I have a question.  Is Lattarula, Lattrola, Latarolla, Italian Honey, White Marseilles the same fig?  I have the following trees and cuttings, Lattarula (1yr old tree), Lattarola cuttings started 3 weeks ago and growing very fast, Italian Honey (3yrs old), White Marseilles (3yrs) planted in yard. 

The reason I am asking is some say that Latarola has a red center and is an excellent tasting fig.  I may not be able to taste Latorolla till 2012.  However, my Italian Honey died to ground in 2009 but came back and reached 6 feet in 2010.  It produced a lot of the same exact size figs.  The center was amber in color and the taste very bland.  I mean very bland!  So bland that if you looked up the word bland in the dictionary, you would see a picture of my fig tree!  And the skin was tough too!  I am considering culling this tree!  My White Marelilles does not look anything like my IH.  Figs on my WM were large, turned a pretty yellow when ripe and had a very sweet taste plus the figs size and shape was different.  So, how can these trees be the same? 

For those that have ALL, Latturula, Latorola and IH.....
How did the fruit taste? 
What the center red or amber?  ANd I know the color and center color of a fig varies depending on temperature and climate.
Was the skin tough!

I am designing my fig orchard and trying to decide whether to keep my IH or give it another year planted in the ground.  I have no information on Latarolla but it begs the question of are these the same fig.  My wife is my fig taster. She will not even taste IH figs anymore or anything that look like it!  She really only wants black figs planted in the yard.  Her favorite is Ronde de Bourdeaux (thank you Bass!!!).  But these green figs Green Greek, Paradiso, Stella, Atreano and Golden Atreano put a smile on her face.  So I will be planting these but not Lattarula or Lattrola or Latarolla or IH if you guys can convenience me otherwise.  Thanks!  Cheers!

I have noticed the names Lattarula and Lattarulla but not any other variation of the name.
Could the rest of the names be just because of spelling confusion?

It could be but I do know that Bass has a Latarolla on his website.  Is it the same as those on Jon's Fig varieties website?  I purchased some Latarolla cuttings last month off eBay; and hoping they are not the same as my bland tree.  Time will tell but while my mind is trying to figure them out, I thought maybe someone out there has both and knows the answer.  But I am not sure.

I acquired a Lattarolla from ejp3 this summer but I have not seen it fruit or leaf yet. I have seen him say in prior posts that they are different. From everything I seen all those names i.e. Lattarulla, Marseilles, Italian Honey are all synonyms. The Latarolla and Latarulla (Italian Honey) look very similar on the outside but the Latarolla has more pink inside while the Italian Honey is more tan/white. But on the variety pages the breba and main crop look slightly different on them. I live in a cooler climate so maybe the Latarolla will not be as pink inside. Hey they could be the same thing in some climates and cultures where weather affects the breba and main crop to look different.  I think they are all different and are their own variety. I don't think anyone knows definitely.


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Dominick
Zone6a-MA

They they are the same, or not. And if you succeed in growing and proving that one Latarolla tree is the same as one Lattarula tree, you still haven't proved that every tree by either name is the same.

Yep...Ungh! I read that last post 3 times and my head hurts! haha! I'll just stick with 'A fig has a thousand names and a name has a thousand figs!'

I just got a few cuttings from a member and was told that they are of a TRUE LATTARULLA with the red/pink interior/meat.

Until then I always thought that the I/H and Lattarulla were the same.

My Latarrula(4yrs) is a keeper. I like the seed crunch and the flavor is not bad. It is not as productive as Desert King but in my zone if a variant can
give me 20 plus figs per tree, I am happy. I have ejp3 tree and I am confident I will get to try some figs this season. It had some figs last season
and since it was a new start, I pinched the figs off.

In my collection.....Italian Honey, Latturola, and "Yellow" Marseilles are completely different figs. I also have a "White" Marseilles that has not yet fruited for me.

My pink pulp Latturola looks very much like Conadria. Italian Honey is amber pulped....sweet and juicy...but subject to heavy rainfall damage. Yellow Marseilles has a very interesting characteristic.......the seeds are VERY large giving this fig a very pleasant and pronounced nutty taste. No other fig has seeds as large as Yellow Marseilles.....none.   It handles rainfall fairly well, producing two crops in my area.  I told my two young fig apprentices (my grandson and his friend) that is it a "peanut butter and jelly fig". They really do have that flavor profile. Time will tell about the White Marseilles.

