and then let them dry out and then probably over waters them lol so can't blame anyone but myself.The single cuttings were thin and green so rotted easier.Nova Unk just had no will to live,I've rooted about a dozen or more this year of this variety,none make it,it's vigorous and has stupid thin roots and skinny huge internodes but it's my only true 'wild' Unk so I'm gonna keep trying.

Good luck with your rooting folks,remember sterility+ Good drainage= life,good thick hardwood cuttings certainly make it easier as well,lessons learnt the hard way



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Oh thank God,I'm not the only one lol,this thread makes me feel slightly better.Funnily enough it's not necessarily the rooting I'm having trouble with,it's the bit after that lol.Ive been using small cups(like drink dispenser at the office) size,2 nodes normally,50/50 coco coir mix,humidity box,no additional lights next to radiator.I seem to be swinging between over and under watering,the worst bit is AFTER you have roots and leaves,up pot it out off the box and a few days later they just seem to top themselves.Ive also had a bit of a problem with mould on some cuttings this week. Obituaries Ali Pasha 17/22 (don't ask hahaha) Black Mission 3/3 Conadria 2/4 Alma 2/3 Precoce de Dalmatie 1/1 White Adriatic 1/1 Goutte d'or 1/1 Nova Unk 4/4 Green Ischia 0/3 Falls Gold 0/4 Celese 0/2 Solution I'm trying=bigger cups(quart/pint)higher ratio of perlite to coco(sorta 60/40-70/30 ish),3 nodes minimum,melting holes for drainage with hot kebab skewer in the base and sides(used to poke rough holes in the bottoms only).I also oven baked my coco coir (whist Mrs was out lol)to try and kill bacteria/fungus etc as I think that's where the recent mould problem came from and disinfected the humidity bin.Gonna start fresh. Some varieties seem to just want to live,Falls gold,Green Ischia and Celese are the stars,Mission was doing great and then just died overnight pretty much,over water/under water I have no idea,very disappointing.Biggest looser Ali Pasha,my fault,first variety I tried rooting indoors,switched methods half way through and then let them dry out and then probably over waters them lol so can't blame anyone but myself.The single cuttings were thin and green so rotted easier.Nova Unk just had no will to live,I've rooted about a dozen or more this year of this variety,none make it,it's vigorous and has stupid thin roots and skinny huge internodes but it's my only true 'wild' Unk so I'm gonna keep trying. Good luck with your rooting folks,remember sterility+ Good drainage= life,good thick hardwood cuttings certainly make it easier as well,lessons learnt the hard way


Don't give up!

I had a lot of improvement when I did melted the holes in the side with a metal skewer. The exact same thing you mention. JUST REMEMBER. The smoke that comes off the melting plastic is toxic. Make sure you have really good ventilation or even better, outdoors. I switched over to a soldering iron on the back deck....Neighbors must think I'm weird...

The more nodes you can have below grade the better. Hence the big water bottles I'm using now.

Lastly, don't forget the golden rule...If you think the mix is way too dry and it really needs water right away.... wait another few days...

I want to say thanks to all those who took the time to help me out this fall. I hope to be able to repay the goodwill in the future. 

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Specifically, i want to thank the following for sharing knowledge of and actual figs.

Charles: TahomaGuy2
- Croatian
- Desert King

Danny: NYCfig
- Sandy
- unk sweet diana

Jodi: Jodi
- VdB
- Lampa Parda

Bill Saxon: SaxonFigs
- Hative d'Argenteuil

Brent: hoosierbanana: ebay handle cptmorgan197
- Marseilles Black VS

Art Connor: Kubota1: ebay handle artamyconnor
- Florea

Herman: Herman2: ebay handle hermansur
- Adriatic JH
- Col de Dame Gris
- Aubique Petite
- Ronde De Bordeaux

 

Plus all the fine people in Vicenza, Italy who supported me. I have way too many figs...


humbly yours,

johnny

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