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Here is my Harvest for Today.
I placed this here because they are grown absolutelly Organic,without to water,ever,except when planted once.
And without any Miracol grow,or other fertiliser.
The largest is1.5 pound,havy.
Nothing,but only ,old,wise, growing methods,and very rare productive hairloom cultivars.
I might add that i use the same spot,for growing them since 1993.
I hope fig only, lover will not protest,for one different post.
I wanted to show that it is posible,without fertiliser.
And so is possible to grow nice figs organically.
Enjoy

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Yeah Herman,

And it sure as heck don't hurt having TWO REAL GREEN THUMBS
like you just happen to be blessed with , I could only wish for that!
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Sorry Cecil :I overestimated the weight.
I found my wife scale,and the largest one weigh in,720 grams only,wich makes it to be 1.5 pound.
It is still a nice weight.
I never had a 2 pound Tomato yet,but I know they exist.
So with the corection on ,I will live the original post the way it is.
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Dorcas (the wife) loves tomatoes, I love green fried tomatoes!

Yum Yum........good stuff.
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Herman you got me going now i just had to post also here.Here is a link for you to look at

Heirloom Tomato Seeds - Over 100 Varieties of Heirloom Tomatoes

they are non hybred seeds, check out the one called "Brandywine" an amish type from 1885 they are supposed to be only ones that have this.
I would like to order from them maybe next growing season.
I also grow veggies without fertilizer or weed killer stuff, each year in fall i run the tiller thru the spent crops to chop and bury em as you know it naturally fertilizes soil as the bugs do there thing and it all enriches the soil.
I do water though .
This year i could not get in garden as it stood to wet with all the rain so i decided not to grow, i should have planted a fall crop.
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Herman, You didn't mention what variety of fig they were, and whether they were breba or main crop.
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HAHAHA

There is that wonderful sense of Humor......gotta LOve it.
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Jon:What can I say,It fill bad .npt to have any ripe figs at this Time of year but,our June was March,like,so That is Why.
It is allwayes a struggle,to get ripe figs ,here.,
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Herman,

I feel your pain, we had a pitiful fig year here too.

We both will have hundreds of figs next year (thinking positive)
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I Know Cecil in your place it was the drought,and excesive heat,and here it was the very cool June.
I still have hopes that my trees will start having ripe fruits soon.
They are maximum loaded with fruit(Hundreds on each).
I will post a picture when they do.
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My space for veges is shrinking with increase in the number of fig plants. Before I started figs, my neighbours used to say "Not again" when they used to see me at their front door with cucumbers and tomatoes for them (… just kidding, they always appreciated it).

Today I had six or seven cucumbers and some ten ripe tomatoes but they were gone when my daughter and daughter-in-law visited us and took some. I have ten tomato plants and all have lost leaves because of rain that caused some leaf disease. I said that is fine since the fruit are large enough and are now ripening in numbers without leaves.

I had planted what is called ‘mortgage lifters’ for its size but because of the rains the size could hardly be called ‘mortgage sustainer’. But here is always next year (hopefully).
Edit: Added Aug 19th crop from 5 plants of "Big Beef" which are smaller than the Mortgae lifters. The heat wave of the week caused them to ripen in bundles.

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Herman, so, what are you saying? Those aren't some rare, red Sicilian fig?
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No Jon They are tomatoes,but they are fruits too,and so they are the only fruits I can show off at this time.
New Jersey People are very proud of the so called Jersey Tom.
They say that the soil here ,makes them better tasting.
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I know this is an old thread but being new to figs I'm trying to catch up a little by reading alot of the old threads. Most of you seem to have quite a knowledge of so many of the fig varieties. 

I just had to post to this one because I've had a passion for heirloom tomatoes for years now. I have seeds from about 35 varieties & many of them are just awesome! Heirloom tomato seeds for fig tree cuttings anyone? 

Photo #1 an old Ky variety that had a really great flavor this past seaon. Photo #2 Is my current favorite orange variety. Very uniform fruits that rarely crack and the flavor is awesome:
Photo #3 Is of a cherry type called Black Cherry and is one of the sweetest and most delicious tasting tomatoes I've ever tasted:

Hopefully someone will see this post and enjoy the pics :).

