My 2011 cuttings progress ....

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TucsonKen

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Posted 1302795352	Reply with quote #51

Yes, it's nice to track your cuttings' progress. Thanks for keeping us posted, and good luck figuring out how to root Hardy Chicago. __________________ Ken Tucson, Arizona Zone 8b

satellitehead

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Posted 1302802197	Reply with quote #52

Welp, no leaf droop after spendign a night repotted in bins. I guess that's high potential for 6 more trees to make it. @Ken, I still have a log of HC I picked up from a figfriend in KY which hasn't gone south, along with two other pieces that look OK. I just have two cuttings in particular that looked promising, but started looking as if they may be taking a dive the last day or two (droopy leaves, no root growth, etc.) It could just be that they put on too much up top before putting anything on down below to support them. I'm still amazed that some of these cuttings can literally put out a good 4"-5" of growth (via a shoot) while only having little hairs for roots, and sometimes nearly no roots at all. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

satellitehead

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Posted 1302914160	Reply with quote #53

Ok, here is a Sal Corleone I acquired this year. It's going crazy. It doesn't have a ton of roots, so I am not really sure how in the heck it's sustaining all of this growth. There is a cluster as thick as a pencil coming out of a drain hole, but they're stumpy and short. Here's a pic of the growth. Attached Images salc-04152011.jpg (227.18 KB, 449 views) __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

eun97

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Posted 1303012183	Reply with quote #54

What size pot are you using when you are potting up from the little bags you are using? I am a little torn about whether to use a smaller pot first then going to a bigger one (to try and cut down on losing it since i've had trouble with overwatering etc at times). As an aside, I tried using small snack size ziploc bags and trimmed the side and the other side with the drainage holes and it's been pretty good. Definitely like the nice bags you and Jon and the others are using but my family would think I'm even more bonkers than I am now about the whole fig craze:). __________________ Eun Zone 7b

satellitehead

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Posted 1303058423	Reply with quote #55

@Eun, I am jumping straight from these baggies to a 1-gallon (about 8"tall with a 6.5" mouth or something). -------------- UPDATE 4/17 (35 days after initially bagging with no roots) I probably won't snap off any more pics of the cuttings in bins, since not much spectacular is happening right now, I'll just continue posting pics of stuff as I'm repotting it, unless something extraordinary happens with the bagged stuff. The strongest cuttings our of the bunch have burst our with top growth and root growth while half of the others are just shuffling along. I STILL have not had to water anything yet, and the moisture level is finally about where I would want it. New roots are coming out white and staying white, instead of rusting out. I found something to warn folks about when using this method. It seems to be fairly important NOT to let the end of the cutting get anywhere near the drain hole of the baggie. If it does, I found two things can or will happen: 1) the roots leaving the stick will dry, clump together and harden, 2) Mold will instantly start feeding on them! It's not a good situation. I repotted 14 cuttings today. Some (below) may not look like they were ready.... Like the Sal Corleone .... but had so much top growth and enough bottom growth that I believed there was a good root base. I guess we will see. Tally: Started with 66, repotted 21 so far, 45 still rooting. I am seeing a droopy leaf on one of the ones I repotted out of worry (Ukn #R [1] below). It has been up and down lately, didn't have a ton of roots, but I was worried about it. It's either transplant shock, the fact I had to use really cold soil, or it was on its way out. We shall see. I am hoping Salem Dark and Brooklyn Dark come through. I think I only received one cutting of each (need to dig through the others to verify). Anyway, pics are worth a thousand words.... Atreano Inline image Brooklyn Dark Inline image Black Yugoslavian (1) Inline image Black Yugoslavian (2) Inline image Col de Dame UCD Inline image Hative D'Argentile UCD (1) Inline image Hative D'Argentile UCD (2) Inline image Morley (1) Inline image Morley (2) Inline image Sal Corleone (1) Inline image Sal Corleone (2) Inline image Salem Dark Inline image Unk #R (1) Inline image Unk #R (2) Inline image . __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

