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Maybe OT - New California Groundwater Law

Today California governor Jerry Brown signed new groundwater legislation into law.  http://www.sacbee.com/2014/09/15/6706392/california-poised-to-restrict.html

For decades many areas of California have been depleting groundwater aquifers.  In some areas, this has been a tremendously serious problem and resulted in land even subsiding 1' or even 3' in one year!  During a recent visit to Wolfskill when I met up with Jon and Dennis I talked to a well service company that was looking for particular farm adjoining Wolfskill.  I asked him if he was busy lowering pumps and he replied "Yes, everybody's chasing water!".  This year is particularly bad due to the extended drought and increased reliance on groundwater to supply crops with needed water.

Changes will not take place immediately but I expect we'll see some big changes in the next decade or so in some farming areas of California, including areas around the Madera-Fresno fig growing country.

Here is a good article from the Economist about the situation, which if I could sum it up, states that mismanaged, under priced water is being over used by farmers to grow water intensive crops. 

http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21596955-drought-forcing-westerners-consider-wasting-less-water-drying-west

I started the thread to discuss new groundwater legislation and the Economist's article really isn't related to that.  However, I seriously doubt the "by one account" reference to agriculture representing only 2% of the economic activity in the state.  Related industries need to be also considered as mentioned in this 2008 report: http://ucanr.edu/News/?uid=1063&ds=191

Many of the water prices are not negotiable.  The state and federal projects were established to encourage agricultural production at a time when the state's population was much smaller and environmental regulations less strict or non-existent.  In the cases of farmers with riparian rights which date pre-1914 such as myself, these rights are senior to all other rights.  Proposing the taking away of such rights would be unconstitutional and would be akin to telling homeowners that suddenly portions of their homes were going to be given to others who were more entitled to their property.

In any event, groundwater use will change significantly in some areas of California.  Fewer acres of some crops will be grown and prices will likely increase, maybe even for figs.

Harvey I feel for you. This can mean anything right?  Perhaps like some farmers, you too will get a check from the governament not to grow food (corn, cotton, etc...) did you know our taxes are paying some Brazilians and American Farmers in Brazil whose main crop was cotton?  It is unreal, paying farmers here and abroad not to grow, so that your T shirt or linnens can cost more. 
 I am not making this up... here is a NPR  article
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/01/26/131192182/cotton

what is not said is that most of the cotton growers in Brazil, are indeed American companies that deforest the Amazon are to grow cattle for McDonald and cotton... sneaky riches.

Back to your topic, California fruits and vegetables feeds the country and much is sent overseas... without water, what will happen? Will import from the American Riches who operate their farms in Uruguai, Chile and whereelse?

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Thanks for the info. I have a two acre pond on one of my properties that's for sale here in TX. The pond is always full, even in August.
Perhaps I'll find a buyer now.

Thanks for the link, Grasa.

A bit of clarification.  I don't expect the new groundwater regulation to have any direct affect on me.  Perhaps I'll need to install a meter on my small domestic well to prove I'm exempt.  My crops are irrigated from riparian (river) sources. 

Also, to the best of my recollection, no farmer in the U.S. has been paid not to produce a crop since the 1980s when there was the PIK program, etc. during a time when there were large surpluses of stable commodities.  For quite a few years commodity prices have been high and some small floor level subsidies have been paid to farmers, including myself.  I think it's pretty silly for the USDA to be doing so, but they keep us under these contracts which we renew each year to remain eligible if commodity prices ever plummet again.  The fundamental justification for such programs is to ensure survival of a agricultural sector to provide for the needs of the U.S. population.  Last year I was paid about $35/acre for my base acreage (historical wheat and corn acreage).  Not enough to get excited about and I have to drive to Sacramento, sign contracts, etc. and agree to conservation requirements and so forth.  Maybe 15 years ago I received a larger subsidy when I was growing corn or wheat and prices were low.  I am not very familiar with cotton prices in recent years so I can't really comment on the subsidy levels.  Subsidy levels are set to provide help when prices are below the cost of production.

As you say, California agriculture feeds much of the nation.

I don't say all of agriculture in California are what I'd call fair players in water use.  In the mid-1980s regulations were passed so that low cost federal water projects only went to farmers of relatively modest size, limiting acreage to 640 acres per farmer at the subsidized rates.  While 640 acres may seem like a lot of land to many people (1 square mile), it is of a size that is commonly needed to be an economic unit for many commodities because of the high cost of equipment, etc.  Who can justify $500,000 of equipment for 100 acres of cotton?  Anyways, some large landholders sold off land during the transition period to allow this acreage to continue to receive the low cost federal water.  While this could be seen as a good opportunity to allow small and medium size farmers to become established (land had to be sold at non-irrigated land prices), it was greatly abused.  Through my prior employment I know of large farms that arranged for non-farmer friends to buy land at the non-irrigated prices with the financial assistance of the larger farmer.  In turn, the new landowner leased the land to the large farmer and granted the large farmer the option to purchase the land 10 years later at a pre-determined high price (but still below the value of irrigated farmland).  This was entirely legal but obviously not within the spirit of the legislation.  The legislation hurt some large landowners and benefited other crafty landowners.  I would tend to say that government is probably better at creating problems than fixing them.

