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Madeira island fig cuttings plantation old tradition..

The method of the branches of the fig plantation in the ground ... old tradition, a square piece of cloth 50 by 50 cm pour a portion of land in the middle ad wheat cementes join together small pieces of urine chicken or cow  or pork dry urine, then crack the tip of the twig in half 5cm, put the stick in the middle of the cloth  , tie the cloth with the greyhound in the middle, make a hole in the ground and put into the hole and cover with soil+ water 2 times per day, every week throw urine or chicken or cow twist on the fig tree, when it is a lie to flourish ad water with dish soap  once a month, when they are big fig tree and ready to give figs lie sulfur over...this is  that way we do here on the island of madeira

I think your translator is not working well???
It doesn't make sense!!!!!
Sorry:-(

I give him kudos for trying to share with all of us :)

i think he is saying.. 

old method of planting fig cutting... old tradition. in a square cloth about 50cm x 50cm, add soil in the middle with mixture of wheat, dried chicken/cow/pork urine. wound the bottom of the cutting about 5cm and put it in the mixture and tied the cloth with "greyhound". make a hold in the ground, plant it in the ground. cover with soil and water twice a day. every week, add more dried urine mix to the tree. when water with dish soap once a month. when the tree is big, top dress it with sulfur. this is the way they do it in madeira island. 

now.. i have no idea what he mean by "greyhound". 

edit: this is interesting. since urine is source of nitrogen, i assume it is being used as fertilizer. not sure what dish soap and sulfur is being used for.

edit: thanks gluglo. i enjoyed reading this. this is interesting. different from what most of us do, but i'm sure it worked in madeira. i know portugal has many wonderful figs. 

Gluglo, I understand the small English barrier. I have a large Portuguese barrier. Thanks for sharing Can you explain greyhound? Thanks for sharing your
tradition with us.

greyhound = cutting

Ewwww.. Urine? Like dried pee-pee?? *Gagging*. Chicken/cow/rabbit poo is fine. But dried pee-whoah. I will try it! A bit extreme for a girly woman, but what the heck! I live in FarmVille Idaho, tons of dairy cows here, and I will have chickens to raise this year so I have lots of poo-poo. But urine? How do you get that? Do you put a diaper on them and squeeze the pee out?

Spring will be interesting...

-Jennifer

Nelson, can you translate....

Guglio, manda p mim em Portugues (em PM), q eu traduzo . Esse Google fez sua linguagem ficar totalmente maluca..onde ja se viu xixi de galinha? 

He is really trying to express his method. Sounds from the broken translation that a piece of cloth is used like a sac perhaps to protect from crawling bugs?  that cloth is filled with manure  putting the cutting in the middle and tieing the bag  and  is burried in the 'field of wheet',  water twice, (perhaps it is hot there?)   I asked him to send me the source words, so I can translate for you all.

Kudos for him! Viva Madeira!

That's positive he is trying.

Thanks for sharing your experiences, Francisco.

I read once in a book by Jerry Baker that dish soap softens the soil, and cleans the leaves of pollution, but he was referring to in ground plants.

using dish soap to manage my gnat larvae.. cannot say 100% garanteed, but I have to keep on trying.

Jennifer. I am still cracking up over your post #8. You made me get an image of a cow wearing a diaper - LOL! I laughed til I had tears coming out. I grew up around farms, animals, & all that so it might be a little extra funny to me.

Hears how you really get pee from a cow. Go out to the cow pasture, poor a can of peas on the ground. When a cow comes over to take a pea, just have your bucket ready - Ba-da-boom! Or you put on one of those rubber gloves that extends all the way up to your shoulder.......Oh wait....... that might have been for a different procedure involving cows. Oh well...........maybe you just have to grow up around it to get farm humor ;-) .


This is for you Jennifer!

Dish soap is used in organic gardening for pest control - if I remember right!

Let's get scatological: Chickens urinate in the sense that the white stuff is uric acid.

I actually can translate.

He meant to say: I am selling "black madeira" fig on ebay. Go buy now. I make random post to act like I contribute but really just reminding you that I sell "black madeira" fig on ebay. You all should buy. I live on Madeira Island

Good job slingha I agree I dont know the guy and im not bad mouthing him/her but I have to agree.

In Mexico they use urine which makes plants thrive.  I read that somewhere on garden web.  Actually urine is everywhere there are 4 legged creatures.  We just don't like to think about it, but evidently it has a purpose!

I love hearing about the old ways!  If it aint broke, don't fix it!

Looking forward to a better translation!

Love the thread!  Thanks for sharing!

Suzi

I use urine for fertilizer. Water:Urine (15-20:1), put it in a 5 gallon bucket with a small hole drilled into the bottom. It releases the water over 1-2 hours period. As long as you don't have high salt diet/pharmaceuticals in your system urine is good stuff. Alternative, you can just pee directly on a compost pile or wood chips away from the immediate root zone of plants. 

How do you harvest your urine? You ever wonder why cab drivers like "Sunny D" so much?
 

A rarefruit grower in Ghana (Africa) wrote a few years ago about how locals used human urine to fertilize plants and the results were very favorable.  The surprising thing about his discussion was that it was best if urine was cured in bottles left in the sun (don't recall exactly, but maybe about a week).  I did some searching at the time and found that composition does change over time.  I also found that somewhere in Germany they were using specially-designed toilets that separated #1 and #2 and urine was directed to irrigation supply lines.

I don't think it is appropriate to criticize gluglo/Francisco for his posts.  Yes, he is selling cuttings but he made no mention of that here in this post but is offering information about some old-time methods used in Madeira.  My wife gives this advice which I try to follow: "if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything".  We'd have fewer conflicts if we would all listen to my wife! :)

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Originally Posted by ohjustaguy
I use urine for fertilizer. Water:Urine (15-20:1), put it in a 5 gallon bucket with a small hole drilled into the bottom. It releases the water over 1-2 hours period. As long as you don't have high salt diet/pharmaceuticals in your system urine is good stuff. Alternative, you can just pee directly on a compost pile or wood chips away from the immediate root zone of plants. 

How do you harvest your urine? You ever wonder why cab drivers like "Sunny D" so much?
 



Seriously guys?!..Why not pee first, then drop a deuce right in the root zone?! It's organic and the neighbors will finally stop coming over!




God is good. :)

The pee actually does work, I don't recommend it but you can as it has a high urea content, it also can work for black spot and mildew on roses, again I don't recommend it as it strong and I think most of us have seen what dog pee does to a lawn or plant.

I am guessing he is talking about using composted chicken manure as the fresh one would be too hot I am thinking unless all the watering leeches it out?  

I am curious if you can put up some pictures for us to see the process Francisco, it really does seem like an interesting method.

I once watched some 'survival' Discovery TV-channel program about 'pee'.

During any disaster/calamity, one can use (family) urine as a fertilizer to grow more veggie food.
[Very rich in the 'N' (nitogen) part of a fertilizer NPK ratio - gererally recommended as an ideal 3:2:1]

If lost in some hot-desert or open-sea (no good water), one can extend his life by
1-3 more days by drinking (own) urine while still fresh and sterile - more of so, kidneys may fail...

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