saxonfig
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Posted 1325955472
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I realized there wasn't a whole lot posted about some of mario's great Italian figs. I hope you don't mind me starting this thread on the Salce Mario.
I'm sure you made reference to this one in one of your posts. I think it was something like 'this one was so much better than other figs that the other figs where used to feed the hogs'. Pretty sure it was something like that. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that Mario.
Anyway, I wanted to post a couple of pictures of this one so others can start getting a better idea of what it's like. Mario, please add any info you feel is pertinent.
These two pics are of the tree in Mario's greenhouse:
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saxonfig
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Posted 1325956380
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Here are a few additional pics of this one. These pictures are from the immature tree that I have:
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saxonfig
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Posted 1325956741
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Here are a couple of closeups of one of the fruit that seemed to be a little deformed. Sort of a double flower I guess:
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gorgi
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Posted 1325987246
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I like people pushing [E: white] figs...
saxonfig
1258080612
Posted 1325987594
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Thank you George.
Edit: I like people to be informed ;) .
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possum_trot
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Posted 1326080180
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Thanks, Bill. I'm glad for this info and the pix. I wil be starting some of these cuttings and it is fun to know a little more about them.
saxonfig
1258080612
Posted 1326085533
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You're welcome Susan. I look forward to this one producing again next season (if all goes according to plan). With a little TLC maybe it will produce larger figs and more of them :-) .
Fig Well An d Prosper!
possum_trot
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Posted 1326088272
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Bill, do you know if this tree is cold hardy at all?
saxonfig
1258080612
Posted 1326088878
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Well, here's the scoop on that:The person this one comes from originally (mario), grows it outside here in KY. It tends to die back to the ground in winter but rebounds to produce fruit on the new growth. He also grows it in his unheated greenhouse and it doesn't die back at all in there.
So, not cold hardy but with a little effort will produce well in time.
Mine is potted and I have it stored under a pile of mulch at this time. I'll uncover it along about late March pot it up, and set the bottom of the pot below the soil line in my garden.
Fig Well An d Prosper!
mario
1245009831
Posted 1326162240
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This is not just a white fig. It is the most tastiest fig you will ever eat. All other figs don't hold a candle to this one. This fig was considered a delicacy when i was a boy and my dad would pick it so we could eat it fresh. All other figs were picked and fed to the pigs. Salce is the only name i know for it, and it is in dialect. This fig is becoming rare even in my hometown. I would like to see as many people as possible grow this fig. This year i have given Bill all my cuttings in the hope that they will get to as many people as possible.
saramc
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Posted 1326165795
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Mario I simply cannot wait to meet up with you this year.
saxonfig
1258080612
Posted 1326171235
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I'm glad you added those comments Mario. Helps to clarify some more on what this fig is like.
Those cuttings are going to be all over the country very soon. It will be nice to hear back from folks in a couple of years to see how this fig does in different parts of the country. I have a feeling it would do very well out in SoCo.
Fig Well An d Prosper!
paully22
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Posted 1326209544
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Wow, another gem. Good to know it is in North America. Thanks for sharing this fig info. Hope Martin takes note on this WHITE fig quality.
bullet08
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Posted 1338471915
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can someone tell little more about this fig? i have heard this is very good fig. anyone had chance to taste it? is it figgy? berry taste? i'm looking forward to finding more about this fig.
pete
BronxFigs
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Posted 1338472390
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Mario....re: the name "Salce "....can you translate the name, or, give us an idea what the name means?
bullet08
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Posted 1338488888
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franks,
i searched "salce " in italian dictionary, but i'm not finding any specific match. only thing i found "salce " is in polish dictionary saying this means "room of". maybe "salce " is some sort of informal expression?
pete
AaronT
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Posted 1338489634
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Mario did say it was dialect. Many regions in Italy have their own dialect and Sicilian is even considered an entirely seperate language. I know a few terms, but this isn't one I am familiar with.
