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Introducing East Martin Luther King

This is an unknown I collected in Austin, TX, near F.M. Franklin Dr. and E. MLK, very close to Morris Williams Golf Course.  E.MLK sounded better than F.M. Franklin in my opinion.

This is an outstanding, tasty variety; not overly sweet, kinda plummy with a honeydew/ melon finish, some seed crunch.  We couldn't stop eating them!  Admittedly I haven't tried many different figs, but this one is the best yet.

The bush was growing on the North side of my friends house and still produced a decent amount of figs.  I'd estimate it at 15' x 12' in size.  All leaf shapes, from single to 7 lobbed, but mostly 5 and 7 lobbed in places that got the most sun.  

I only saw one breba earlier. The main crop started ripening late July.  These were picked August 16th.

The last 2 photos are of the cuttings now I took in February.  Earlier leaves were mostly 3 lobbed but as time goes on they develop more "fingers".

Looks a lot like JH Adriatic form my searches here.  I haven't tasted JH to compare.  What do you think?
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Your fig was sold by Paradise Nursery, as Battaglia green, till about 6 years ago.
It is not Adriatic JH,for sure.

Well that is one delicious fig! 

 The house was built in the 30's-40's, I have no way of absolutely knowing how old the tree is, but it has a dead trunk in the center that is at least 8" in diameter from which all the suckers radiate out in a circle.  It looks like it has been there awhile.

Just out of curiosity, what makes you certain it's a Battaglia green?  What is the difference between the two I guess maybe would be a better question?

Thanks in advance!

So this is some variety of verte?? Is Ischia Green and Battaglia Green the same?? Or close?

The leaves ,are different than JH Adriatic,the exterior is green instead of yellow,and the interior is one notch darker than JH Adriatic.

Looks just like the BG I have. It is my favorite fig so far as well. New name doesn't seem necessary.

Whatever it is it looks like a winner.

I agree a new name is redundant.  I gave it that name because I couldn't be absolutely sure what it is, as an unknown I thought it was common to give tree name of location, and/ or person obtained from.

I poured over the search for JH Adriatic, because at the time I thought it most resembled it, not to mention JH himself said there were probably others sold by the local nursery his had originated from, I mean this tree IS in Austin after all.

I will now pour over every post about BG.  Next year I hope to have figs from both for definitive (hopefully) analysis.  
I am assuming those that have both can tell them apart by taste?  

BTW very few of these figs received more than a few hours sun, the ones that got the most sun were more yellow than those in the shade.

 

Thanks!  I'm not sure of it's cold hardiness, we have seen 10 degrees a few times in recent memory, but we see 105 often in the Austin area, and not a dry heat, a miserable feels much hotter humid heat.

I'm still looking...but either JHA or BG this fig is a winner for me.  

I have been real lucky with figs, and I have never fallen in love with a plant as much as I have figs, I truly feel blessed to have found a plant so noble and so hardy, so worthy of my affections.  I feel compelled to drive by old homesteads and ask people about their figs, and that coming from an introvert.

Thats a great find Don! Wish the tree wasn't in a private yard, lol. If you ever have any extra cuttings I would be interested, since its a closed variety and obviously does well in our area. Congrats!

Jenn,

You bet!  I should have a few cuttings this fall from my little ones.  Compared to other varieties I received it rooted quickly.

And the best thing is you know it will do well here because it comes from Austin.  

Awesome Don! I'm looking forward to it! Thanks!

Congrats Don, whatever you have, one thing for sure, it is a keeper and of good quality.

I agree with herman Battaglia Green but the plant in pic 5 don't look the same as the mother plant you got a pic of or Battaglia Green did you possibly lose the tag or not tag it to begin with? the plant to the left on pic 5 looks more like BG and your mother plant then the one in the center. 

The one "good" picture, from the mother tree, pic 4, shows quite a few single lobbed leaves in the shade.  Even on the mother there were many single lobbed leaves with equal number of 3 lobbed, but the predominate leaves were 5 lobbed, followed by a few 7 lobbed on new growth in the areas that received the most sun, which couldn't be more than a few hours a day.  But this is Central Texas sun!

I can't reiterate how much leaf variation this tree demonstrates.