Jackster

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Posted 1303262278	Reply with quote #56

Not sure if it was covered in an earlier post, but where are/did you keep them, once they were bagged and bin'nd? outside, inside, what type of temperature? Nice job!

satellitehead

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Posted 1303314812	Reply with quote #57

After bagging, inside in bins, indirect sunlight, room temp (76ish). Once potted, in the bins with lid cracked for 2 days, then lid off for a week, and that is about where I am now. I had to switch it up. Out of town last two days, leaving again for 5 more. I lost two bagged cuttings while out two days, hope I don't come home to a disaster this weekend. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1303697508	Reply with quote #58

I returned from a 2-day trip to Florida immediately followed by another 5-day trip to Florida and just looked over things after 7 days away. I left my bins 90% closed during the trips to help prevent moisture escape. Two 1-gal transplants lost all leaves due to leaf drop, I am not convinced they are dead though. I trashed five cuttings (this includes the two previously mentioned) that were desiccated or on the verge of root death: 1 x Black Mission 1 x Hardy Chicago 1 x Dotatto 2 x unkown from Bari, Italy Tally: Started with 66. 21 repotted. 5 trashed. 40 still rooting. I have backups of each that are doing well, so I am not overly worried, just wanting to accurately report my losses (for future reference... this thread is my notepad "scoreboard" for now). I have been invaded by our enemy, fungus gnats! It's not great but it's not overwhelming yet either. One bin with cuttings is worse than the other. Big surprise for this week was two Grantham Royal cuttings that put on some nice big spaghetti roots in the last seven days! I thought they were going to fizzle, similar to how my UCD St Jean, Monstueuse and Calvert cuttings at looking. I would take pics, but went swimming with my BlackBerry this weekend.... maybe tomorrow if I get a new smartphone? __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

Figluvah

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Posted 1303729053	Reply with quote #59

HAHA....Smartphone? I like that one//////HEHE __________________ Cecil (Z 8b?) in the sticks of E.Tx (Elkhart/Palestine TX)

satellitehead

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Posted 1303731713	Reply with quote #60

When you do extremely dumb s&$@! like me, you require a phone with some smarts. Lord knows something or someone needs to think for me sometimes! ;) __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

Chivas

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Posted 1303749628	Reply with quote #61

Has anyone else had a lot of FMV on their UCD cuttings this year? This is the only year I have ordered from them and I notice a lot have heavy infections, the worst are DiRedo, UCR 291, White Genoa, VdB, and surprisingly the Black Maderia has very little if any. __________________ Canada Zone 6B

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Posted 1303753766	Reply with quote #62

My UCD Black Ischia is heavily, heavily afflicted by FMV. It seems like I can't get half of my UCD cuttings to do much this year, to be honest. The only UCD cuttings I have which are kicking ass is my Black Ischia and Hative de Argentile. The HdA was pretty explosive with roots, way more than last year's batch. BI was explosive on one, and two weeks later, the other is catching up. Both the HdA and BI from UCD are showing the early young-start traits of FMV. I had the same experience with last years' cuttings also, but they're putting on a might fine bit of growth this year. So, I propose that maybe FMV is most noticeable in newly rooted cuttings, and affects the growth of varieties much less as they are more and more established. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1303782638	Reply with quote #63

