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Mediterranean Unknown Figs Varieties In Indonesia

Salam ,

I have  some  mediterranean figs that source from Arabic and Jews communities who are living in my country. ( but They dont know what figs common name /Variety ). The Figs  have been growing in Indonesia since 1997.

If Any one in this forum knows what the varieties figs name are or Any similarity with any your Mediterranean figs collection at home..?

Figs  local name :
1. Green Yordan
2. Purple Yordan
3. Red Israel
4. Red Libya (the leaf looks as same as Brown Turkey Variety )

Thanks and Best regards
Zaitun

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Hello Zaitun, I see you pull most of your leaves off the lower parts of branches. What is the reason? It sure does expose the figs, they stand out.



luke

#3 looks the best to my eye. #2 looks like a variety that was discovered here called Mega Celeste. http://figs4fun.com/Thumbnail_Mega_Celeste.html
Some photos of the figs cut open will really help give a better idea of what they might be.

@Luke ,
I am sorry if the Pic was not clear  since i took some pics  on  Feb 2012.
Attached the Figs Pics. of Red Libya and Red Israel that I have.- Thanks

@Brent ,
Thank you for your info.

Salam
Zaitun

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Zaitun, I am wondering if in Indonesia your figs drop leaves and go dormant. What are the lowest temperatures in the winter? 
your figs look good.

In Malaysia, the figs dropped their leaves in Dec but usually not completely. Very quickly the figs would start to have new leaves. Generally I would say much depends on where one is located. In the big cities, micro climate can make a huge difference compared to growing them in the highlands. Figs thrive very well and cuttings start can produce within the year.

Zaitun, you are doing great. Try growing LSU varieties as I think they will do well in your zone.

Those look delicious.  Great pictures.  

Salam,
@Stefpix ,@ Figfinatic , Thank you
In Indonesia , We dont have winter here , the average local area temperature 25-27 C , the Highest Temp. this month is  : 36 C ( in My Area, Jakarta).
We can harvest figs twice a year , but the challenge are  high humidity and rainfall volume   during rainy season on Dec-March  , its usually impact  figs varieties who are having big  eyes ( It could be Cracking and Sour eg.  Grise Saint Jean and Purple Yordan ) .

This our climate info : http://www.wordtravels.com/Cities/Indonesia/Jakarta/Climate

@Paully , Thanks , Yes you're right , I would like to try LSU but I am still awaiting  " Santa "  to send /trade  LSU cutting for me...( Hope.Com). Perhaps ,Indonesia and Malaysia climate is not much difference .

I am still seeking the common figs name/variety  of those Mediterranean figs if some one in this forum already had it at home.  Since I found the information link about Med. Figs  but no photo detail on it.

http://ressources.ciheam.org/om/pdf/c13/96605643.pdf

Thanks and Best regards
Zaitun









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Zaitun,

Your figs are great.Some resemble our own varieties. We have full Mediterranean climate and some of the brebas and figs cultivated in Portugal do have similar fruit in the Mediterranean countries, May I suggest you to look at the 'Ripening Order' topic in this forum and compare your unknown figs with the pictures I have sent recently as the figs become ripe.
The names are ours and certainly different from the ones you have mentioned. The fig pictures may eventually give you some indications.
I understand that back in time there were Portuguese fig varieties in the Flores islands. There may be some left?!

Francisco

Fransisco Thank You , Its really nice figs Pic,
If there is some picture of your  Figs leaf , it  would be very helpful to match them with mine.

Salam ,

Attached was the picture of hard pruning of Green Jordan fig on July.

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Zaitun - 

that is good to hear. so it means your figs bear fruit without dormant / chill period?

I live in an apt and I was thinking of overwintering some in 1 or 2 gallon pots and keeping them at about 1 /1.2 m 3 - 4 ft high in a southern window in the winter. I have a small LSU purple that is less hardy than others. 

Dominick, 
maybe his window was dark. I have been growing Ficus benghalensis in pots and it is doing great indoors in the winter. I also have a shelf with lights and some 40 W CFL bulbs. I would cut it back a lot as I do with my Habanero peppers I started from seed 2 years ago.  

I can also leave some on the roof, like the Hardy Chicago and mulch them. the roof is aluminum and there is a wall on the roof that would shield from the north wind and eastern exposure with the plants facing south. 

Anyway there is a hydroponic store in Flushing and they had a Fig in hydroton that never goes dormant and they grow it in the window. They used to put it outside in the summer but once it got stolen. It gets large for the pot  and they cut it back and start new plants. They have been doing that for years. Their store front is facing south. They also had a coffee plant inside the store that was bearing without any need of supplemental light. 

