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Good advice.
We have the beetles in North Carolina and South Carolina.
Alan in NC reported his.
Just last year while walking in orchard I noticed a hole right where I took a cutting
from the year before. The hole has sawdust around it so I knew I had a problem.
I went back to malathion to spray my trees. I spray early spring before leaves bud
and in the fall after harvest.
this year no holes.
Although I really do not like the idea of using chemicals, but when it comes to borrers
I do what is necessary.

Sorry if off topic

Doug

Funny, Olga, question was not about you, but you took it personally.

All I want to know if it is legal to bring/sell/buy cuttings from continent .
I simply do not want to buy something which will include as a bonus visit from Agriculture.
Do not imply any other ideas.

The implications are in the very first post, although edited, still there is an implication that lead to Olya's conclusion that she is being used as an example. The ebay listing is Olya's. The words new trend/scam are sort of personal if her ebay listing is displayed.  Unknowns are really not fancy names. Now I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt of your intention if you just asked....


Is it a new trend/scam to bring cuttings from other country illegally and sell under fancy names?

.....without posting her ebay user name and listing. You would have received replies to your question without all of this drama.

  At this point the USDA has monitored ebay for years and has allowed ebay, the seller, paypal, and in affect the agent, to profit from this set up without warnings added or valid disclaimers.

  They are all complicit  in their actions in the relation to profiting from collusive entrapment. I would contact my attorney and not let them in my house period. I would push that fact to an arrest whereby a significant lawsuit against all parties mentioned are enacted.

  You can go to US ebay right now and the listings show they are from out of the country. It has been this way for years. So if this is "illegal", ebay and paypal are wantonly, repeatedly, knowingly and purposefully, committing and profiting from continued perpetuation of illegal activity subjecting it's users to unreasonable and unwarranted interventions and collusive confiscations for profit.

  If this is "still" happening a class action lawsuit could be prudent

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All I want to know if it is legal to bring/sell/buy cuttings from continent .


So why didn't you ask that simple question instead of implying there was a scam at hand? Easy enough, no?

@Garlic_Mike eBay has been warned about the fig scammers repeatedly ripping off people and has been provided with hard evidence of their activities by senior members of the forums and yet they continue to ignore the info, continue to refuse to take the scammers down and in effect continue to aid and abet the criminal's fraudulent activities... No surprises in anything that eBay does to ensure that their fees continue to come in...

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Wayne, I agree, there's too much drama in pofigist posts, and one cannot help but conclude that it is personal despite him/her denying it.
I don't think that there is enough space over here to list all foreign fig varieties that are being listed on eBay by domestic sellers.
First of all I don't buy anything from overseas any more, especially after getting visited by the AD a couple of years ago, but this is what I believe:
If the USDA has any problems with figs of a foreign origin, then the first thing that they must do is to ban all fig sales on eBay, confiscate everyone's collection in the US and then burn everything.


Yes, I know

I have personally and repeatedly given them extensive and specific information on many of them for several years.

I kept getting Dausername stuff pulled for being misrepresented by pictures, but they do not care, so any AG guy can kiss off with the rest of the made up crap. Any disease related to fig plants already exists in this country and the enforcement point is mute and purposefully irrelevant.

 I gave them, I believe, the 11 different usernames, and paypal information with the same address for Peony77 going back to 2008/9.

 If I get arrested it would be for beating the crap out of the AG guy for BS. Not for the plants.

Radyslava, seargantwardog, ebay. Dead crap from losers. Thanks again ebay!

Spot on, Mike, Spot on! I tried with them as well to no avail... they should be accountable but they are not....

So you saying in Malta this beetle a long time now?
I hear they got in South part of Europe not with ficus carica with ornamental ficus..
But, this is real scare.. And you saying this longhorn beetle already in US???
I was watching links on Internet.. and this is real bad.. One guy born his huge fig tree with tourches and kill them, tree survive..
Interesting if Clorox will kill them? 
I hear in Asia they have some other insect what kill this longhorn beetle..
I was myself very surprise when I saw on papers from USDA about they Ok with China..I think they come from China, so I talk to guy from USDA and told him , they need to change it, because of this beetle..
Fair sound good too..
I was wondering why couple years back In Italy they start collect samples from all varieties..I guess they was know bad things could happen..
I was hoping we don't have them here...
I still can't get over the Malta..

