Good day!  I visited a local nursery north of me. Way back in the back of the nursery were 4 or 5 large fig trees in 5 gallon pots.  They were Brown Turkey (Jason's Favorite....hehehe), Black Jack, and Peter's Honey. The BT and BJ were $28 bucks.  The PH was $54.  The BJ had huge ping ball size figs.  The owner tried to get me to buy the BJ saying it was so sweet and so juicy.  I told him my flip-flop taste better than any BJ fig.  He looked at me and said, what do you know about figs?  After a 15 minute lesson from me on Figs, the different varieties, and my collection.  He stepped back and ask if he could buy some trees from me.  I just laughed and said no thanks.  <br><br>When I pulled out the BT tree, I asked him was the tree a true BT and he said he did not know.  I asked them why?  The owner said, most of their figs come from Monrovia inside a green pot.   He said, if the pot is black, then they do not know were it came from.  I told them they need to tell people thinking it is a BT and this is how names of figs get screwed up!  He agreed.  <br><br>Well, I got off my soap box and bought the tree for $28 bucks.  By looking at the leaf pattern, I knowt it's not a BT.  I'm a sucker for a good deal and to me this was a good deal.  This tree has nice red veins and long finger leaves.  So,  what type of fig is it?  I think it's Petite Negra however, the leaf pattern does not match any of my 4 PN trees.  My PN trees have huge leaves.  This tree has the longest and skinnest lobes of any of my trees.  There are a few tiny figs trying to pop but nothing to see this year.  I know the tree is root bound and has been feed lots of liquid fertilizer.  I will leave it in its pot until the Fall.  Anyone would like to take a stab at what tree this is?<br><br>thank you in advance.<br>

The leaves and redness look very much like the VDB I got from El last year.

Grant

Nice tree for $28 - whatever it is :)

Nice.

Thanks Nichole!

Hey Dom, does CL, JP, NW and VN have red veins?  I don't have any of those varieties. 

Grant, VdB was my first thought and Petite Negra was my second.  Both of these are dark figs but the leaf patterns don't match any of my trees.  But no figs yet!  I have 10 VdBs from EL that I purchased 2 or 3 years ago.  They are big trees now with lots of fig.  Yesterday I picked my first Negronne brebra.  It was huge.  But this so called BT has no figs on it yet.  What gives?

I'm leaning towards Negronne.

http://www.raysfiginfo.com/id-light.html looks like a brunswick to me look at the pic on the link I have the same leaf on my tree and was told by the owner of the mother tree its a brunswick 

Maybe a nice Brunswick?

They are all small still. But the Valle Negra is the only red fig and it had a tinge of red to the stems but not like some pics of Negretta.

Tony, I had a 5 yr old Brunswick fig year.  I love the flavor and taste of those figs very rich and sweet.  Brunswick came to my mind too but the leaves don't match my tree.  Brunswick have distinctive leave patterns.  I don't think ....well I hope it's not Brunswick.  If it is, oh well.  Although I love Brunswick figs, with too much rain the figs open up like a sunflower!  Plus fig beetles are drawn to Brunswick, I don't know why. 

Here's an interesting story, last summer I let my big Brunswick tree die.  I did not water it for 2 months.  It shriveled up and died fast.  Then one day, I emptied out the huge container, shook off all the dirt and toss the root balls (ended up with 2 trees after I took them down to root) at the end of my pool.  The 2 root balls just sat there over Summer, Fall and Winter.  Guess what happened this Spring?  Yeap, you guessed it!  Both root balls survived and started a 6 inch shoot!  So, I potted the root balls up in some MG potting soil inside a 3 gallon pot.  I guess the trees deserves to live!  But I won't plant them in my orchard.

Well, since most think it's a Brunswick, then I plan on beating the *^$$&*)_ out of this thing when I get home!  Nah, just joking.  But I will create my first self watering pot and place it inside there and make sure to add plastic cover on the top to keep the tree from getting over watered by the rain. 

I'll take some picture of this process from start to finish and post pics today and this Fall of the results.

Some Brunswick do show redish tips and also the fruits has some redish color in the stagnant stage.
So yes ,I would say is Brunswick.
It does have leaves like Valle Negra,at this point in life but I do not think it is.
Valle Negra is not found in Large Nurseries,because it is rare and special.

I vote for Magnolia (aka Brunswick), based on the leaf pattern plus the fact that figs like VdB, Negronne, Calabrese Long and Petit Negri are not yet mainstreamed into most local nurseries. Magnolia can be had at Lowe's....sometimes.