Ah well, it looks like the pics came up in a different order than I expected. #1 is in the middle #2 is on the right & #3 is on the left. Guess I need some more pratice with posting pics with captions. 

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well, you're not the only one!!

i am a big heirloom tomato fan myself.  i don't have any uncommon seeds though, mostly stuff i've gotten from SSE this past couple years.  i also planted some not-normal peppers like padron and pequillo this year for the first time, along with various bells.  we love to cook, so it's all welcome.

i figure i'll pop some pictures on here as well.

1st picture is the raised bed i built for my tomatoes.  before '09 season started.

2nd and 3rd pic are my black krims

4th is my first BT fig of the year.

5th and 6th pics are my lemon cucumbers and the mexican bean beatles that did them in after they attacked my haricot verts.

7th is one of the harvests of several different varieties. 

8th pic is one of my hillbilly potato leaf, which didn't fruit worth a damn this year.

9th pic is my pequillo peppers

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Very nice pictures.
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Here are a few more of my tomato photos just for kicks.

I'll slip one of this odd shaped fig leaf in just so Jon doesn't ask us to take our 'maters' to the GW :-).

Has anyone ever seen a fig leaf that looks like this? The fruit are unripe but are supposed to ripen yellow occording to the gentleman I got them from.

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Jason,
I meant to compliment your pictures in my last post. Great stuff! How did you like the Black Krim? I nearly tried that one this year myself but I had too many varieties going already.

I just love growing stuff & then get to enjoy the fruits of our labor.
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it was probably one of the tastiest out of all of them.  i will probably only plant that, hillbilly potato leaf and a cherry variety next year.  i went with too many varieties this year.

if you want some black krim seeds, let me know, i have several.  won't cost more than $0.40 to ship within the USA.
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I will Trade Fig cuttings for Orange tomato only(the one you prefer)!
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sattelitehead,

Yeah, I grew waaay too many this year also. I went a little crazy because there were just so many that I wanted to trial. I planted more than 200 tomato plants! ALOT of work to maintain them all so some suffered while I focused on the ones I liked the most.

I can see already that my veggie garden will be MUCH smaller next year because I will be giving more of my time to caring for fig trees :-). I'm looking forward to it.

I'll PM you about the mater seeds. Maybe we can do some tradin'.
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PM replied, Bill.  Will likely get those out tomorrow.

I had almost 100% germination rates this year, so I was handing out free heirloom tomatoe seedlings to people in my surrounding neighborhoods.  I also handed out a bunch of heirloom peppers, mostly chocolate bell (very productive!), quadrato asti giallo, bullnose, alma paprika, along with some other assorted bells.

Herman, which tomato do you desire?  I am not certain if you are talking to me or Bill (or both).  I am happy to send you seeds also, and no fig cuttings are required in trade.  Although, with all this talk of BMVS, I am intruiged ;)

I will post some more pics of harvested peppers and toms in a bit, if it is OK and not too far off-topic.
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Hi Folks, if you google Tomato Growers Supply, you can get a free catalog or order online. They have any kind of tomato you can think of and many you won't. Great selections of Regular and Heirloom varieties. I grew their Heirloom Brandywine(Potato Leafed Variety) last year. Makes huge 2# plus pinkish/red tomatoes that are just delicious. They don't make lots of fruit at once and continue into hot weather. I sold 400+ pounds of fresh tomatoes off the end of my driveway last June and this was  everyones favorite, including mine. Plus I canned probably 75 quarts and ate all the fresh tomatoes I wanted. I'm growing more this next year.
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How many tomato plants yielded 400lbs + of tomatoes?
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For the larger 1#-2# tomatoes like Bl Krim, Nyagous and Hillbilly, I usually get approximately a dozen per plant per year, sometimes more, sometimes less.  It all depends on the weather.  So, between 4 plants it is possible for me to net upwards of 75#-100#.  I reckon if someone really got down into it, composted to hell, and had no nematodes in the soil, you could probably get 400# haul from 10-15 plants pretty easy.
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Ok here are the last pictures I have, except for my reliance and himrod grapes ;)

First is my Chocolate Bell peppers, one or two starting to ripe.  Heirloom variety, sweet and almost rich, very much like milk chocolate to me.  Wonderful in salads!  I grew them in pots and each plant produced approximately one dozen peppers (average).  Picture of the fully ripe pepper @ pic #5.