One of the largest (if not the largest) farmers in California is Paramount Farms with 72,000 acres, the last I heard.  Most people are familiar with their brands of PomWonderful and the Cuties citrus and Wonderful pistachios, almonds, etc.  Paramount Farms is part of Stewart and Lynda Resnick's Roll Corporation, a $3 billion entity with a history in bottled water, FTD Floral, Franklin Mint, etc.  The same government that is now trying to fix water problems in California crafted regulations that allow Paramount Farms to use government project water to store in aquifers and then they later pump it out and sell it during shortage years at much higher prices.  These are the type of companies that should be cut off from any project water, in my opinion.  In the meantime, many small and medium-sized farmers are struggling or even going out of business because of a lack of water to irrigate their crops.  Partly because of drought but also because of a growing population, lack of new water storage facilities, and environmental priorities.  In some instances, large quantities of stored water flowed out to sea this past winter as part of some very silly experiments by the same agencies that will oversee the new laws to help preserve our aquifers.  And then, the same governor that signed this legislation has been pushing for a $67 billion twin tunnel project to divert water around the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta while insisting it won't harm the environmental interests of the Delta.  It appears these efforts will likely be defeated as opponents clearly point out that the project would provide no new water, would harm wildlife, and would be a huge cost to taxpayers and water users.  I think it's safe to say that I don't have much faith in our government's ability to fix the water problems here.

Sas, if you can find a way to transport your water in a cost-effective manner, I believe Sue would be a ready buyer! :)

You betcha Harvey. My well has been dry for a year and was drilled in such a manner that it can't be deepened, or so they say. Haven't got a second opinion on that yet. New well, looking at $30-40K...umm, I truck water in at $135/mo so it's not cost effective in these drought years to deal with a new deeper well for 'free' water, sigh.

On another note, I can speak to the costs of cotton. I've pretty much quit quilting, at least buying new fabric because the costs are out-of-hand. You are looking at $11-13 per yard of fabric. The average quilt, full/queen, uses at least 8-10 yards. I was griping when it was $7-8/yd. Now I garden and paint in watercolors. ;-)

Sue

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Sorry to hear about your well Sue. My city water bill is usually around $120 per month but could go as high as $185 during the summer months.
It is three times more expensive than my gas bill.


I pay about $3,000 year to have river seepage pumped back into the river so that I don't have to live in a boat.  In 1972 our family lost our house with the levee broke.  Water - too much for some, too little for others!

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This is scary. Glad you're still with us Harvey.

Thanks, Sas.  I was just a teenager and it took over a day for the water to reach our house.  Still, it was a devastating flood, taking place on June 21st when dad had pretty much sunk all of his money into the year's crops and got nothing in return.  We were blessed with some very good farming years for the next few years after that and recovered well.  God is great!  Some people had much scarier escapes.  How about the those on vacation sleeping on yachts tied up to docks with some of their teenagers sleeping right on the dock....the docks near the levee break were swept through in the middle of the night and they just held on for dear life without a clue as to what was going on.  Others who lived nearby had to wade out of their homes in water 3-4' deep in darkness.  My uncles had a farm near the break and had a combine which they drove out through deep water up the driveway leading up the levee.  Crazy.

Harvey, 
This is a very valuable and tutorial thread. 
Thanks for starting it.
So, where are we going with this drought? How long we will last like this?...is de-salination a doable task for California, is it happening for near future? Ugh...my head hearts.

Aaron, I cannot predict the weather, that's for sure.  The latest I read is that the chance of an El Nino weather pattern (which would bring higher rainfall) has decreased from 80% to 65%.  Generally, they're predicting rainfall in late fall and early winter.  Much of our water woes are longer term in nature due to infrastructure and policies/regulations.  From what I've read, the cost of desalination is extremely high but market prices of water reached about the $2,000/acre foot estimated for the cost mentioned in this article about a new desalination plant in San Diego: http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_25859513/nations-largest-ocean-desalination-plant-goes-up-near

According to this article, a desalination plant in Monterey was taken off-line in 1991 due to costing about $3,000/acre foot: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Desalination-plants-a-pricey-option-if-drought-5239096.php

Environmentalists aren't too warm on the idea of desalination either.

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