FMD
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Posted 1338493888
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Salce is a relatively common surname in Puglia.Frank North Florida Figs
mario
1245009831
Posted 1338508612
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Salice in Italian means willow but salce is a dialect of my hometown. It doesn't mean nothing its just a name the old people give this fig. All figs that come from my hometown are only known in dialect, because when i was a boy that is all that we spoke. When i got to 1st grade in school that is when i started to learn how to speak the real Italian. I have different variety of figs but i only know them by dialect names. Last year i identified 2 one was a triana calabrese and the other was paradiso nero. I have probably eaten more figs than any man alive, but nothing tastes as good as salce ,that is why i wanted to spread this fig all over the USA. A lot of people get on here and name figs whatever they want but i would like to keep the figs to their true origins and name them what they should be named not Mario this and Mario that.
noss
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Posted 1338527267
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Hello Mario,
saxonfig
1258080612
Posted 1338530463
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Hey noss.
I must agree with you and I also vouch for Mario in that he certainly is a genuine fig man. He's got fig tastes that go all the way back to the "old country" :) ! It was a real pleasure to visit his place last season. He's growing a little piece Italy right here in KY ;) .
The only fig of his that I can speak for on taste is the Paradiso Nero. It was a really good fig that seemed to have a hint of grape flavor to my palate anyway. Looking forward to tasting that one again in the near future.
Hey Mario. How are you bud?
Is it Triana Calabrese or TrianO ? I've been spelling it Triano so please correct me here if I've been misspelling it.
By the way, the T. Calabrese is proving to be one of the most vigorous growers out of the half dozen varieties I got from you. I'm privileged to have rec'd all of them from you.
Also, I grafted some of those persimmons onto some local wild persimmon. So far, most of them are putting on some growth. I'll keep you posted on how they do over the rest of the summer.
Fig Well An d Prosper!
paully22
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Posted 1338534877
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Bill, have you heard of the Atrina fig. I know there is an Adrina fig describe in Adriano's web site. Herman2 have id that as very similar to Kadota/Texas White Everbearing. The only Trina fig that I have come across is White Triana from J. Morle. It would interesting to know more of both Atrina and Trina Calabrese as well as Paradiso Nero. Hope this season Mario can post some pic's of Paradiso Nero and Triana Calabrese.
rcantor
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Posted 1338535082
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So do you have a waiting list for Salce cuttings? Or want to trade or sell small plants? :)
BronxFigs
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Posted 1338537403
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Thank-you Mario...
BronxFigs
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Posted 1338537530
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mario
1245009831
Posted 1338595915
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Bill i didn't spell the name correctly it should be troiano calabrese ,you should be able to see a picture of it on http://www.ficuscarica. Noss this fig has what i would call a honey peachy taste real sweet and when it's ripe it oozes honey drops on the bottom. I am not good at giving descriptions but like i said this is my favorite. I wish every fig grower had one but i am not into shipping as i don't have the time . Most of the time i work out of town and only come home on weekends. Frank those were hard times when i was a boy in the old country, but they were also the happiest times of my life. I remember picking figs by the bucket and trowing them over the fence for the pigs to eat, but when the salce was ripe and the honey started coming out the bottom and they started to crack i would climb the tree and sit on a big branch and eat until i was ready to bust. Sorry about all the rambling but i wish everyone on this site could climb on a big fig tree and eat all they could.
saxonfig
1258080612
Posted 1338604016
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Thanks for the clarification Mario.
Paully,
I've not heard of the Atrina fig. I'm trying to establish White Triana in my collection. Does make one wonder how many of these names are actually the same fig. As Mario and others have mentioned, different Italian areas have different dialects. The same fig could have very many names throughout a given region.
As for me, I will accept the names of these that Mario has shared with us. These come direct from the old country so I think this is the least we could do in honor of their origins.
In the end, the names don't mean all that much as long as we enjoy the fruits they provide us :-).
Mario, please do try to get some more pictures of the ripe fruits this season. I know you're a busy guy but we would all appreciate the pics very much. Maybe I'll be able to help with that if I'm able to visit you this year when the figs are at their peak ripeness :-). Please keep me posted on when that time might be. I'm guessing that this could come earlier this year because of the unusually warm spring we've had.