Dan, my in-ground Yellow Marseille was labeled Marseilles when I got it 3 years ago.  Mine produces 2 crops also, very sweet and has very large seeds.  Last year was the first time it fruited for me and I kept waiting for the large green figs to turn dark.  Instead they turned yellow and yellow and yellow and not the same as Lattrula or Latorola.  I also have a few small White Marseilles trees that I propagated from cuttings last year.  I think I got them from Jon via eBay.  I sure hope they fruit this year so I know what to do with those trees.

I have Italian Honey,the cultivars with amber interior,and they are not bland here.
It makes+ tasty Breba and tasty main crop.
I also know another gardener much north of me ,in Connecticut,with the same cultivar and it is it's best tree.
So I think location plays an important roll,if a fig is  very good or bland.
In my location,Italian Honey resist rain just fine,but ,the climate is not as rainy as Louisiana where Dan ,has problem with rain.
There is another variant close to all this names ,it is called ,St Anthony.

Ive heard italian honey is the same as lattarulla.  I have lattarulla and another called ficazanna that are very similar but ripen at different times and the fruit is very slightly different.  Lastly, Lattarulla is not as prolific as ficazanna.

Either way, they are my best early white figs.  Really tasty in toronto and reliable.  Lets put it this way, my entire family were in preference of dark/black figs 100% before we starting getting good crops from latt/fic and now they are near the top of our list for early to mid figs.

Ive heard Italian honey is the same as lattarulla.  I have lattarulla and another called ficazanna that are very similar but ripen at different times and the fruit is very slightly different.  Lastly, Lattarulla is not as prolific as ficazanna.

Either way, they are my best early white figs.  Really tasty in Toronto and reliable.  Lets put it this way, my entire family were in preference of dark/black figs 100% before we starting getting good crops from latt/fic and now they are near the top of our list for early to mid figs.  Easy to grow too!


The first two pics are fic and the last shows the latt but not the inside.
 

Nas, I truly love my Italian Honey tree, the foilage on my tree is beautiful but the figs lack flavor and taste.  I hope my tree changes.

Herman if my IH survives the winter outside, I'm gonna repot it and give it one more try.

Dennis:Why do not you plant it outside in the ground.
Mine is inground and do well.!
May be it does not like in pot,and makes inferior fruits when not inground.
This is a cold hardy tree,I see no reson to have it pampered in a pot.

Ok Herman2, you could be right.  I will give them both another try.  I got 3 Celeste trees planted in ground 2 years now.  The 3 trees were suppose to be Italian Everbearing, Kadota, and Black Jack.  These were my first fig trees purchased from TyTy 6 years ago.  They never fruited until last year.  The growth, fruit and leaf pattern are all the same.  I learned my lesson with TyTy but it is too late to do anything now.  So, I plan on removing 2 of those trees and planting one of my Italian Honey trees and Latturula in the other hole.    I am hoping they improve with taste.  I will know this summer.  thanks,

Dennis, this is my take on the matter.  I have grown latarulla, which I believe is also known as Italian honey fig.  It was a fairly large fig with amber interior.  Taste is pretty good and split only rarely.  It died back to the ground here and at a friends location not far from here regularly.  Have also grown marseilles, which was around the same size or smaller, whitish interior heavy seeds, more open eye, rounder in shape, split much more here and also died back to the ground regularly.  In my opinion tasted not as good as latarulla.  I aquired a few cuttings from a former neighbor of mine 20 years ago of what he told me was latarolla.  I asked twice saying "do you mean latarulla?" and he said no, with an o.  He had a farm in Italy where he said the original tree was.  After researching, I am reasonably sure that  what he gave me was indeed latarolla.  The fig is larger than Italian honey, slightly more greenish, reddish to red interior, tighter eye, never splits, is much more cold resistant and tastes much much better.  As Dan mentioned, it does resemble conadria but here conadria needs more heat than we usually get to taste anywhere near as good,  This year the conadria was as good but that dosent happen too often.  

I had bought a couple Latarolla cuttings ( labelled at least as such) They were thick scions, but rooted quickly, now potted up, I am curious to see what they turn out to be after reading this discussion.

