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Improved Celeste

I recently tasted my first Improved Celeste (O’Rourke) fruit and 
was impressed...


EDIT 9/20/08: MY IMPROVED CELESTE IS NOT AN O'ROURKE!
THE LEAVES DO NOT MATCH THE DESCRIPTION.
(added leaf picture, also see post #6)



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How different is it from regular Celeste? LU improved it by crossing it with a capri fig as I understand, but what changed? is the flavor any different?

My taste buds are no longer that good! All I can say it tasted pretty good , for example
better than the Golden Celeste (Champagne - see pic).
Of course all figs are moody, and one should never count on any one single opinion.
Also, can anybody show a pic of  the Giant Celeste (Tiger), mine is still on order.
All these 3 figs came from LSU and were recently officially released/re-named.
(added leaf picture 9/20/08).

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Actually, I think that I no longer have a 'standard' Celeste fruit to compare it with.
I had a 15+++ year old (Tiny) Celeste;  I dubbed the 'Tiny' part, because up to
this day the fruit remains the tiniest produced fig on my property.  Two years
ago, I needed to destroy the (in-ground) mother plant after saving tons of cuttings.
I do recall that the fruit was very sweet (typical of any Celeste), but my new cutting
has not produced fruit yet; so it has been quite a while since I tasted any
standard Celeste fig.

Thanks,
on my shopping list I have Tiger (giant celeste), and O'Rourke (Improved Celeste). I got the Golden Celeste.
I spoke to mr. robin and mentioned that LSU Everbearing splits very badly when it rains.

MY IMPROVED CELESTE IS NOT AN O'ROURKE!
THE LEAVES DO NOT MATCH THE DESCRIPTION.
I just emailed my source for a possible
explanation and/or id of my IC.

George,
good catch, after reviewing the photos, your improved celeste might be a Giant Celeste. At least the leaves on your tree closely resemble the giant celeste (tiger).
Who's your Source?

My source is (SSE - GA IN C 06);  Improved Celeste (described as:
another newer fig, from friend, from Louisiana).

I was alerted by a good fig-poster via private email (thanks!) to check the leaves,
because of own similar IC mishap occurring from yet another source (LA).

Is the UCD Golden Celeste the same as the LSU one that was renamed Champagne?

>>> Is the UCD Golden Celeste the same as the LSU one that was renamed Champagne?

No , see:
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/figs4funforum/vpost?id=2894998&highlight=golden

The "Not" improved Celeste does look like the "Mega Celeste".

I did not think so, I do have a Mega Celeste next to it that produced some earlier
fruit and they looked different to me.

I guess that my Improved Celeste fruit in post #1 was not really the first.
I just discovered a picture taken ~1 week earlier.

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So, if my Improved Celeste is an O'Rourke_NOT; does anybody know of
any source that carries the true O'Rourke fig (with Brunswick like leaves).
Is it possible that my 2006 IC is not fully mature yet?

I now think that I get it!

There are 2 distinct fig cultivars that are different.
(a) Improved Celeste (has been circulating for a while)
and
(b) O'Rourke (the new LSU release).

Prof E.N. O'Rourke (the person) bred many figs at LSU, one of them was recently named after him.

I, like some other fig people, was under the WRONG impression that IC = O'R.
There is nothing in the LSU document that relates the two figs.

And therefore, my IC is just that (an IC).

Note the distinctive leaf shape of the real "Rourke" fig shown in the LSU document (post #6).
 

With the help of a good fig-friend, I am currently rooting some

(genuine) O'Rourke fig twigs. Hoping that at least one of them will make it.
Yes, they came very recently  direct from LSU....
Looking forward to see how the fruit compares with my Improved Celeste.
Pl. do not misunderstand me; I do love the IC I have; it is a keeper....

I already know they are both "excellent" tasting siblng figs and both are worth having in a fig collection. The many gaps in this particular tread came about when I deleted all of my former postings on this fig forum.

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

Spread them around Gorgi...........I DID

Cecil, there was a time when LSU had full intentions of selling exclusive licensing rights to the O'Rourke, Champagne, and their Tiger fig....and "spreading them around" would have been frowned upon by anyone purchasing those rights. ALL of those who had been sent bid offers (I saw and read one that was sent to a retail nursery) from LSU, chose not to buy those exclusive retailing rights because they did not see any way to make any money out of it. And they assumed these particular figs were already out in circulation. Assumpitons made by LSU and assumptions made by local retail nurseries are at the core of the LSU fig confusion that we now see today. There is more to this story that I will not put on the internet........

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

Dan,


When I asked for those cuttings from LSU (you know who I'm talking about)

I told him I fully intended to "spread them around" nothing was said about me not doing that..........So I kept my word and am damn proud of it~!

No problem Cecil.....remember I am responding to this particular thread that was written in 2009 and all of my original posts to this tread are no longer there as I've stated. And I believe that you know why they are no longer there. When you received those cuttings it was AFTER the bidding process was over. I remember when you got them. There was a lot of stuff going on before you obtained those cuttings and during the time of this thread..........and a lot of clarifications that have been made since then.  Some other relevant stuff that I know about the confusion that exists, just cannot be put on the Internet.......

Dan
Semper Fi-cus

Hi Cecil,

You know I sure will. Actually, I already gave a twig to a fig-friend,
who I am sure, will later distribute it further...

Hi gorgi,


Your past history tells me you will share them, that's good!

@ Gorgi  -- I am at my brother's place(Malaysia) and has 2 LSU Tiger figs in ripening state. It's a coloured fig. I will email picture to you as I do not know how to post here.


I just went out and checked my little O'Rourke IC


It has at least 2 main cropper figs on it now!  Maybe more to come!

This was planted in March this Yr. in ground.(rooted in 010)

I will post pix when and if they ripen.

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