nelson,
thanks for the information. i'll wait and see what happens.
my paradiso gene started putting figs out on mid june, then they stayed at tiny embryo and didn't do anything. about week ago, it started putting it out again. the old ones are still not doing anything, but the new embryo is starting to form into figs.
my kathleen's black is not doing anything at all. it looks like it has embryo and going to put out fig, but it's been like that since mid june.
VdB is only thing that's doing something to look forward to.
pete