Scarecrow_Sun_God
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-Seeds-RARE-Black-Jack-Semi-Dwarf-FIG-FRUIT-TREE-SEEDS-Ship-next-day-from-US-/111145510694?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e0c9e726 Has any one actually bought any fig, blueberry, kiwi or any of the other plant seeds of plants that usually are duplicated from runners or cuttings and managed to grow them? I have been noticing these listings on ebay and people actually bidding on them. Seems to me like a hard way to go if it does work and I have watched items bid up to about what the plant would cost.
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Rewton
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Posted 1390522977
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Yeah, I've wondered that too. It would take even longer to find out whether you have Brown Turkey than it would if you started with cuttings!
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Scarecrow_Sun_God
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Yea, but what gets me is that people are buying the items and giving good feed back to boot. Did you see how much they want FOR 20 SEEDS?
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Scarecrow_Sun_God
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I wonder if the $3.00 in shipping is because they had to enclosed a magnifier as well so you can find the seeds.
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sammy
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Adds that have the word "RARE" and "DWARF" in them are BOGUS. Stay away from them.
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Chivas
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Fig seeds may grow but you don't know what type of seedling you may get, it may require pollination, it may not. The seeds may not even be viable depending on how trustworthy the seller is. Black Jack is not a rare fig, I believe Monrovia sells it and trust me I can keep a lot of trees 7-8 feet with pruning, that doesn't make them dwarf.
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Scarecrow_Sun_God
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Posted 1390524159
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I just pulled that one up as an example. If you search for fruit seeds you will see the seeds for blueberries and kiwi, strawberries and other plants that would do best from runners or cuttings. I was just wondering if anyone has tried these products or has grown a fig from a seed and how long would it take. Hell, if it works, maybe I go pick up some "rare" figs @ the grocery and save some seeds.
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GRamaley
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They picture three different figs.... he and Vic need to team up....
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greenfig
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Posted 1390524516
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Last year I got the Alpine wild strawberries but not on eBay, from an online store. I have been very happy with them. Started eating the berries I believe in August, planted in the ground. Since we don't have snow in SoCal, they still produce, about a handful every week.
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strudeldog
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Uninformed Buyers will bid on anything. Many of those are misrepresented. A seed created by sexual reproduction should not carry the cultivar name of the parent plant on many type plants as it is a unique plant. I do understand lots of vegetables, grains, etc… do carry the variety name, but I wonder how much drift in genetics there is whenever you have 2 pollen parents and even with self-pollination. I always get a little annoyed when I see figs, pomegranate, apple, etc…. seeds listed as a cultivar. They should be listed seeds from cultivarx which may vary from the parent in my opinion, but I guess I am a hard head. Someone asked me about bidding on some Wonderful Pomegranate seeds. I told them go buy the fruit from the market and just plant a few, but if you want that plant go buy a vegetatively propagated plant. I started some Golden Kiwi (Chinensis) from fruit I bought at the market a few years back, as the plants of Chinensis are not readily available. The grower doesn’t make Hort16 the cultivar available, and I would not label it as such, but hopefully if I can manage the plants to fruiting as the are not hardy at all maybe will be nice. But I have almost given up protecting them
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greenfig
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Posted 1390524692
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I also had started 3 fig seedlings last year (got to grow to about 6 ft tall since Feb.) and started this year some 40-60 different ones. They grow like weeds. Will see this year if those 3 produce anything, dormant now.
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Scarecrow_Sun_God
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Posted 1390525287
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Originally Posted by
strudeldog Uninformed Buyers will bid on anything. Many of those are misrepresented. A seed created by sexual reproduction should not carry the cultivar name of the parent plant on many type plants as it is a unique plant. I do understand lots of vegetables, grains, etc… do carry the variety name, but I wonder how much drift in genetics there is whenever you have 2 pollen parents and even with self-pollination. I always get a little annoyed when I see figs, pomegranate, apple, etc…. seeds listed as a cultivar. They should be listed seeds from cultivarx which may vary from the parent in my opinion, but I guess I am a hard head. Someone asked me about bidding on some Wonderful Pomegranate seeds. I told them go buy the fruit from the market and just plant a few, but if you want that plant go buy a vegetatively propagated plant. I started some Golden Kiwi (Chinensis) from fruit I bought at the market a few years back, as the plants of Chinensis are not readily available. The grower doesn’t make Hort16 the cultivar available, and I would not label it as such, but hopefully if I can manage the plants to fruiting as the are not hardy at all maybe will be nice. But I have almost given up protecting them
I agree the seeds should not be true to form. I do not know what they are doing with the fruit seeds, but burpees which is owned by Mon...... and several of the others use genetically modified seeds that will not allow the plant to reproduce. I guess they could also put the variety genetics in the plant as well.
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oldvt
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Posted 1390530589
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Hi,I have grown blueberrys, kiwis, blackraspberrys and cranberrys from seed bought on ebay, just stick to the good sellers and dont buy fig seeds.Rex.
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possum_trot
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Posted 1390530951
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You really can't trust the ratings for seeds because the buyer is only rating what he received in the mail. By the time he trys to grow the plant it is probably to late to rate it so he isn't going to know if it is even going to sprout when he gets it. They may be fig seeds out of a fig newton cookie that are 10 years old. Thats not to say there aren't good seeds on ebay, I buy seeds on ebay, I'm just saying you can't trust the ratings for fig seed.
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Chivas
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Posted 1390531687
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Some seeds will come true to type, I know most citrus will come true to type generally speaking, such as key limes, there will be some variance but generally it will be true to type. Research if the fruits you want to grow from seed will produce true to type before buying.
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Ampersand
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Posted 1390570326
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I've seen this sort of thing before, my personal favorite is black rose seeds. Maybe you'll wind up with something amazing, but really it's just deceitful on the part of the sellers.
bullet08
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Posted 1390570600
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sucker born every min? some people will buy anything as long as price is right.. even if they don't need it.
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GRamaley
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Posted 1390573774
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Jon really needs to put a like or agree button on here...I agree with you Pete...it's like the people bidding on the Dwarf Black Violet Maderia fig cuttings... they have seen others pay crazy amounts for a BM so it must be good and don't do any real research..
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milehighgirl
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Posted 1390592047
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I just asked the same question. Here's the thread:http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/chicago-hardy-fig-fruit-tree-seeds-6664516
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