Next is the "normal" hillbilly potato leaf tomato, grown by a friend in Brooklyn with same seeds I have.  Mine (a couple posts up) is very abnormal shape, I think due to our hot summer.

Next is one of many branches from our two nanking cherry bushes.  They produced over 500 cherries this year with little of no effort.  They are very good frozen, for hot summer "bright and tart" treats.

4th picture is my '08/'09 SSE order of mostly tomatoes and peppers.  If anyone is interested in any of the seeds, let me know.  They are much cheaper to ship, and I hardly put a dent in some.  The Riesentraub and Cherry Roma were very heavy producers, releasing a dozen or more tomatoes per week at peak season, and did this for almost 10-12 weeks, sometimes 2 dozen tomatoes a week.  Nyagous is similar to Blk Krim, slighly smaller, wonderful taste IMO.

next picture is some of the final peppers, chocolate, bullnose (red), quadrato asti giallo (yellow) and a white bell obtained from a friend (watery, did not save seeds).

finally, one of my three seed flats for the year.  SSE has great quality seeds, and as you see, placing 2-3 seeds per hole, i had amazing germination rates, to the point that i was giving away seedlings for several weeks.

I guess this is the best time to say, if anyone wants to trade seeds for cuttings, I am sure myself and Bill (saxonfig) would be welcome to this idea. 

My veggies have been a part of my life for a while, to the point that I guess I didn't think anyone would ever want to trade something as simple as pepper seeds or tomato seeds for some fig cuttings.

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Because of my ever increasing fig list and required space,
I stopped growing tomatoes, except maybe 2-4 plants.

For those wanting a real "Jersey Tomato", aka
the "Ramapo" (hybrid), it is baaack; see (rutgers unv):
http://www.njfarmfresh.rutgers.edu/JerseyTomato.html

For another amazing tomato-seed galore collecton,
see (totally tomato):
http://www.totallytomato.com/
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Funny you should mention Totally Tomatoes gorgi.
I just received their print catalog in the mail today.
Looks like it'll be spending some time with me in the "readin' room".
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Hi Jackster, I had about 70 plants in the ground, but I planted them too close together, so the yield was good, but could have been better. I've been steadily adding composted leaves & grass clippings to build the soil up. If I find the time & energy, I'll try again next spring a little further apart.
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cold just be a GA clay thing, but my tomatoes grow better when i go to the local chain coffee shop and get a few plastic bins full of grounds every other week and toss on, superficially work em into the ground.  they're always happy to get rid of them.  mix the grounds with some leaves you ran through the lawn mower and you got prime additive.
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I get very large yields from my earthboxes.  I thought that they were exaggerating the yield until I actually tried them.  This year I have part planted in the earthboxes and half in compost.  The compost bags, so far, have an equal yield to the earthboxes.  I take a 40lb bag of compost, post holes in the bottom and plant 2 plants in each bag and then use miracle grow on them.   

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I've been using bone meal for a few years and I'm really happy with the results. I can't really tell how well it fertilizes the plants, but I haven't had any problems with blossom end rot since I started using it.

This summer was a tough one for tomatoes where I live. The season started late, the weather was cool and rainy, and the late blight was everywhere. But thanks to copper soap and some aggressive trimming, I still got a decent sized crop of not especially sweet tomatoes.

The first picture is a Oaxacan Jewel from Tomato Growers Supply Company. The second one is a Giant Belgium spinoff I've been planting for a few years. It still has the size, shape, and flavor of a Giant Belgium, but the flesh and skin are a mixture of yellow and pinkinsh orange. Sadly, a slug about the size of my thumb got to the one in the picture before I did.

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Got some more goodies in today, some repeats, a couple new ones for this coming spring.

Bill, I'll get some of these out to you today.

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Thanks Jason. Yours went out today! 
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I think I may have told you this already, but I got them!  You are incredibly generous, I appreciate all of the extra seeds above and beyond what you promised!  I am going to take many of the other varieties you've sent and plant them in our community garden for everyone in the neighborhood to enjoy.  My space is limited at home, and there are so many seeds I don't know what to do with them!
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