NB: When a fig tree loses its tag, slap a BT label on it and we're good to go. LOL. 

Dennis I too bought a brown turkey locally that looks allot like yours clearly not a BT . Also has Red tips and red leaf stems.

and odd brnach with single lobed leaves

For some reason, and after doing some local browsing at garden centers, ( in and around Lower-Westchester County, NY ), there seems to be a flood of "Negronne" in the nurseries this year.   Also, ... "Celeste"..."Peter's Honey"...and of course, the ubiquitous/infamous..."Brown Turkey"...all poorly grown, and all, over-priced.

Prices:....$49.00 - $60.00...3 and 5 gallon plants.  These "plants" are nothing more than skinny, pencil-thick twigs with roots.  And as a bonus, some free FMV.

Frank

I think your tree looks like "Negronne".

My first thought was petite negri but I have that from el and vdb from el and both seem different I also have a vdb from Adriano that has larger figs than vdb el this bt not plant is not showing any signs of fmv. When figs ripen it will be easier to see what it might be.

Looks just like my Brown Turkeys. LOL! Just kidding. The leaf looks a little like my Black Mission, but it's much more narrow. The little spade shaped leaves in the middle look like some of the leaves on my Pingo de Mel. It's a beautiful plant though. Congrats on the find!

Hi Noss, yes I am thinking about airlayering that branch very odd that every leaf on that branch is single lobed.

Nelson, Yours looks like possibly a VdB, especially because of the single lobed leaves. Vista OL was the same way - only single lobed leaves for 4-5 years, so I thought it was mis-labeled, then it fruited and the leaves became normal again. Also possibly a Negronne. My OC friend's tree has 5 and 7 lobed leaves like this.

Thanks Jon, once I get some ripe figs this summer I will post pics.

Hey Nelson,

Some of the pics under "more pics"on petite negri have both spade shaped unlobed leaves and lobed leaves that look like your fig. Just noticed that as I was looking at the figs on this excellent site.

UPDATE; I am not convinced that this tree is a Brunswick. After further research on this tree, I talked with the second owner of the greenhouse. He confessed that the brown turkey figs came from a local elderly man living in uptown Charlotte years ago. He would not give me the man's name and I respect that. He did say the man was not originally from Charlotte, but talks with an accent. He said, the figs are not brown, but black. The owner said, he has no knowledge of figs, but does get trees from local personnel but mostly from Monrovia. He said, my tree did not have a Monrovia tag, just a plain brown turkey tag that's because a local person gave him cuttings years ago and they propagate them. That was 5 years ago. He said, in our area people ask for Brown Turkey by name so if they run out of the Monrovia Brown Turkeys, they push the local Brown Turkey fig. When I told him it wasn't a Brown Turkey he said, it does not look like the Monrovia Brown Turkeys. I said, that's because it is not. He said, the Monrovia Brown Turkey leaves are fatter. He said, the local Brown Turkey leaves are longer. He said, they have to push the Monrovia because they have more money tied up in them. Plus he said people like to see fancy pretty labels. I asked if that was why all the Monrovia products were in walk way and the local brown turkeys were stuck in the back. He said yes. I found one more of his Brown Turkey fig tree. It was stuck way back in the a corner. The tips were red and I grabbed it! The price was the same. After I bought the tree, I told the owner the tree was not a Brown Turkey. He ask what was it and I told him the jury is out until this summer.

Nelson, I agree with you! This tree is not a Brunswick! It's not Violette de Bordeaux. It's not Negronne. It's not Petite Negra. I also have those trees too. The tips on my other 4 Brown Turkey fig trees that came from Petals from The Past are not red like these. These trees could very well be Valle Negra! The leaf pattern looks exactly like Leon's in the other forum. For now, I will label these 2 trees....Brown Turkey NOT! But I do believe they are Valle Negra. I will confirm my theory in a few months.

More to come.....cheers,

Very exciting for you!  Love it when what you bought turns out to be something better!!

You know Suzi, it sorta explains every body's confusion with figs.  The owner of the original tree probaly could not remember the name of it.  And he probaly brought a cutting over with him when oversees or got cuttings sent to him from his native land and planted the tree here.  I do know where this nursery is located, it's in the oldest part of Charlotte where there are lots of tiny buglows and families with back yard gardens.  The owner said Brown Turkey is a common name for fig trees. He also said since folks here know that name, they would likely buy it if the name was written as Brown Turkey.  To me, that's wrong but hey, this store was a business and they are doing whatever they can to survive.  But I still don't like it.