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Is this plant abuse?



Think it is 12 or 13 air layers.   Wasn't meant to be that many but I put the layers on 27 days ago and they have rooted nice but the tops are growing fast and some have 18" of growth from the top of the air layer pot to the apical bud.......way too much for the roots so did a second air layer further up each branch and will keep the tips pinched to slow them down.  


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It is really amazing, some of my airlayers (6 months old) are taller and healthier than the parent. All are in the ground.

There is nothing you do that can be considered plant abuse. You are a Master cloner!   Joe

What variety is that Wills? The RDB you sent me looked almost like that untill last week when I removed them. Got 3 layers off a 3ft plant. I was wondering if it would be detrimental to the plant but it actually made the plant respond with a nice flush of growth and many more branches.

One way to increase inventory. Which variety is that? Will pinching tips also promote root formation, do you think?

Rob,

Maltese Beauty.  It was just planted the 15th of March as a little itty bitty thing.  

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One way to increase inventory. Which variety is that? Will pinching tips also promote root formation, do you think?


I was told it would increase the root growth by the person I asked.  

Ya gotta love that Florida heat and sun for growing figs!
Jim

Zone envy  :)   And talk about printing $$!  Congratulations!

8 are going to friends that don't have it, for free.  

Way to go Wills, I am sure you will be rewarded in more ways than you can imagine, even though you do not expect it or request it.

I wouldn't call that abuse. That's "creativity unleashed".

Wow, nice job, Wills!!!  No abuse at all.  I once saw a slightly large tree (not fig, maybe lychee) with maybe 100 airlayers set on it. I felt sorry for the tree but happy for those that got the trees.

I've thought of starting airlayers on some trees with new growth but have never done so with new growth.  Do you still girdle it?  Actually, I tried doing one on a Valle Negra last year and it snapped off after I girdled it.  I'd like to know more about the branch characteristics you're using.

Uncle Wills is a kind and generous man! I don't care what Hman and Aaron say about you;)

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Uncle Wills is a kind and generous man! I don't care what Hman and Aaron say about you;)


Make that 9 going to friends:)  If you want one Rob, just pay the shipping,  I also have many layers on the CDD Grise if you want one.  

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Wow, nice job, Wills!!!  No abuse at all.  I once saw a slightly large tree (not fig, maybe lychee) with maybe 100 airlayers set on it. I felt sorry for the tree but happy for those that got the trees.

I've thought of starting airlayers on some trees with new growth but have never done so with new growth.  Do you still girdle it?  Actually, I tried doing one on a Valle Negra last year and it snapped off after I girdled it.  I'd like to know more about the branch characteristics you're using.


Harvey,

I'm not an expert at it or anything but frankly you don't have to be for airlayers, they are easy and success rate is close to 100% to get roots.  Think I have done 125? or so now, something like that.  The fresh green growth does not layer well for me.  Basically the stages you have fresh green growth, the growth that if you bend a stem it snaps off cleanly.   It then moves in to that stage where the stem is green but woody and no longer snaps but would bend over after being broken but stay on the plant, you can tell that stage just by the color.  Then the green stem starts getting flecks of brown as it lignifies then finally the stem is brown.  At any stage other than the soft green stage it seems to work and seems to work best when you start getting the brown flecks.  At the woody green stage the roots seem to take longer to form.

I don't do anything to the stem, no wounding, no girdling.  I do make sure I cover two nodes.   I use 16oz water bottles because the plastic is lighter and that matters....I use a bandsaw and drill press to make the bottles, each one takes just a few seconds for the whole process.  I take the water bottle and cut it off two inches or so from the bottom.  I run a drill through the cap to make the hole for the stem.  I then touch the lip of the bottle to the bandsaw and cut one side all the way up.....arg is hard to explain.  I will make a post on it later if you want.  picture is worth 1000 words.

Unlike most I don't seal the top of the airlayer at all.  The bottom of the airlayer is restricted but water still exits. I do make sure the top of the air layer is pointed up.  This time of year rain is pretty steady, at least every 3 days and mother nature keeps the airlayers watered.  The outside is wrapped in foil but the nice thing about keeping them open at the top is you don't have to tear the foil back to see if they are rooted.  Once the roots take off well they will poke up out of the top in to the air a bit so you will see them.  Now that is a Florida thing.....if I was somewhere where the humidity was low I would seal the top or you would have to water them 3 times a day.  Or you could do a layer container that used two bottle tops... I will put that version in the thread.  


Wills,

Without the story attached to it one would think this is a picture of a "Redneck" Christmas tree;)

Rafed,

Lol I know..the foil in my yard makes it very festive:)

Wills,

I agree with Rafed. If I do my Decorate a fig tree for Christmas contest again next year that is a contender. I think alot of folks would love to find one of those Airlayers under the tree Christmas morning.

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Uncle Wills is a kind and generous man! I don't care what Hman and Aaron say about you;)
  HA You can't go crossing forum lines here Blueboy. I am sure one of those layers is for Mr. CLint

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Originally Posted by blueboy1977
Uncle Wills is a kind and generous man! I don't care what Hman and Aaron say about you;)
  HA You can't go crossing forum lines here Blueboy. I am sure one of those layers is for Mr. CLint


Lmao, yeah it is in the mail, I have a hunch that he and Aaron are actually the same person:)

I've had the problem of a small air layer growing too large before cutting.  I cut them anyway and potted them up.  I had a Ronde de Bordeaux that looked pitiful from wilt a few hours after cutting.  I just cut off all but a few upper leaves and put a drip line in the pot.  It's now putting out new growth.

I had one air layer that only had one tiny root after after 30 days and it broke off.  I stuck it in the garden after cutting it off and it's now putting out new leaves after a few weeks.

I guess the  moral of my story, anticipate it to grow more than you expect.  And if it does, cut it anyway.. it should recover.  I haven't lost an air layer yet, however sick they look after cutting.

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I've had the problem of a small air layer growing too large before cutting.  I cut them anyway and potted them up.  I had a Ronde de Bordeaux that looked pitiful from wilt a few hours after cutting.  I just cut off all but a few upper leaves and put a drip line in the pot.  It's now putting out new growth.



I considered it but I was trying to avoid the setback.  These bottles are not huge so the root mass isn't that great and the tops.......some of the new growth was the size of a dime almost.  I really worried I could lose 30% of them and have a lot of friends that want them so went with the less risky way.  Plus I hate how badly it sets them back to hack off the leaves.   It was mostly my fault as I was just pushing the plants hard to put size on them.  I should have backed off on the juice and that would have slowed them down naturally.  Still learning.

It is an impressive growth from that little tree, congrats!
It is a nice way to make your friends happy for sure!

I've been afraid to do air layers up to this point.  Probably just an irrational fear on my part, with the first time being the hardest.  This kind of inspires me to get my air-layer act together.
Our local high school has an active FFA program with lots of horticulture classes and such.  Last spring I looked into their greenhouse and saw some kind of indoor plant/shrub that looked kinda sorta like a rubber tree.  Every single branch on the tree/bush had an airlayer going on it.  Each one was tagged with the name of the student that did it.  ( I think maybe I should sit in on that class ;-)
Jim

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