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"Just a little off the top and sides"...

...Or maybe I should say "Funeral for a Friend".

Today was the first step toward getting rid of my Brown Turkey, since almost all of the fruit is inedible due to beetle-caused souring. I would have taken it out completely, but earlier this spring I had grafted a twig of LSU Improved Celeste onto the top and didn't want to lose it. So, after cutting off the other branches and shredding them into mulch, I air-layered the graft in hopes that it will still grow roots despite all the 
BT carnage. I kept a few leaves in case that will help power some root formation. 


When and if the air layer can be transferred to a pot, I'll remove the rest of the BT and get the ground ready for a couple of avocados.

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You're going to get rid of it? But it looks so cute all hacked and pruned up like that, lol.  

Perhaps you could turn what's left into a topiary of Big Bird, with an Improved Celeste top-knot. :)

Do you know if avocado will grow in your area? It's near impossible to grow in Phoenix. I know Tuscon might be a little cooler but not that much.

Now there's a thought--it probably would make a nice topiary!

The avocados I'm planting are 'Opal' (medium sized, green) and 'Wilma' (large, black)--fairly recent heat/cold adapted varieties from Texas; you can find information about them online, but unfortunately they aren't yet widely available. According to the information I was given they are self-fertile with thin, edible skin; grafted onto 'Lula' seedling rootstock (a heat & salt tolerant West Indian/Guatamalan cross) and reportedly hardy down to 16 and 14 degrees Fahrenheit, respectively.

Best looking BT I ever saw.

That is a neat mean machine. Looks like I need to get one to mulch the small branches that are prune off my fruit trees. Where did you get the machine Ken ?

Harbor Freight, around $150. Takes branches up to an inch and a half in diameter. Don't get the one with the blue top--the green-topped one is the newer model and vastly superior to the old one.

So much BrownTurkeycide on this board...

Indeed. Mine was actually quite delicious for years--I even preferred it to my Black Mission because it was so productive and the figs were so big. By weight, I'll bet it produced 50 times what my Black Mission of the same age  produced--but once the beetles showed up, it was worthless. If I could have found a way to protect the fruit I never would have gotten rid of it, but I tried everything and nothing was effective. In my area, an open eye and interior void are just not worth the trouble.

I hooked up the come-along and yanked the former brown turkey out of the ground this morning. Now that it has been laid to rest, the area where it once grew has been spaded, leveled, and mulched--all ready for the new avocado trees. As I was scooping mulch out of the pile, I uncovered a fairly recently-hatched kingsnake, which I moved to a safer location in the mulch under a plum tree. Now, admit it, you ophidiophobic types; that is one cute little baby snake!

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Enjoy your avocado trees.  We looked at property today that had some, and we parked in the shade of one.  I got out of the car, and there on the ground in some leaves was a FREE huge Avocado!  I've got 6 living seeds in water with roots and a few leaves that I plan to plant when we get our acreage, but most property where we are looking is in Avocado country, and there is no property without one or two of those trees on it.

Good luck with your air layer!

Suzi

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I would so love to be able to plant avocados in ground, but not interested in battling beetles. Awesome little snake!!!

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 Now, admit it, you ophidiophobic types; that is one cute little baby snake!


Now there's a word you don't see everyday. ;)  We have king snakes around here too, and I've seen some baby ones - even in the garage. I don't hate them and would never, ever, ever harm one, but I wouldn't be able to pick one up.

Glad you got your tree removed, and your Improved Celeste saved.

We are smack-dab in the middle of avocado zone with avo ranches all around. We have about a half dozen or so trees on the hillside. The original owner did not plant the best of varieties, but most are good enough.

Ken,

I can tell you that Wilma is not that cold tolerant. I have tried growing them in-ground several times. They will need a heated shelter when it gets below 25F. Even a South-facing side with cover is not enough. The rootstock for Wilma is usually Lula. My Wilma died to the ground tw Winters ago. After a long wait, shoots from the rootstock finally came up and this is what I have now. I build a EMT conduit tubing frame and cover it with heavy clear plastic and place a heat source inside (100W bulb) when a hard freeze is anticipated. We'll see how long I can keep that up before it becomes impractical and it has to take its chances with the cold. Maybe global warming will have an up-side for us in zone 8b ;-))

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Suzi, I hope they work out. Tucson really isn't the right place for them, although my neighbor had a couple of huge Zutanos until last year, when he decided to cut them down (they were declining). Sounds like you're in Avocado heaven!

BLB, I'm not interested in battling beetles either (I keep trying, but for some fruits it's a lost cause). I hope there aren't any around here that eat avocados!

Gina, I knew there had to be a word for it, so I googled "snake phobia", and it sounded so esoteric I couldn't resist using it. Glad your case of it sounds particularly mild. When I was a kid my mom took a very dim view of my interest in snakes, and certainly had no desire to even touch one--but eventually she became quite fond of a pet kingsnake and reached the point that she even enjoyed holding it. You never know!

Ruben, that's certainly bad news! I hunted all over before settling on these, and they sounded like the perfect solution! I sure hope I have better luck, and maybe I will  because it rarely even drops below 28F in my yard--but it can happen. I intend to use a trick I read about, where you plant them in a very deep hole and then gradually (over three years) raise the soil level until the graft is a few inches below grade. The idea is that if the tree does get killed in a hard freeze, when (and if) it resprouts, it will be from the grafted part. Sounds good anyway! Have you gotten any fruit from the Lula rootstock growth? If so, how is it?

I'll wait until spring to put them in the ground so they'll have a full season of growth before the cold weather hits. They'll be a few feet out from a south-facing wall, but it's free-standing (not part of the house) and won't hold much heat. Guess I'd better take advantage of your misfortune and rig up a cover and heat source for those cold nights--just in case.

Ken,

There is another trick you can do that won't take years. Just add a thick layer of mulch around the tree and when a freeze is anticipated, mound the mulch around the trunk. It needs to be a large mound though. Grafts are usually placed about 6" from the soil line so you want to go at least another 6" above that. Good luck!

Good tip, Ruben--thanks.

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We much prefer lizards, dragons to be specific

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Barry,

   That's gorgeous. Is he your's now? Is that normal coloration?

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