UPDATE 4/25 (43 days after bagging cuttings with no roots, freshly cleaned) Here's a pictorial update of where I am right now in my rooting. I will be repotting the five cuttings shown below during the week or this weekend. TALLY: Started with 66 cuttings. 21 are transplanted. 40 are still rooting in baggies. 5 were thrown away (7.5% loss so far). 2 transplants are looking bad. 2 more bagged cuttings are a footstep away from the garbage can. Out of the 21 cuttings I've transferred to 1gal pots. 4 of them (1st pic below) have no leaves. Two have limp green stems (looks like bad news), two of them still have not broken bud yet (but they had great roots on transfer, I'm optimistic). As indicated in the last post, 5 bagged cuttings went to the trash this week after what I felt were signs indicative of failure. Pics are worth a thousand words, so ........ Here are my 21 transplants so far - most have been in 1gal pots for 2-3 weeks now Inline image Here are the remaining 40 cuttings. In the 2nd picture, inside the bottom-middle bin, the nearly leafless bucket contains five UCD cuttings St Jean and Calvert, which aren't doing so hot (one has a start, but none have roots). Inline image Inline image And here are the more promising cuttings that have leaped in the last week, in no particular order.... Barnisotte [RW] Inline image Brooklyn Dark Inline image Inline image Grantham Royal #1 Inline image Inline image Grantham Royal #2 Inline image Inline image Inline image Hardy Chicago (fingers crossed this year!!!) Inline image Inline image Hative de Argentile [UCD] Inline image Inline image __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

genecolin

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Posted 1303817933	Reply with quote #64

Jason those are looking real good. One question for you, do you find that you disturb the roots a lot when moving the cutting from the bags to the pots. The ones I rooted in the little bags did well but I didn't like handling the root that much. I have since gone back to rooting in paper towels and moving them to my inverted bottomless cup with potting mix which means when I move them up to 1 gallon pots the roots are not disturbed. I have not lost any after moving them since I've done this. "gene" __________________ From the bayou, "gene" zone 9 Houma, La.

satellitehead

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Posted 1303820557	Reply with quote #65

On average, it's about the same win/loss ratio for me. The problem I had with baggies and paper towels is something you've mentioned in another thread recently - the roots tend to stick to paper towels if you fail to see them starting, then you rip them off when transferring to cups. If I left fragments of paper towel, I risked mold on the roots. That was way more invasive for me than letting excess perlite fall away and carefully filling soil around the root mass. If you think about it, the method I'm using here is no more invasive than the baggie, maybe less - the cutting is still being transferred out of a bag into a pot when it has young roots. The major difference is, the roots are better developed with this method and there is no intermediate cup involved, we go straight to 1 gallon. It is perfectly fine if the perlite sticks to the roots, and perlite is sterile so it won't mold or rot the roots if left intact like paper towels. I have had zero issues with roots sticking to baggies using this method, for what it's worth. I should take video of the transfer to show how simple it is. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

Beyondista

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Posted 1303822191	Reply with quote #66

This has probably already been asked but where do you get those bags from? And what is the advantage of using bags over plant pots? __________________ BEYOND Vineyard - La Farge, Wisconsin z4b http://facebook.com/beyondvineyard Driftless Sacred Grove - West Lima, Wisconsin https://www.facebook.com/driftlessgrove ebay: sacredgroveorganics http://www.ebay.com/usr/sacredgroveorganics

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Posted 1303824648	Reply with quote #67

Quote: Originally Posted by Beyondista This has probably already been asked but where do you get those bags from? See Rooting in a bag, new style for info on the baggies, part# S-1331 @ Uline Quote: Originally Posted by Beyondista And what is the advantage of using bags over plant pots? With plant pots, you can't see what you're doing, you just sit around and guess whether roots are forming or not. By using a see-through container for initial rooting (either bags or cups), you can acutally track root growth and know the optimal time to transfer to a pot. See Principles of rooting (and look at the pictures) - you will see that a cutting doing nothing on top may be bursting with roots below. Likewise, it may be bursting with leaves up top and have zero roots below. I like one particular part from that last link, about halfway down the page: "The second important principle to remember is this: roots and leaves have no relationship to each other. If you take a dozen cuttings from the same tree and grow them in the same rooting media in the same pot-as close to identical nature and nurture as you can get-some cuttings will grow roots, some will grow leaves, and some will grow both. You cannot presume root development from observing leaf development. This is why I use clear cups; they allow me to actually see whether roots are developing." __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

go4broek

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Posted 1303825397	Reply with quote #68

