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If you had one

special rare cutting, and had only one shot at
rooting it, which rooting process of the many we talk about
would you use and why?

I would score between the bottem nodes and treat with dip n grow. then i would put it right in a 9 inch deep pot full of good potting mix/perlite. and pop a soda bottle on top.

why I have never had luck with the baggie method, and this way has worked very well for me with almost 90%

Damp spaghnum moss in sealed bin ...no mold no rot (99% of the time) you just set it and forget it I have had great success this way and its easy and you can stack all the bins if there the same

Root in spaghnum moss and placed in plastic container with no other cuttings. I would place this in my rooting chamber(aquarium) with a heat mat. Container with rare cutting would sit at least 2 to 3 inches above heat mat. I cover the chamber with a black garbage bag and leave an air gap of about 2 inches across the top of my chamber(aquarium).

Works well for me.

Isn't it amazing three answers and none are even
close to the same

Me and paully are almost the same I just dont use a heat mat cause I put in my boiler room and I dont cover with black bag cause theres no light in that room or windows

I have cuttings going using six different methods
now and at this point I would use a 32 oz deli cup
using Hormex, 60 percent large perlite, 40 percent
Promix with another 32 oz cup on top placed under
T8 32 watt tubes

I guess if it works for you go for it I just like having the room stacking them and being able to do it like a production line there basically shoe boxes stacked its nice and neat and ive had great success. And to boot the moss is reusable over and over again.

Tony, I do have some rooting that way too

I wish you luck any way you do it but I love the moss its like a little present you unwrap and look at the roots 

I don't use Dip N Grow any longer as it has too much alcohol in it which damages cell walls.  I bought some 90% pure GA3 (available on eBay) and mixed it to 2500 ppm and that has worked well for me so far (and is much less expensive than buying pre-mixed products).

Most figs have been about the easiest thing I've rooted but a couple of varieties have alluded me so I'm reluctant to suggest my method to anyone with a rare cutting.  To be honest, probably graft it instead of root it.  That is what I plan to do the next time I try Black Madeira since an airlayer acquired from another member was a weak grower and died on me.  If you've got a stick with two buds on it you can graft half of it and save the other for another attempt if the first fails but that would only be good enough for one rooting.

I use Ga3 for getting my sprout rate up on miracle fruit seeds. i have read its a root retardent so i have never used it that way.

My mistake, I use 90% GA3 for setting fruit on a citrus and sprouting some difficult pomegranate seeds bu 99% IBA for rooting.

It looks like GA3 does sometimes increase rooting, according to some papers.

I've had great luck with dip n grow but you do have to dilute it.

I roll my cuttings separately in slightly damp, NOT soggy wet newspaper, about 3-4 layers thick and place in a ziplock bag until I see small roots forming. I keep the bag in a drawer or cabinet and I make sure to open the bag every few days, unwrap the cuttings, then rewrap using the same paper. Once I see roots forming, I then pot them up with Fertilome Ultimate Potting Soil and place them in indirect sunlight. This is what works for me. I have never had to use rooting hormone. A lot of people have had success using moss but I never had good luck with it myself.  

@TONY -- I used to keep my cuttings in an apartment boiler room. I got tired of going there to check and air the container(s) every 3 to 4 days. I got 2 aquariums that I pick up when tenants left them behind. It comes to excellent use when I root summer cuttings under partial shade outside the house.

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My mistake, I use 90% GA3 for setting fruit on a citrus and sprouting some difficult pomegranate seeds bu 99% IBA for rooting.

It looks like GA3 does sometimes increase rooting, according to some papers.


99% iba??

I use a couple different rooting hormones for other plants.. both powder and liquid.. and they are either 0.4% or 0.8% iba

Tyler

Paully I own the house and the boiler room so its a little easier for me .

Paully I got a couple of old 10 gal fish tanks in the shed. how exactly do you use fish tanks for cutting. you have peaked my intrest.

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Originally Posted by HarveyC
My mistake, I use 90% GA3 for setting fruit on a citrus and sprouting some difficult pomegranate seeds bu 99% IBA for rooting.

It looks like GA3 does sometimes increase rooting, according to some papers.


99% iba??

I use a couple different rooting hormones for other plants.. both powder and liquid.. and they are either 0.4% or 0.8% iba

Tyler


You pay a lot more per gram of active ingredient by buying a pre-mixed product.  I have generally mixed it to arrive at 2500ppm or .25% but as high as .9% for a difficult pomegranate variety.

Dave you can use them like a mini green house turn them upside down to hold in moisture

old baggie, then into peat pot method. keep it at 80-85 degree. 

Every cutting in my wishlist that I receive only ONE cutting is treated as a rare cutting. I am willing to take risk with clean just-moist paper in airtight plastic bag at room temperature and checking frequently (one in two days/or daily if paper gets more moist or temperature is high) to avoid mold. I do not use high temperature for a rare cutting but give it enough time at room temperature around 72F~74F because high temperature accelerates both mold and rooting. Once I see some roots about 1/4" to 1/2", I transfer to a 32oz deli container with moist ProMax soil.

I have also used SumiSoil for rare cuttings successfully. SumuSoil helps avoid mold and there is no risk of over watering if the pot has good drainage holes and can be watered frequently without harm. SumiSoil is available from a number of sources including Lee Valley. Sumisoil basically consists of tiny charcoal balls coated with ceramic and was first introduced in Japan.
The ceramic coated charcoal beads sometimes get stuck to the roots and I leave them on the roots when potting the rooted cutting to avoid losing the roots.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=59368&cat=2,47236

Spagnum peat moss. It might take months but it beats mold. Believe it or not, sometimes even the best soil mixture will rot the cutting. I know. I had a chance with Madeira in May (a generous member) gave me one and I killed her. So lesson learned. If I had a chance at that one special variety. Here is my analogy: between a rabbit or a turtle to win a race, I would go for the turtle "slow and steady" a method that should be used to rooting a precious variety, especially when you only have one shot

-jennifer

  • Rob

To me the best method is the one that has the least chance of disturbing young fragile roots. 

DO:
1. Use a 1 gallon pot filled with fafard potting mix.  EDIT:  I would actually use a mix of 50% fafard potting mix, 50% coarse perlite. 
2. Moisten the mix but leave it for a couple days so it's not too saturated before putting the cutting in.  Getting the right level of moisture is key here.
3.  I would make absolutely sure I put the cutting rightside up :). 
4. Insert cutting so that one or two nodes stuck out the top of the pot, with the rest under the soil.  If it has more than 4 nodes and is more than 10 inches long, I would consider cutting in two.
5. Put a plastic food storage bag over the top to act like a mini greenhouse.  I would keep it at about 75 degrees, i.e. a furnace room or something like that.  I would check on it once or twice a week to make sure moisture level is good, and to air it out. 
6. Once leaves start to show, put it under a light.  Try to keep the baggie over it until roots are observed coming out the bottom of the pot. 
7.  Transplant to a 2+ gallon pot after it's evident there is a very strong root system.  This usually takes about 60 days for me, but results vary significantly

DONT:
1. Use Miracle grow organic potting mix.  I am convinced this leads to fungus gnats, which will severely compromise your cuttings chances of survival. 
2. Pull the cutting out of its mix to examine how it's doing.  This will damage roots.  In fact, don't touch the cutting itself for at least a couple months. 
3.  Overwater. 
4.  Worry if leaves fall off.  Frequently the leaves will develop before there are enough roots to support them.  The plastic bag and humidity will help this by reducing the rate of moisture loss by the leaves, but it won't entirely eliminate it.

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