This post has covered a couple of things, one being the importation of invasive species. It seems apparent that some don't realize the economic and environmental damage that can follow an accidental release of an invasive species which can destroy not only commercial crops but also large tracks of forestland. 
In the northeast the asian long beetle (Anoplophor Glabripennis), a species which was first discovered in the US about 20 years ago, has become a persistent problem. The USDA and state agencies have spent over $150 million trying to contain it in Worcester county alone.
The Hemlock wooly adelgid has taken a toll on northern and eastern forest.
The total economic impact of invasive species is the tens of billions annually. Control alone in Calfornia cost several hundred million per year.

Their is a reason why the USDA has these checks in place.

Huge problem as the world shrinks and people have access to the farthest shores... Not nly in the plant kingdom... look at Florida and the issues with the monster snakes/pythons in the Everglades as well as invasive fish species...

The Emerald Ash Borer was discovered in the US near Detroit in 2002, Connecticut 2010.

The Ambrosia or Borer Beatle was discovered in California in 2003.

The Asian Longhorned Beatle was discovered in the US in 1996, NY 2007 and Boston in 2010 and has killed millions of ash trees throughout the Eastern US.

 There is another pest wiping out all the oak trees West of the Rocky Mountain range.

Nobody wants to spread anything around and think most affected wood could be noticed.

Point being A decade late and a dollar short. These circumstances are as likely, if not more than likely, to be spread among US trades than international ones at this point.

Hi, John!
Thank you very much for information!
We do have many people who grow figs in area you are talking about, please, tell how we can protect our gardens?
Like I said before..I'm crazy about my garden, so I today already went and got Malathion, mix it with water and spray all my plants.. just in case..In store on some bottles I saw some kill Japanise beetle, do I need to get those solutions too? And how often we need to spray?
I also got Captain Jacks deadbug, this one also killing borers , beetles, bagworms, caterpillars..
Thank you very much!
Olya.

Missed the Hemlocks

It is probably better to subscribe to "due diligence" and to keep an eye out for these "apex plant predators", and address findings as they occur, as opposed to chemical baths IMO.

Mike, last two years I got lots of figs from North parts of US,and from all over US... nothing from outside... so I'm worry..
I think better to be safe then sorry..
This is was a fight for me here for many years to keep my plants alive, last year I found the way to don't worry no more about nematodes, rust, FMV,  rain, flooding, plus hurricane didn't help.. 
I do know about loonghorn beetles for few years now..Paolo warn about them few years back..
But.. we do have a real problem here, becides them..
And.. even I live in south part.. I'm very worry..This climate too good for any bags..
So I bath today all my figs.. many still have almost ripe figs, but I spray any way..I can wait till next year..

You must be much farther south than I am Olga. My figs have been dormant for two months.

Here only few figs go dormant, or go in different time, right now many start grow again..

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Here only few figs go dormant, or go in different time, right now many start grow again..


Hi Olga ,
Are those pictures in the auction yours? Because I see another auction of the same variety and same pictures from a seller based in Italy. The sellers eBay name is seeds4gardens. On your auction you have same pictures and almost same description . Here is the link.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291944578813

Hi, Vinny, my own still have no figs on..
But , they originally come from the same place..
And another thing..
I don't want to say about this before..But this #1 most likely on the same line like Ponte Tresa.. They are so good..
But, because of auctions in the paste went crazy..
Was just buy it now and not a crazy price..
But I real don't want to keep this just for myself..
This one deserve to be shared...
And I'm happy were they went..
Hope they all will root and this variety will make people happy..
Olya.

Wow… What happened to advice “Ask before you buy on eBay”?

Most of inquiries include name of seller and item in question. Mine was the same.