All that spaghetti and no spaghetti sauce?! looking really good, Jason. Guess I won't have to send you one of my Hardy Chicagos now! __________________ Ruben Cibolo, TX/Zone 8b Wish List: Dalmatie, Italian 258, Martin's Unknown (not the Italian), CdD-N, NdC, Signora, Latarolla, Stella! Check out my online journal @ http://davesgarden.com/community/journals/vbc/go4broek/83546/

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Posted 1303959999	Reply with quote #69

I transplanted 6 cuttings today, many pictured above, then I ran out of potting mix :) 1 x Barnisotte [RW] (it's the one w/no leaves) 1 x Unknown Meridian 1 x Italian Honey 1 x Angelo's Dark 2 x Hardy Chicago Tally: Started with 66. 27 repotted so far. 5 trashed. 34 still rooting. I transplanted the Barnisotte because the roots had tripled from the picture two posts up, I feel like no upper growth == less chance of transplant shock. Inline image __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1304301175	Reply with quote #70

I trashed four more cuttings today due to dessication and mold (visibly dessicated, see pic). 1 x Calvert (dessicated, rot & mold) 2 x Monstrueuse (dessicated & rot) 1 x Dottato (dessicated) After tearing these open, the Monstrueuse, which were rough from the getgo, the bark smeared right off, and was saturated with fungus gnat maggots. Great. TALLY: Started with 66 cuttings. 27 transplanted. 30 still rooting. 9 thrown away. (13.6% loss so far) Inline image __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1304821262	Reply with quote #71

Somehow, my numbers are screwed up in my tally. Anyway, I transferred 10 cuttings today because they had some root development and I'm afraid they're not going to go any further in baggies. I have 9 bagged cuttings remaining which aren't looking very promising (all the same varieties), which is unfortunate, I really wanted to have some luck with my Calvert from UCD. Based on numbers above, I transferred some without documenting. Right now I have 48 transferred, 9 cuttings discarded, 9 cuttings still rooting. I will be trashing at least 6-8 more repotted trees in the coming 2-3 weeks. The Atreano trees that looked so amazing earlier have taken a turn for the worse. I pinched both of them; one produced no sap. the other produced a considerable amount of sap. The one that didn't produce sap is probably dead already, the other may be on the way (we will see). Today I transferred: 1 x Italian Honey 2 x Tarantella 1 x Bailey UNK 1 x Ischia Black (UCD) 1 x Morley UNK 2 x Votata 1 x Bari UNK 1 x San Pietro Here are some pics - I had my first case of mild transplant shock on the two with large leaves (Morley UNK & Bari UNK). After sealing in a humid bin, the leaves are staying up, we will see what happens. Here are some pics, with titles at the top. I'm getting lazy and not shooting root evelopment, etc. Sorry about that. The ten baggies that got transferred today: Inline image After transfer, note transplant shock on two plants, the roots were hair thin. Inline image Blurry pic of my remaining 9 cuttings: Inline image __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1304823368	Reply with quote #72

PS - I think one of the tricks to using this method is to transplant when rooting is active, but not very far along. The trees that had the worst results after transplanting (death or leaf droop/drop) were the ones that had massive roots in the bottom of the bag or roots coming totally out of the baggies. Interesting, but I'm so far along, I can't test the theory at this point. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1304834984	Reply with quote #73

I noticed the same thing, if there are lot's of roots expanding it is best pot up before they branch. If there are not many roots I have been letting them sit in the baggies much longer to harden their roots before potting up. Fat roots seem to create a channel, by pushing the plastic out, that other roots end up growing into as well, then they choke each other somehow. I also have been withholding water after potting up and using moistened mix, been working great, thanks for the tip. __________________ 7a, DE

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Posted 1304964373	Reply with quote #74