Fig Well An d Prosper!
saramc
1301867088
Posted 1338604312
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Hey Mario and Bill! Just wanted to say a quick hello. Looking forward to the meet-n-greet-n-eat at some point this year. And of course, some plant swapping!
mario
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Posted 1338656861
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Bill , i have already eaten a few figs this week .This year for the first time i should have two crops , i believe this year we should get together a little sooner than we did last year . I should have a bunch of salce figs this year as my outside trees never died back and the ones in the greenhouse are touching the ceiling, and putting out a bunch of figs.Sara i still got your fig tree it is growing like crazy and needs to go in a bigger pot.
Womack
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Posted 1338677406
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This variety sounds very interesting to me. I wonder if it might handle the zone7b winter in ground well. I am in northwest Georgia.
mario
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Posted 1338684910
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Womack i come from the Molise region it used to be Abruzzi Molise until the region was split up. These figs ought to do well in ground in Georgia. Molise is a mountainous region and we used to get light snow and light frost every year and they never died. If you ever come to Kentucky come and see me and i will give you all the cuttings you want.
saxonfig
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Posted 1338687437
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Mario,
I've lived in KY for a total of about 20 years and this past winter was the warmest and shortest KY winter I've ever experienced. It would be nice to get a couple more in a row like it. Our fig trees would get to put on some nice, uninterrupted, growth with a couple more winters like that :) .
It's good to know that your outside trees didn't experience any die back. Same thing with the few in ground trees of mine. If I hadn't grafted onto so many of mine I'm sure I would have gotten a lot more brebas. As it is, it looks like I will get to enjoy a few main crop fruits anyway. A couple of these are some unknowns fruiting for the first time. So it will be nice to finally see the fruits. Hopefully I'll get them ID'd with a little help from folks here on the forum.
Please keep me posted on when might be the best time to come up this year. Send me a PM or email.
So far it's been a great year for fig trees in KY. It sounds like your trees are showing their appreciation for that.
Fig Well An d Prosper!
noss
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Posted 1338709951
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Thanks, Mario, and I also wish everyone could climb a large fig tree and stuff themselves with figs until they couldn't hold any more. As far as I'm concerned, you can ramble on about figs all you want. The more, the better. ;)
The Salce fig sounds lushious. I think you did a fine job of describing the flavor.
Womack
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Posted 1338763267
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Mario,
mario
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Posted 1338771779
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Womack, i live 2 hrs north of Nashville. This invite is extended to any fig nut that comes by here, as long as figs are for personal use and not for resale.
Figfinatic
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Posted 1338791451
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I love your good story about growing up with this fig. Hope I can get on your list for trade of any cuttings at end of season. I wonder how many fig trees I'll end up with. Too many good descriptions on this forum.
Womack
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Posted 1338859772
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Mario,
mario
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Posted 1338860716
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Womack,any time. i will get you some cuttings, i might even pull a rooted one out of the ground. So no rush. whenever you happen to be up here give me a week notice and come on up.
slingha
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Posted 1343426237
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Can someone please post some photos of salce leaves?
mario
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slingha
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paully22
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Posted 1343493528
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The leaves do look different from Mario's Salce fig.
slingha
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Posted 1343494976
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Pauly,salce fig amongst them, but I also don't think that they are all the same fig.
BLB
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Posted 1343497760
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I agree no matches there. Of course I am terrible at fig id. Hey Herman!!
dkirtexas
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Posted 1343499649
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I went to the web site( http://www.ficuscarica.com) WOW!! How many different types are there? How many cross reference to our "Domestic" figs.
mario
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Posted 1343512342
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There is no salce there i can't identify them unless you get a fig and a leaf and put them next to each other. You should have gotten at least 3 or 4 .different kind of figs which anybody would love to have in their collection.
slingha
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Posted 1343524100
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Mario,
musillid
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Posted 1343922141
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Salce salice . It means "willow" and might refer to the name of a place where the fig was found or grown.
Figfinatic
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Posted 1344008646
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Thanks for sharing the joy Mario. Got the cuttings and can't wait to get them going. Some were starting to root in the bag already.
SoniSoni
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Posted 1384125455
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It has been nearly 2 years since this thread was started in Jan 2012. Will anyone have Salce cuttings they could share, trade or sell me?
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