The Edlible Landscaping website says this about "Lattarulla":

"At our nursery Lattarulla ripens its yellow figs earlier then all others, usually starting in June or July. Because of fluctuating winter weather, these buds can become damaged and not fruit as much as in milder regions such as the Pacific Northwest. The fall crops are inferior fruit because they need pollination like the King fig they resemble. Also called Danny's Delight, this fig has ripened its fruit near Lake Michigan outside. Figs are large, pale green to yellow, sweet and delicious. Fruits are well worth the effort since they are the first to ripen, usually in mid-June at our nursery."

However, I have read at the figs4fun varieties list that there are two crops and the 2nd crop is flavor rich and sweet.  Can anyone shed light on whether it tends more toward being a breba-only fig or whether it does give a good main crop?  Generally it sounds like a good fig for the NW but I'm wondering whether it would be well suited for the east.

We will find out!

To clarify my question, does the fall crop really need pollenation to properly ripen?  Thanks!

Latarulla and Latarolla are indeed different. This topic came up in the past and I posted a pic of both figs side by side. Latarolla is larger and pinkish red inside, much tastier too. Those I sent Latarolla scion to recently will be in for a treat when they get this one to fruit  

I need to start every thread saying....welcome to the world of figs!  When I started this thread 2 years ago, I was confused by the names between Latturula, Lattrola, Lemon and Marseilles White.  I have each of these today.  I just recently received a Lattrola tree and some cuttings.  I think Jon's varities web site isn't 100% correct stating all these are the same.  I disagree.  No offense Jon!  IMHO, all 4 of these are not the same fig. Here is what I found to be different.

Marseilles white
This fig is the first in my climate to ripen.  My tree is in planted in my orchard.  Produces large green figs that crack on the sides when ripe.  Has ribs around it.  Has white interior and is very sweet, but not rich.  My tree has grown into a beautiful vase form.

Lattrula
Today I have several of these trees.  Back when I first started this thread, I only had one.  Mine is planted in my orchard.  It grows about 6 feet a year!  It is one of my oldest trees and came from One Green World.  The figs on my tree are yellow and round as a ping pong ball.  My tree was mislabeled.  It's growing right beside my Peter's Honey and guys guess what?  they are the same tree.  So, in 2011 I ordered 4 more Latturluas each from Rolling River, EL, forum friend, and Burnt Ridge.  These fig are the true Latturula.  They have the exact same rib design as my Marseilles White.  The only difference is the figs on my Latturula are meduim size and dark yellow....mustard color...darker than a post-it note.  It has a sweet rich honey flavor.  Notice, I'm saying my Latturula because I've learned some of these nurseries have gotten the labels mixed up and now every body is confused.  I know its a honest mistake but at least now I know.

Lemon
Jon wrote about tasting his first lemon fig back in 08 I think.  So last year I bought 2 from Petal from the Past.  Lemon is a dwarf tree kinda like Black Jack.  My two trees only spread outwards in growth.  They did not grow upward.  They produced large light yellow smooth skinned figs.  They have a hollow center with amber pulp and not sweet.  The birds did not even eat them but the turtles did.  My two trees will live only one more year before I place it on the cull pile.

Lattrola
A forum friend sold me one of their Latrolla trees.  It did not fruit last year but will this year.  From what friends are saying, Lattrola is not the same as Lattrula and think they are correct.  Lattrola has a red center and is very sweet.  I've read a lot of literature on Lattrola and look forward to my tree fruiting this year.

Here are a few pics of my Peter's Honey which was labeled Latturula.  And a few pics of Marseilles White.  Have to go hunt and find my Lemon pics.

Mine did not fruit yet but Latarulla, Lattarola and Lattarula are the same name in different Italian dialects.
In Italian, lattero is a sucker, so a lattarulla is a fast growing sucker like, and this seems to be a characteristic of this fig variety: fast growing.
When my father and my gran-father used the Lattarula name, they referred to the tree characteristic more than the fruits and I had realized that at times the fruits were different in shape or color but it was still a Lattarula fig tree. This makes me conclude that the confusion was brought in at the same time as the first fig cuttings.

Dennis, since you have the Lattarulla from EL what do you think of their description of this tree i.e. that it needs pollenation for the main crop?