I guess this could be an argument for using much bigger chunky perlite so there are larger spaces for the roots to grow through, this way they don't need to shove up against the wall of the bag. I have noticed also that there are ridges created by fat roots pushing against the bag, and how all of the other roots seem to use the channels that makes. When they all bunch together down the same channel, the cuttings seem to have a greater chance of failure - I believe I have lost BOTH Atreano cuttings pictured very early on in this thread due to that. One is looking like it will be dead by end of week, the other one with the 8" shoot started going limp till I pinched the leaves off, then cut the shoot down to about 3"...everything firmed up again after pinching back to bare shoot, but I have yet to see if it will generate another shoot. Which brings me to another observation. I have tried this pinching strategy with a couple of failing cutting when leaves and shoots are present, and it's worked in two cases (Atreano test is #3). It seems pinching may be a way to combat drooping death (from transplant shock/root damage on transplant), assuming the drooping is not caused by rot. We will see if the Atreano survives, if I go 3/3 on the trial, that's good enough for me to suggest it's a strong possibility that pinching has other purposes when cultivating cuttings as we all do. With that said ! I had to move all of my plants today and put them in grow racks in the basement until I can build some shade on the south side of my house to acclimate them to the outdoors. We're starting to hit temps up in the 90s this week. Below are pictures of 5 trees I believe I'm about to lose: A local Black Mission (don't care about it), Black Yugoslavian (have one more potential "good" backup), one of my Unknown R#, UCD Col de Dame (have a spare and another 1gal tree), and a Sal Corleone (have another potential "good" backup). Also pictured are my 42 trees that are doing well (at least 40 of them are ... about 15 haven't leafed out yet, and some were pinched today) And a picture of the Hardy Chicago log I got from a fig friend which seems to be kicking ass. Inline image Inline image Inline image __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

hoosierbanana

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Posted 1304988117	Reply with quote #75

I tried using coarse perlite with very mixed results. It seems the cutting cannot absorb as much water due to the decreased contact with the perlite. But the ones that did root right away produced tight rootballs. The ones that didn't got pulled out of the bags because they were dessicating. I think a good mix of the two is promising, just coarse perlite would need much more water and I think that would lead to rot. I should also note that I have been using fine perlite, which looks a bit smaller than yours and has more of the channel effect visible. I had similar success with pinching. At first I tried just removing leaves, but the fresh stems continued to wilt and killed the cuttings. Pinching back till a point where the wood is starting to harden has worked a couple of times for me, I have even stripped all growth from a cutting and cut rot off from the bottom to save one. Although the new roots and growth are much less than they were the first time. __________________ 7a, DE

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Posted 1305513974	Reply with quote #76

I trashed five more cuttings today: 2 x St Jean (UCD) 1 x Calvert (UCD) 1 x Abebereira 1 x San Pietro Right now I have 14 cuttings discarded, 4 cuttings still rooting - 21% loss. 6% still rooting. I am going to put out several pots as "probably lost" this week. That should clear up the final tally. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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On Friday, I trashed: 2 x Tarantella 1 x Abebereira 2 x Grantham Royal 1 x San Pietro 1 x Bari (unknown) 1 x Brooklyn Dark Right now I have 22 cuttings discarded, 4 cuttings still rooting. That's 33% failed with 6% still rooting. I will probably trash another 8-10 cuttings this week. I have at least 25 plants that look extremely strong. I have a couple like my Barnisotte from UCD that are stuck in this limbo of terminal-bud-break that is pretty frustrating. It was doing really well... now it's just sitting there. In the past, the result was death. I take every cutting that fails and do a post-mortem just to check things out. Of the ones above, the cambium layer was mushy, which (for me) has been indicative of overwatering in the past. There were two of the eight which were dessicated, which (for me) is indicative of underwatering. Three of the eight had fungus gnat larvae all through the cambium layer, so I was happy to get rid of them (could be possible the FGs killed my stick?). It seems that this new baggie method needs a good way to get the water levels perfect, but I gotta say - I *love* how easy it is, even if I pull off 50% success at the end of the day, it's so easy to pull off ("fire and forget") that I'd still be OK with it. I also have about 20 cuttings in the fridge that I still need to bag up, but house is for sale, so it's kinda tough to find space for them. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

rafed

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Posted 1306115008	Reply with quote #78

Well Jason, Looks like it's been a bad year for cuttings that's for sure. I tossed away many my own self so I can relate. Just got to work with what we have now and move on. There's always next year, that's for sure.