Now let’s forget about emotions and consider only facts.

  1. Seller of cuttings is Saint with knowledge of problems with fig trees in Italy, and by his/her own statement has a problem with her own trees. Still selling cuttings on eBay. Too much for keeping fig community safe.

  2. Nobody knows rules and laws of import of cuttings to USA.

  3. Some, (I will not say most or all, but some) members want to get new variety known or unknown, at any expense  from other country despite the fact that it can be risks to USA agriculture and possibility of destroying commercial orchards.

And some members prefer to get emotional instead of discussing an issue.

Regarding statement “Who is Pofigist?” It was stated many tines here that some Government authorities monitor this forum for whatever reason.

So it will be “smart” to let them know who you are and what have you done.

 And it always was a beauty of forums that you can use a nickname. And I am not looking for popularity or chance to sell/buy using this forum. And I do not care about fact that many do. After all it is expensive hobby and it is only reasonable to get some $$ to cover this obsession.

OK, "pofigist" or "Peonia" Or how you call yourself now? you did have so many names in the past..
First of all.. USDA know me very well.. We comunicate all the time..
Second I don't have sick plants.. But because I'm getting plants all the time, I want my plants prevent from getting sick..
Now.. you try to sell figs all the time.. with little success.. how I understand..
But, I hear you scaming people with other plants too..not only with figs.. You putting " fancy names" on basic varieties..I guess hoping to get top $???
I just don't understand, why you don't want to try at list one time to be honest..
And beside.. What about Greece? And other countries?
You jumping all over here.. why? Because you try to find the way to start making money?
I told you before.. Most people here grow figs because they love them, and yes, some to grow to make the money..I don't blame them..But at list when they sell them, they sell them with the right name..


Why I decide to share this time?
I real don't like to sell, real don't like to cut my plants..
But like you are saying.. With situation what going on in South Europe, how I can be the only one, who have this variety, specially If I know how good this one is?
I already got my lesson with LUV..
I did have this variety and lost few years back..
If before I share this one with somebody else, now we will have this variety, but..in the past I did have my collection very private..
But if something happen to me.. all this varieties will be lost..My husband hate figs.. he will get rid off all of them..and will don't think twice..
I love my figs, I'm watching them, try to do everything for them..but I'm not a 20 years any more..
How now I can have them only for myself when right in this topic people saying about problems?
And no..I don't planning to sell any..
But they will go to good hands.. to people who real love and care about figs..
For some reason you choose figs for yourself.. just to make the money..
You real don't care about figs, or people..
Few years already you trying.. and things don't work for you like you wish..
Ones again.. may be find some other way to make the money?
I almost dead..I don't care about money..why I will?
I can't take them with me..
Olya

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"And it always was a beauty of forums that you can use a nickname. And I am not looking for popularity or chance to sell/buy using this forum. And I do not care about fact that many do. After all it is expensive hobby and it is only reasonable to get some $$ to cover this obsession."

It would be helpful if you told us where you sell your figs and under which name, because I'm having a tough time believing that you are here to discuss figs.
If you ever find out what is legal or what is not, please let us know.

Ok, just few minutes ago I was begging you, Olga, not to get personal.

As you wish, I will repeat my PM to you
        

13 minutes ago
I want to make sure that you know that it is nothing personal, but you start attacking me on personal level, so here it is

You stated that you did not buy anything from other countries for last two years in your statement

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Mike, last two years I got lots of figs from North parts of US,and from all over US... nothing from outside... so I'm worry.. I think better to be safe then sorry..


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Quick payment. THANX ! Member id mboo ( Feedback Score Of 231 ) During past month

Based in Czech Republic, mboo has been an eBay member since Feb 15, 2014



This seller only sells plants. Nothing else. I can contact him to ask what exactly you bought from him last month. So be careful with personal accusation and probably you want to edit your statement about not buying anything from other countries. It will be more records if somebody want to check carefully. I am contacting you because I do not  want to humiliate you with a facts that you are not telling a truth to fellow members.

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