Sorry, my picture of mother is so bad, I was excited to finally taste these after growing them, and I was helping my friend move, all my pictures ended up blurry when enlarged.  

I just obtained JH from ebay (paid more than I said I would) so I can compare next year.  

I don't care one way or another, but I need to know what to label the cuttings for trades, that is why I gave it a new unknown name.  Can one taste the difference?

Edible,

I took the cuttings in February myself from the mother shown, I took 12, 10 rooted.  The 2 that past on, I didn't keep moist enough, they dried out, I was so worried about rot that I went the other way.  I had zero experience with fig cuttings at that point.

They are larger than my other cuttings received later in the year, and are set apart from them, grouped together with name "Unknown A" written on the pots.  I don't have that many figs, and I don't move them around.   I'm certain they are the same.

I agree they don't look the same, BTW they are all from one branch of mother tree.


FYI:I have both cultivars <Battaglia Green,and JH Adriatic,and ,they are both mature over 5 years old.
So I compared them one against the other.
Adriatic JH has predominant leaves as three lobes,while Battaglia ,5 lobes.
You have Battaglia.

I support the ID of Battaglia Green.  (I have that one, and it looks like yours in all the ways I can see).  

Also someone (waynea) asked if Battaglia Green is the same as Ischia Green.  My opinion is that they're at least very similar, and possibly the same.  

Mike   central NY state, zone 5a

P.S.  How about North Harry Belafonte?  Or West Mother Teresa?  (just riffing from the confusion I felt upon seeing the title, and not really remembering all that many of the street names in Austin TX).  Or maybe South John Fitzgerald Kennedy?   Regardless of the name, this is a good fig, and I hope you enjoy it!

or East Austin All Good....

When I search for either BG or JHA I still don't see a definite consensus, I have read hundreds of posts, even one about Gota de Mel, that shows a plant that looks like it.   http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/gota-de-mel-6536962?highlight=pingo&trail=50

Even JH himself says it can have 5 and 7 fingers, he also lives in Austin, where this tree is located, so growing conditions would be extremely similar.  http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/difference-bt-adriatic-jh-and-adriatic-5880337?highlight=jh+adriatic&trail=50

I'm not saying it is JHA, what I'm saying is how can anyone be so certain, when even the forum can't agree.  And to make matters worse, Battaglia Green was given it's name by the grower/producer at Paradise Nursery.  Does anyone know when Paradise Nursery started selling BG?

I can't in good conscience label it anything but Unknown at this point.




I bought MLK cuttings and a gallon tree/rooted cutting last winter.  I just re-potted the tree -- two 30" branches and roots up to 18".  This growth is beyond anything I have had with JHA or Battaglia Green.

I agree with Don, if you are not one hundred percent positive this tree is BG, then it should be an unknown or what Don nicknamed it.  According to my findings, leaves can differ tree to tree to a certain extent.... If Don says, "well this is a BG" and on down the road it turns out to be just a look a like cultivar, names then really gets confused as times go on.

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Originally Posted by REGGIE
I bought MLK cuttings and a gallon tree/rooted cutting last winter.  I just re-potted the tree -- two 30" branches and roots up to 18".  This growth is beyond anything I have had with JHA or Battaglia Green.


I rooted two BG's this winter, and they are more like 30 inches now. So I don't think this tells us anything.  My guess is Strawberry Verte. since BG is probably SV, and BG is fairly new, this was an old place. So SV has to be considered as a possibility.

I have both in my orchard.
If you would like pictures of both, just ask.

Doug

I certainly agree with Drew that growth rates under two different sets of conditions is relatively uninformative, but growth rates in the same place with the same conditions narrow the variables to one (or close to one) -- the variety and its genetic make-up (which defines it).  So a person can legitimately compare varieties, and hopefully draw a conclusion if environmental variables are held constant.  I have been comparing 300 varieties, and most characteristics are reproducible -- root structure, root growth, age to fruiting, and branch growth among them.  The MLK I have has branch growth, root growth and root structure distinct from the Battaglia Green I have (and who knows if the two I have are really BG?), so I'd just wait a bit for more observations from folks before concluding the two are the same.

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