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Ironic rooting question

In all seriousness, I ask this with a completely straight face having never done this before...is it possible to have too many roots on a cutting?  I've got one cutting that has completely exploded with root growth.  I mean completely filled the cup over the last few weeks in a manner that would make all of you proud.  However, it's only sent out one little stem with a tiny leaf that dried up and fell off before it unfolded, and hasn't done anything since, even though it rooted about a month ago.  If it helps answer the question, it's in orchid mix with a little bit of miracle grow infused perlite, and the roots are growing visibly every day by about half an inch.  The sides of the cup almost have more roots than media when I look at it. 

You're just fine, Brett.  I've had similar cuttings.  They eventually sprout and become very strong trees.

What size cup is it in?

HAHA, now you're just showing off Brett. I have a few cuttings that seem to be stronger in the root dept then the stem dept, and vice-versa. I'm happier with stronger roots, seem healthier. What's in your mix?

Its in a 16 oz plastic cup.  On the small side, but I couldn't find anything larger that was still reasonable in size.  As for mix, its 60% orchid mix, 30% perlite, 10% fine peat moss.  Don't ask me why I chose it, because I really just used what I had around the house that was light and airy.  I was desperate.

Results have been fantastic so far.  For initial roots, they were mostly started in gallon freezer bags with damp, course sphagnum.  Many spent time (and completely rotted their roots off) in perlite before I gave up on that venture and had to re-root the same cuttings in sphagnum a second time.  In short...if anything survives, it deserves to live no thanks to me.

My poor cuttings really have been through a lot.  Many rooted, rotted, grew leaves, dropped them, re-rooted, etc.  I had three in perlite that were beautiful....dozens of roots, several leaves, only to completely die when I watered them a tiny bit.  Amazingly, 2 of them have since rerooted!  Sadly, the ones that took forever to root were the lucky ones, because they had to deal with my mistakes less.  They may be fragile...but they're truly hard to actually kill.

I say put them in direct soil. Did it with 3 cuttings and they are enjoying it. Be careful of too much watering though.

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Originally Posted by Speedmaster
I say put them in direct soil. Did it with 3 cuttings and they are enjoying it. Be careful of too much watering though.


That was what I was thinking.  Put them on a heat mat or no, if you have the set-up to do that.  Maybe in one gallon pots?  Frank and Speedmaster what do you think about that?

Soak them in warm water to minimize root breakage and put them in a 1 gal pot.  Fertilize with 1/2 strength houseplant fertilizer.  Put a small amount of composted cow manure or worm castings on top of the soil.

Brettjm
It is possible that another node may be getting ready for a shoot.

I have a cutting in rooting progress. It rooted and a node some 8" above the soil level started opening up. It greened up, opened partially and then stopped growing and now seem to be dried up. However, with the roots intact, I had high hope for shoot. Now I can see a shoot just appearing from under the soil.

Sometimes the main stem of the cutting may have some hydraulic problem for upward nutrient transport and the shoot on top may start growing because of nutrient stored in the stem and not necessarily coming from the root and so it eventually dries up. The busy roots most often succeed in sending shoot from a lower good node(s).

If it was my cutting I will give it a chance in the current mix ......but it is your choice.

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Originally Posted by Speedmaster
I say put them in direct soil. Did it with 3 cuttings and they are enjoying it. Be careful of too much watering though.


That was what I was thinking.  Put them on a heat mat or no, if you have the set-up to do that.  Maybe in one gallon pots?  Frank and Speedmaster what do you think about that?

I put them in ground because they seem to grow faster than in pots. I don't know why but my inground black madeira cutting is faster than my poted beall cutting, so now I am putting more in ground under partial shade which seems to work magic.

Hi,
Weird !
Did you use some rooting hormone ?
If not, then nothing to worry about . Just one more question : do you have artificial lights on ?
slow or weak growth could be lack of light.
If you're having problems with small cups, just root in bigger container - like a half or one gallon size pot (2 or 4 liters) .
The problem I see is that now you are tempted to relocate that cutting to a bigger pot ... and in my experience, them cuttings take a hit from the transplanting .

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