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Sas, there's a guy from the texas rare fruit yahoo group who's growing all of these seedlings of HoneyJar jujube in hopes of getting a larger fruit of the same quality in the Austin area.  I view that project as pretty crazy, but nice if something nice comes up.  There are other minor fruits that can use his attention more profitably, I believe.  

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Sherry: Those Persimmon rolls look very yummy please give us the recipe i.e exactly how do you dry them and for how long etc.. which cultivars are the best for drying etc

Sas, I grow Fuyu and Hichaya. My favorite for drying is Hichaya because the fruits are large and  always bear more than I can eat. When the fruit turns orange and is ripe but still firm I peel the skin and leave on the top stem or cap of fruit. This is where I tie a string to it and dry it in my shed. it takes a month or more for whole fruit to dehydrate but it is worth it. The natural sugar is condensed and fruit is very sweet. To roll in pine nuts, I cut dry persimmon fruit open , sprinkle nuts and roll it back up and slice. Very easy and addictive.  Here is video to show how it is usually dried.

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Great info. Thank You.

 That Hachia tree is bigger than my house lol...

How do store bought jujube compare to ripe off the tree? I've had some good and bad ones from the store.

Store bought ones are picked  green and they turn brown eventually, so they're usually a bit dry and not as sweet.

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How long would it take for a new variety to make its way into the US?

The "Kaohsiung 11," nicknamed "Honey," is the fourth variety Taiwan has developed since 2011, said Chiou Chu-ying, a researcher at the Kaohsiung District Agricultural Research and Extension Station in southern Taiwan.





Here are some links I have collected about jujubes. Mr. Meyer has a huge variety and would seem to be a likely source for anything new to our shores. He also sells a book which is basically every article he has collected over the years on growing jujube for about $30. Well worth the price, imho. When I bought from them, they communicated via telephone or email and mailed payment exclusively.

http://www.tandeecal.com/page3.htm

http://www.jujubesales.com/Jujube-Scionwood.php

http://www.treesofjoy.com/content/jujube

http://www.texasgardener.com/pastissues/janfeb08/Jujube.html

https://www.rollingrivernursery.com/component/virtuemart/fruit-trees/jujubes-ziziphus-jujuba

Info about the Meyers:

http://www.azrfg.org/festivalOfFruit/speakers.html#rogerMeyer

http://www.dianangelov.com/EFA/nurseries/meyer.htm

 

I have two year old  Li, Shanxi , Sherwood, Lang, and Yin in-ground for a year. Not quite ready for grafting and no suckers yet.

I’ve successfully grown from seed after grinding through the shell but not sure what quality of fruit it will produce.

I love dried jujubes. Like figs, muscadines, elderberries, autumn olive, etc, jujubes are very low maintenance.

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Gogifure,
Nice post!  That's a very interesting fruit.
Unfortunately I can't find a place to buy them in Canada.
Do you know if they can be propagated from cuttings?

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Pino,

Try this guy in Quebec:

http://www.floraexotica.ca/Fruit.htm

Perfect and they ship!
Thanks Sas!
They seem to have the Indian Jujube (ziziphus mauritiana) wonder how that compares to the Li and Chinese ones?


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Thanks Pino!

There has been success in rooting scion wood by misting.
You can also buy dried jujube online to make sure you like the flavor then grind, acid, or clip the seeds so it won't take a year for them to break out. They grow quickly.

Thanks Steve.
I am looking now for some dry jujubes.  Fresh ones should also work?
Rooting by misting then means green growing cuttings not dormant?

Not sure. I am assuming dormant. In Meyers article collection (about an inch thick) rooting from cuttings is very rarely mentioned. They seem to have a "problem" with frequent suckering where it is reccomended to run them over with a mower unless you want more trees, so it is most common to plant one, reap the suckers and order scion for grafts. Quickest way to a productive tree it seems.

Cheapest hong zoa (jujube) by the pound is asian naturals in San Francisco but the shipping can be as much as the fruit at $3/lb. See H23:

http://www.drkangformulas.com/orderquick/herb2.htm

If you want just a few pounds at twice the rate try QI herbal opothecary, part number AN298.

We had our wild trees tested by the ag office because we didn't know what they were. And it turns out to be jujube! I only know they are wild jujube though.

I actually thought they were "weed" trees & was going to chop them but my husband liked the way the trees look. I have never tasted any fruits though. I didn't know you could eat them. Wow, learn something new everyday! I think last I counted we have about 9 trees that are tall. The rest I ran over with a lawnmower :(

Can't wait to try them this year!

From what I understand that area of Texas has a lot of Sherwood descended seedlings that don't produce much.  You're better off getting a real variety, either with scions and grafting on to your volunteers or whole potted plant.

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Pino,
The Indian jujube (ziziphus mauritiana)  is a tropical plant . Not the same as Zizyphus Zizyphus.
According to Mr. Meyer, Zizyphus Zizyphus can handle -30  temperatures.

Thanks Sas.  I needed to know that.  The Z. mauritiana won't work for me.
 
I may have found a nursery in Canada that sells jujube seedlings but they don't ship.

There is a U-tube video where a lady just stuck them in a pot of soil and they rooted. Said either dormant or not. I'm looking for cuttings of Li and Sugar Cane. Sherwood is the name of a person as well as the tree and he used to root them commercially but I do not know the details.

Jenn,

The value of a rootstock is often underestimated. If I were you I would try grafting to some of your trees. I got scion from England's Orchard very reasonably. I haven't bought the book that Roger Meyer wrote so I cannot comment on it.

I decided to grow them when my ADHD son found a tree planted by the sidewalk here in Denver (and many will say that they don't make it in zone 5), and said he loved them because they made him feel calm. I looked them up and the are purported to have a calming effect on the nerves. Worth a million in my opinion! My trees began bearing last year but I only got a handful.

http://paulchong.net/2012/11/28/jujube-fruit-chinese-date-health-benefits/

It costs $35 cdn for an individual to import ziziphus jujuba cuttings to Canada from the US so I'd order several varieties with one permit:

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/DAM/DAM-plants-vegetaux/STAGING/text-texte/c5256_1331652913719_eng.pdf

Some are good fresh like an apple off the tree while others should be left to dry on the tree, then picked.

Sherwood is a vary late, long season type. I'd go with Li and Shanxi Li with a shorter, cooler season.

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Jenn,

The value of a rootstock is often underestimated. If I were you I would try grafting to some of your trees. I got scion from England's Orchard very reasonably. I haven't bought the book that Roger Meyer wrote so I cannot comment on it.

I decided to grow them when my ADHD son found a tree planted by the sidewalk here in Denver (and many will say that they don't make it in zone 5), and said he loved them because they made him feel calm. I looked them up and the are purported to have a calming effect on the nerves. Worth a million in my opinion! My trees began bearing last year but I only got a handful.

http://paulchong.net/2012/11/28/jujube-fruit-chinese-date-health-benefits/


Thank you! I will look into getting some. I have never tried grafting, but it would be worth a try. I was out by some of the trees today and they are about 5" girth, so definitely a solid tree that has made it through our drought.

Actually I can't wait to try them this year. Thank you for the info!!

Thank you Sas! It doesn't seem as hard as I thought it would be. Will definitely give this a try. Thanks :)

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Here are few of my fruits and my trees. These pictures are taken few years ago. I didn't know that time, I have to wait till the fruit turn brown.


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