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Hi!
This plant was labeled as Douqueira Negra, that is a synonim of Noire de Caromb, but doesn't seem a NdC.
It's a young plant, with bush habit, seem to be a late variety, since only some fruits are ripened, and there are many unripe. Fruits are very small.
The fruit stem is short, the skin has some ribs and it's dark wine colored.
The pulp is pinkish and fruits are sweet and good even if picked not perfectly ripe.
Leaves are mostly 5 lobed, some 3 and some not lobed.



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I like what I'm seeing.

Looks very nice!

Hi,
Lucky you. My NDC planted last year (bought from a nursery) has not shown a single figlet ...

This was a tiny plant, this year has grown so much, but is noth higher than 40 centimeters, has many ramifications, and i prefer bushy fig trees because are easier to care than those with tree habit, so when a plant branch soon and become multistem i don't prune, free to grow as the plant wants.

This is obviously not Noire de Caromb, but in this case i'm happy for the mistake because this is a really delicious variety, though very small.

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Hi all!
After a year i still need to identificate this fig.

A fig expert told me that this plant is a Black Madeira.

He told me that all the characteristics correspond to that variety (leaf pattern, fruits, ripening time), i watched all the pictures of this variety available on the internet and my tree look very like BM.

I can't say much about the flavor, last year the fruits were delicious and sweet like sugar.
Today i harvested the only ripe fruit and it wasn't very sweet but it had a particular taste, like a mix of other fruits.

What do you think? I need opinions from people that have this or Preto, Violeta, Craven's Craving, Bass's Favorite and so on.

Thanks!

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New growth in spring.

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Originally Posted by Fico
Hi all! After a year i still need to identificate this fig. A fig expert told me that this plant is a Black Madeira. He told me that all the characteristics correspond to that variety (leaf pattern, fruits, ripening time), i watched all the pictures of this variety available on the internet and my tree look very like BM. I can't say much about the flavor, last year the fruits were delicious and sweet like sugar. Today i harvested the only ripe fruit and it wasn't very sweet but it had a particular taste, like a mix of other fruits. What do you think? I need opinions from people that have this or Preto, Violeta, Craven's Craving, Bass's Favorite and so on. Thanks!


Hello Claudio!
Congratulations for your nice,  sweet black  fig.. Is it a native of your grounds or you got it on eBay ? - be careful!
may be a gift from a friend.!  To help on your comparisons here some views of that Violeta  fig , IMHO, .. the outright ancestor of the whole family..

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Hope this may be of help.
Francisco


Thank you Francisco,

you are always helpful!

The story of that tree is this: i exchanged some cuttings with a french collector, and he gave me some bareroot saplings.
I tried to send him emails but i haven't received a reply.
The gentlemen that gave me this plant has a nursery, with hundred of varieties, including BM.
This was a mislabeled tree, i realized that after the first fruits, and there is also another mislabeled tree, a "Bourjassotte noire" that turned out to be a white fig (i have no luck with labels and fig trees, both from nurseries and trades!).

I talked about this unknown with another french man, that has a Black Madeira tree, and he said that my tree looks exactly the same as his tree, but he mainly refers to the leaves.
I did not think of this variety at all since i know is very rare.

Looking your fruits they seem to be large, more or less flattened and with a sort of neck, while those of my tree are quite different.
The color and the ribs on the surface are similar, but the pulp is not that red (maybe i have to waits some days before harvest).

I have to add that my plant has not seen a drop of rain since many months, and was watered only three times during the summer, and the shape and size of the fruits can depends on it.

I will take more pictures, i'm sorry for the quality, but i have just a low-end phone and poor intrernet line, so upload photos it's an enterprise.

Thanks again Francisco, what do you think?
Do you see any similarities between Violeta and my unknown?

Well Claudio you may be right but
to be absolutely sure I shall arrange by year end,  a stick or two for you to root or graft on a good stock of yours and then
do a complete analysis, tasting  and comparison.
BTW .. hope there are no problems as our Ag Authorities are in full alert now fearing the arrival  of 'Xylella fastidiosa' following reports of a few worrying signs on almonds.. So far Portugal has been spared of this contamination and some restrictions will probably be put in place soon.

cheers
Francisco

Hi,
Since you mention bourjassotte noire ... It was said that bn resembles Black madeira to some extend.
I would try and compare your tree to the bourjassotte noire of your source of the trees.

Thank you Francisco, it would be nice!

Regarding Xylella, your authorities are right to be on the alert, must be done everithing to prevent it.
In Italy the outbreak of infection is limited to the Salento zone in the region Puglia (the "heel of the boot"), and the spread of the infection is prevented by restrictive measures.

Jdsfrance, thanks.

I have seen many pictures of Bourjassotte noire (also those of the nursery) , in fact i suspected my plant was this, but it's different.
I have some small B. noire from France and are totally different, see pictures

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Leaves: mostly unlobed, some 3 lobed



The whole plant



These fruits have a "neck"


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