Anyway I have really good light in the winter as I have 2 windows that have southern exposure, the sun is lower on the horizon and penetrates the room well. the Tree of Heaven outside has no leaves and sometimes the light can be too strong.


If you see my Ficus benghalensis it is not leggy. it has a thick trunk. I have grown it from seed about 3 years ago. It is by the window in the winter. So my Habanero peppers, I overwintered in my kitchen. they are short and bushy because the plant had been chopped down by squirrels in April. The staircase leading to the roof is heated. Anyway that hydroponic store I am happy is there. They are the only place where I can find KLN and hydroton for a decent price. They have supplies for gardening that you can not find elsewhere in NYC. i do not see anything fishy about it. With what is happening in NYC sometimes cops can be the fishy ones... The times I needed cops I had really bad experiences in NYC - they did not want to fill paperwork. Once I was assaulted by a group of guys for no reason. the NYPD for the 94th pct was inefficient, unsupportive and unprofessional. I pressed charges against my attackers. the DA office was great but I have seen to much. I know some good cops here but the overall impression is that they are trigger happy, the miss targets, use excessive force, fill quotas with minor infractions etc etc. I know they are underpaid and trained poorly. But i grew up in Italy where cops are trained to not shoot or shoot to incapacitate rather to kill. In Milan I had been mugged with a knife at my throat at midnight. The cops were great. They arrested the guys at 4 am and I got my wallet and cell phone back at 5 or 6 am. I had a break in in Brooklyn, I was lucky i had renter's insurance. the NYPD 90th pct did not want to bother with the paperwork.

Stefano ,

Its great Pics and they looks very healthy although live in small pot, thank you for sharing. I have 2-3 big trees of Jordan Fig you may PM me if you are interested to it.

But I really dont know whether it would be Dormant or not , if you grow them in your location.  Since we dont have winter in my country.

Saalam ,
Zaitun

Zaitun, is Jordan Fig Ficus sycomorus? I grow tropical figs like Ficus virens (curtain fig from thailand), Ficus religiosa, also mexican banyans (Ficus crocata, Ficus obtusifolia, Ficus cotinifolia and Ficus maxima - the first 3 are of the Urostigma subgenus so they are strangler figs and in the wild they start growing on a host tree branch, the last one is of the subgenus Pharmacosycea and is a free standing tree). I have fresh seeds if you are interested. I think they are salt resistant as I saw them growing in the mangroves and near the ocean 

Stefano ,

Jordan;s Figs is Common Figs which not need pollination and Figs wasp to produce fruit.
its not as same as Sycamorus  and others figs you mentioned below.  They are require pollination of Figs wasp to produce edible figs , unfortunately we dont have figs wasp in Indonesia.

Here is the ling of :  Ficus Species and Fig Wasp types to help them producing fruit.

http://www.figweb.org/Fig_wasps/index.htm



Salam and Thanks
Zaitun

The green Jordanian fig looks like one called Khdeiri, 
The Red Israel shares similarity with Khurtmani, specially the long pointed leaves.

Hi  Bass ,
TQ for your expert advice , I am really appreciate it
How about "Purple Yordan" (local name)  which Brent told me it looks similar with " Mega Celeste" 
Perhaps , you also know  what  it's native  figs name in mediterranean .

Salam

Zaitun

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I can see why they mentioned Mega Celeste which was an unknown fig... it does  share some similarities. Not sure what they call this fig in Jordan. Perhaps "Tin Shiblawi"... as  it is called in some other Middle eastern countries.

Funny you say that- Now that I look at them, the leaves in the above pics do look like my Shiblawi from you.  

Bass ,

Tq for your valuable information.

Salam.
Zaitun

Wow good to see my fellow Southeast Asian neighbours growing figs successfully! I'm from Singapore and recently got hold of 4 fig cuttings (2 black genoa and 2 preston prolific). Gardening is a new interest for me and while living in Australia, figs were widely available when in season. Sadly when I'm back here, they're scarce. 

So I decided to do the next best thing: grow them myself. The cuttings I got are cultivars from Australia and 2 of the cuttings have taken root in soil. I was worried that they won't grow here but seeing this post has given me hope.

Your figs look great Zaitun, and I hope in time to come, I'll be able to have some like yours. 

Hello Falterego ,

Tq.
I am glad to know & have a  close neighbors from Singapore.
well come TO f4f ...., I am also still newbie here.....

Salam
Zaitun



please help me, this type of brown turkey fig or red libya?

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