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Posted 1306115931	Reply with quote #79

Indeed. When it comes down to it, I think I will see approximately 50% success for the number of cuttings, and about 85% success for the varieties of cuttings. Last year, I really knocked it out of the park using the [bag->cup] method. I only took a hit that year because I spent 2 weeks away in Spain and Italy, nearly all of my losses came from that one trip. I had much better success. I can't complain this year. Successfully rooting 85% of the varieties is a good year in my book. (Gotta stay positive) I wish I had more time and attention to place to rooting. I think my results could have been better. Trying to find the time to work on it with an infant in the house has proven very tough for me. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

rafed

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Posted 1306116788	Reply with quote #80

Baby comes first

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Posted 1306156827	Reply with quote #81

Funny thing: Figs are the only thing that keeps my sanity with a 2 and 4 yr old. Aye ya aye! Looking forward to yard work is not something I expected. After having forced retirement, I look forward to work- Actually missing it! __________________ Dominick Zone 6a-MA

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Posted 1306160612	Reply with quote #82

There is definitely a soothing, calming effect to be had from it all. I had a blast tying up trees this weekend. (ok, now I sound like an arborial pervert!) I look forward to Saturdays, which usually ends up being my yardwork day. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1306181116	Reply with quote #83

Enjoy the time because it is fleeting, and that is a good thing! I am thankful for any time, be it several minutes out back to water or a few hours to cut the grass. The chronicles of the life of our 6 year old and and 8 year old always include birthday parties, games, sports, practices, lessons, trips, and general quality time. It also includes planting, seeding, watering, weeding, pruning, fertilizing, and harvesting but not in the large and regular chunks of time that I used to have when they were younger. When you have a good balance between the two (the kids and the figs) and your children show an appreciation, understanding, and respect for growing what they eat, join you, and take an active role in doing just that...THAT is a beautiful thing. I cherish those days and enjoy that time with them the most! __________________ jd \| tallahassee.fl \| zone 8b

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Posted 1306703582	Reply with quote #84

As of today, I have transplanted all of my 66 cuttings for the year. Between last weekend and this weekend, I trashed 15 of the cuttings and transplants that died and/or were rotting under the soil: 1 x Brooklyn Dark 2 x Bailey Unk 1 x Hative De Argentile 2 x Atreano 1 x Dottato 1 x Ischia blk 1 x Morley 1 x Sal Corleone 1 x Bl mission 1 x R# Unkown 1 x Black Yugoslavian 1 x Col de dame 1 x Angelo Dark Unknown At this point, I have discarded 37 cuttings so far this year. That's approximately a 56% failure rate. I don't think that number will change much, most everything else looks like it will pop and continue to go strong. While only ~44% success rate may sound bad, I managed to get nearly one successful rooting on each variety, including Ischia Black (assuming it continues to do well). As I reflect on this years rooting, I managed these numbers using some good wood and some bad wood. I had a lot of damage from Fungus Gnats that I didn't get in check fast enough. The new method I used was a hell of a lot easier, but with significantly lower success rates than I've experienced using the baggie-to-cup method. I feel like the losses were worth only having to do 5% of the actual work. I still have another batch of ~30 or so cuttings like Noire de Carombe, Dark Portuguese, Pastilliere, VdB and some others that need to be rooted this year, I'll probably start them soon if I can find the time. __________________ Jason Atlanta/Grant Park area - z8

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Posted 1327379955	Reply with quote #85

Hey Jason, I noticed in your pics of the cuttings that failed all or most had terminal buds. I've had very poor results with cuttings that had the terminal buds left on. Also, in one of your pot-up photo's I saw a droopy leafed fig that was mostly T bud growth. I'm sure you had many that made it with T buds intact but do you have any idea of your success rate T buds on V/S cut off? Michael P.S. great thread thanks!! __________________ North GA zone 7b

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