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Originally Posted by timclymer
Came in the mail today.  LSU Purple stems had lignified and very well rooted while Blue Ischia were very very young, looked like they had just been moved to their pots, and the stems were completely green.  Let's hope they hold up!  Anyone have pics of theirs after growing a few months?<br><br><a href="/file?id=1599189" rel="lightbox[1278826784]" target="_blank"><img src="http://files.websitetoolbox.com/30989/thumb/1599189" class="bbc_img"></a> 


I received mine like you see in the photo above 2 months ago and now it is about 2 ft tall. Dont worry about it being too young, give some nice soil and it will grow fast. Try to introduce to sun early, the figs will benefit from it a lot. I will post a photo in a few days, travelling now. Yeah, make sure they are not root bound while repotting.
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Any updates on your plants?
Attached is my Updated picture and the same plant when first up potted. It is currently 20 inches tall from soil line, the lower branches will be pruned once we have a few consecutive days of dry weather, because it is being trained as a single stem. Its currently growing in a 3 gallon container.

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Posted Reply with quote  #53 
Bump.  Did anyone with these Blue Ischia trees get figs this year?  Any confirmation whether they match Ischia Black, as greenfig's link in post #13 suggests?

Mike   central NY state, zone 5a

p.s.  Hirt's has them available again.
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Mine is about 5 ft across and tall but no figs yet. I hope to see some next year. It definitely has a lot of suckers though...
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I bought one too.  
The bad:  they're tiny... very small.
The good:  there are about 6 of them in the 4" pot.  I'll separate them in the next few days and end up with 5 or 6 trees.

Mike
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Mike,
Don't worry, they will grow very fast!
Make sure the trees are not root bound when you repot them.
Good luck!
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Here is one of my Blue Ischias pictured in the post #20 above when received. The pot is 4 gal, it is on a loan chair. There are no figs yet, it has grown a lot, as you can see.
The other one is slightly smaller in size.
Date: Dec.05, 2013

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Has anyone with this fig been able to get theirs to fruit yet? Any additional info besides what's already here?
I just got mind and I up potted it to a 1gl. Very healthy multi branched with healthy roots.

Per the last pictures greenfig posted on 12-05-2013 I don't see it being the same as the Black Ischia.
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My 2 are in 5 gallon buckets and are budding out. I haven't got fruit yet but they are about 4' tall each. I am hating the suckering going on. I am cutting suckers off those buggers constantly! Almost like Alma and Magnolia for suckers. Is anyone else having this problem with them? They better be good OR ELSE!
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Thanks Tami,

As far as the suckers go this is another nonsimilarity to a Black ischia.
Which further confirms my doubts.

But it could be something special.
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Same here, lots of suckers and grows like weed. About 4 ft tall with many leaves but I do not see any figlets yet. Harvey mentioned after his conversion with a breeder that it may need to grow tall first and then a tip cutting is needed to be taken and propagated for it to keep the plant small. Or something like that
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Ok, here it is:
http://figs4funforum.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1281602525&postcount=33

"... I mentioned the lack of fruiting of my Sierra tree which he helped develop.  He asked of my source and he pointed out that fig trees propagated by tissue culture as mine was often return to juvenility and that they must be allowed to grow up for at least 4'-5' to start fruiting again.  If I understood him correctly, I should root a new tip cuttings if I want a tree with branches that fruit at a low height.  That is something folks should keep in mind when considering tissue culture trees. ..."
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Agree with Rafed no suckers develop on plant but wish i had the problem as Javajunkie where they have to be cut
off on constant basis and grows like a weed !

Rafed perhaps one day UcDavis Ischia Black will snap out of it like the Madeira i learned to be patient with this cultivar 
it does seem to want to produce figs as i had to take some off last season for its current small size but no suckers.
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Martin,

I have a Black ischia (AD). Healthy and productive.
I purchased this one just to see for myself what it is all about. I paid like $7 or $8 for it.

This one has the leaves of a typical BI but I cannot understand why greenfigs plant has different leaves. Am I missing something?

Here are some pictures from the one I just got.

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I take back what I said about greenfig BI.
I retract my doubts.

Looking at it a little closer, greenfigs BI does have the heart shaped leaves on it. Closer to the bottom near the pot.

Sorry
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Rafed, I can take a new photo tomorrow of the fresh this year's leaves.
I do not have a Black Ischia so it is hard to compare it with my Blue.
What evident is that the Blue is very healthy looking plant and a very strong grower (as far as the wood and leaves go). I had to repot them twice last year.
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If you can take close ups of the leaves that would be great. But I think I rushed judgment and didn't mean to hit the panic button.

But looking at the pictures of your post #20 and the pictures of the ones Tami and ascpete posted do resemble an 'Ischia'. And exactly what mine looks like.

Again, sorry for rushing judgment.
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Posted Reply with quote  #68 
No worries! I'll snap a photo of a close up. But no figs, this is the only fig plant without any figlets at this time of the year yet (I hope they will show up at some point!). 
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We have contact!
My potted Blue Ischia has just started putting out 5 or 6 breba figlets. I have a terrible record here in Tallahassee getting brebas to mature, however

Rafed, the leaves will change as the plant matures.
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Posted Reply with quote  #70 
I traded with a guy on Gardenweb last year, he said it was a tissue culture Black Ischia, tiny plant. Some posters said it looked like Blue Ischia on eBay from Hirt, others said looked like Mulberry.  The plant put out a lot of branches but no figs the first year. Rooted cuttings this year.

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Pictures of the dominant leaves and a 7 lobed leaf formed on a fast growing branch, from last October.
Blue Ischia typical Leaf 10-14-13.jpg Blue Ischia typical Leaf1 10-14-13.jpg Blue Ischia typical Leaf2 10-14-13.jpg 
I was originally concerned that the tissue cultured Blue Ischia was the same cultivar as the tissue cultured Green Ischia, but they are not. I have both and they seem to be different but neither produced figs last year. Hopefully someone will be able to give a definitive Blue Ischia report this year.
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Frank,

That's great news. At least we know now it will produce.
Time to unretire the Ninja suit. But first I have to call Wonder Woman and ask her to give me a ride.

KK,

Those are some nice looking leaves.
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Posted Reply with quote  #73 
Any updates from those growing this tissue cultured cultivar?
I'm currently training a backup plant to replace the larger tree that was killed this past winter, so I will not have any figs this season.
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Posted Reply with quote  #74 
Still grows like a weed and no figs yet for me.
I can see a few buds but at this time it hard to say if they the new leaves or the fig embryos.
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Posted Reply with quote  #75 
    Just gave my Ischia Blue away to a fellow who has expressed an interest in growing fig trees...I was going to hang on to it, but after Frank's(FMD) report, I did the handoff and whished him luck with his new hobby...I'm in the process of downsizing anyway, so I try to place my trees in the hands of folks who will take care of them.
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